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King of the Jungle
Footballguy
What would be the upside for the person trading Herbert? A QB with equal output and an often injured receiver heading to a downgrade at QB? Hard to comprehend this one as you have minimal upside and nearly all the risk.ghostguy123 said:
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King of the Jungle
Footballguy
Decent exit, tough scenario for an owner. Been on the Luck quitting end so at least you got something for him at minimum.IHEARTFF said:
I made the offer to 4 teams that could use him at qb and 1 accepted it. Kinda surprised me.
I shopped Thomas for quite a while late last season and through this off-season. I really need help at RB but no one was willing to make a deal that would have given me a good young RB for Thomas. I might have been able to trade him straight up for a slightly earlier 2021 1st round pick, but the owner eventually decided he preferred the pick over Thomas. No one else who had an earlier pick was interested in trading it for Thomas. I debated about keeping Thomas but my team hasn't done all that well with him on it and I was worried that with his age and the QB situation in New Orleans that Thomas may have already hit peak value and I didn't want to risk seeing his value fall while my team continues to either just miss or barely make the playoffs.Spike said:
I still have Wilson at QB so losing Rodgers didn't matter much to me and I don't see much difference in value between Rodgers and Stafford.
barackdhouse
Footballguy
FFPC SF
I gave D Jones
I got 2.02
I gave D Jones
I got 2.02
barackdhouse
Footballguy
No. See what I said, and what you highlighted, was that I *had been hoping*, not that I *had* him there. Pretty big difference really. I also mentioned 3 or 4 times that Diggs is the true #1. I've been paying 3rds and 4ths for Davis. Speculative buys.
ghostguy123
Footballguy
FFPC
Tylan Wallace and Elijah Moore
For
Chase Edmonds
Tylan Wallace and Elijah Moore
For
Chase Edmonds
barackdhouse
Footballguy
barackdhouse
Footballguy
Zyphros
Footballguy
I'm assuming this was after a startup because otherwise there's no way to roster Wallce or Moore yet right? I like both of them as WR prospects. I like Edmonds enough that he might be serviceable especially in FFPC full PPR, I just don't see the ceiling with him. It's really easy to roster average'ish WR's in FFPC, but I feel their values will increase over time while Edmonds won't. Because of that I'd go with the WR's.
Edmonds is just the next fringe sized RB everyone wants to be a thing, like Duke Johnson. Sorry folks, he's a backup trying to be a workhorse, it won't happen.
Thomas is a guy that I see a disconnect in discussions vs in leagues. No one wants to be left holding the bag if last year was not an aberration unless they can get him at a decent discount. In one of my leagues his owner wanted the 1.05 + Pittman which is too much IMO.
Jonesin For Some Football
Footballguy
I don't think this is near enough for Kamara. I'm not an Ek fan though really. I have Kamara and no way I make this trade but SF might make it more fair as more talent will be there at 1.5.
Jonesin For Some Football
Footballguy
You are a big believer in this draft. I think that could be a high price but if you are playoff team and it is bottom half then it isn't too bad. I'm not sure I make the move but I don't like the 22 class as much as this so I don't have a problem with it at all.
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
I'm a big believer in what I think are the top eight comprising a core of a team for the next five years.
Jonesin For Some Football
Footballguy
This could end up aging well for you but I'm not a fan. Better nail those picks. I'd say should have got at least 2 1st rounders with Stafford along with 15.
Jonesin For Some Football
Footballguy
I don't think your thinking is wrong at all but some will bust and with that many picks you are for sure to get some down with the up. I just don't like having that much skin in one draft. I think your thought process is solid just wouldn't be my choice with your existing picks. I agree with the top 8. I have 5 and 8 this year and looking forward to whoever I get there.
barackdhouse
Footballguy
FFPC SF not involved
Team A gave DJ Moore
Team B gave Diontae Johnson, Darnold
I think this is a free Darnold and then a small upgrade at WR as well. Well done.
Team A gave DJ Moore
Team B gave Diontae Johnson, Darnold
I think this is a free Darnold and then a small upgrade at WR as well. Well done.
Jonesin For Some Football
Footballguy
I am really down on Moore myself so I really like this personally. I like DJ more and Darnold is a good buy low right now.
I think the 4th is more realistic but thanks for reminder I still got Mike Davis on a roster and need to see what I can get. If I got the middle I'll be awfully happy.
hunter1
Footballguy
I wish, I kid you not I've already been rejected by 3 teams in that league since I typed that response to you a few minutes ago. At least they let me know quick.
hunter1
Footballguy
Wow. I rarely raise my hand (at least as far as fantasy football goes), but I guess I finally found a hill I'm willing to die on. Yes, it's Mike Davis-Falcons Hill (it's on most miltary maps) and the trenches are dug.
It's not crazy to think he could hang onto the job as at least the primary guy in a RBBC. They won't be signing a FA RB, they won't draft one at 4, they won't trade back to 8 and take Najee Harris as Casserly tried to put out in a mock so really unless one of the big 3 goes to them in round two I'm not sure any rookie RB is taking this job.
I got no room for him but think he would be a good buy for someone else. 2 of my 3 rejections had no comment, a third one said "I'm good with my RB's". He's got Montgomery, ROJO, Kerryon and Perine. How can you be good with that?
Also I was mainly asking for 2022 #2's. Figured I'd give myself some counter room but no one made one, so far.
barackdhouse
Footballguy
Success! And I stand corrected on his return. I shotgunned him to 8 teams in that league I thought might have some interest and got 5 pretty fast rejection and most of those I was asking for a 2022#2. But the old 6th guy strolled in accepted my offer, so:
Gave: Mike Davis
Got: 2.4
barackdhouse
Footballguy
So explain what made you do 2022 seconds for some owners and the 2.04 for the lucky new owner of Davis?
Jonesin For Some Football
Footballguy
Gottabesweet
Footballguy
Updated thread title. 2021.
12 team happenings in my league this week. PPR. 1 QB.
Fournette, Preston Williams, 4.11 for 2022 1st and 2022 2nd (projected early)
Preston Williams and 4.11 for Jamaal Williams.
Ryan Fitzpatrick for 5.6 and 6.6
12 team happenings in my league this week. PPR. 1 QB.
Fournette, Preston Williams, 4.11 for 2022 1st and 2022 2nd (projected early)
Preston Williams and 4.11 for Jamaal Williams.
Ryan Fitzpatrick for 5.6 and 6.6
A little spur of the moment so I did not put a ton of thought into it but my order of preference was early 2021 #2, projected early 2022#2, random 2022#2, known late 2021 #2. But I felt like it was just asking to much for 2.1 and 2.2 so long story as short as I can make it.
To teams holding 2.1 and 2.2 I asked for their 2022#2's, one rejected me and the other never got a chance and again I did not ask for their current picks as I thought it was a little aggressive of an ask. Both teams don't look nearly like contenders either so did not think they'd have a lot of excitement for Davis.
2.3 was earliest pick I asked for and I kicked in 4.12 on top of Davis, this got rejected.
Guy who owns 2.5 has been trying to pawn of spare part players on me for weeks so I left him out as he's trying to trim, not add.
Guy who owns 2.6 has never made a trade with me in 6 years even when I send him offers he has no business rejecting so I finally just quit trying.
2.7 rejected me.
I drew the line at 2.7 and from that point on if you did not have a lower pick then 2.7 I was asking for 2022 #2's.
BTW if anyone had countered giving me a third I'd have waited a few hours for my other trade offers to get a decision but I'd have ultimately accepted by probably no later then tomorrow.
hunter1
Footballguy
I think he's saying he was looking for a single second round pick in 2022. BTW, I just picked him up for a 3.7 in another FFPC league where I didn't even have a roster spot. I have 8 days to figure it out. Mike Davis is my 2022 cash cow. But I'm a heavy drinker, so who knows?
Jonesin For Some Football
Footballguy
Why would anyone consider trading a 1st and 2nd for Fournette who still doesn't have a job, Preston Williams coming off a torn Achilles (plus signed Fuller and will probably draft a WR, and basically a 5th round pick. This is a terrible trade.
Two thanks to you.
1. First for the bolded you are correct and I missed that in his earlier question, I was never asking for multiple 2022 #2's.
2. Appreciate you posting your Mike Davis trade in the first place. This almost makes up for me gifting you 2.6+ for Lev Bell in our league, almost.
hunter1
Footballguy
I do not remember that, but I'll take your word for it. Sun don't shine on the same dog's ### every day, but I get some right by sheer luck. Davis won't be luck. I can see the future. I'm pyschotic!
I knew it wasn't multiple 2022 seconds. It was just a plural description. You answered my question perfectly. I have some of that same thought process when I send out shotgun blast trade offers. It is just interesting to see the thought process of others.
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Gottabesweet
Footballguy
Assuming they think he’ll be back in TB and recency bias watching the playoff and Super Bowl Fournette, but I agree with your assessment.
JohnnyU
Footballguy
Person on the Founette side are the type of managers that quit and leaves the cupboard bare and you have to offer the first year free to the next manager.
Gottabesweet
Footballguy
Surprisingly he’s a long time owner and said it’s his favorite league recently. He rarely uses his picks as well. I don’t think he has any 2021 picks and moving 2022. It’s been like this for awhile. He’s a fringe playoff team which is where you don’t want to be in this league. That is unless you keep your picks and win the toilet bowl and end up with 1.1
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I pulled the trigger a little too quick, sent out a bunch of offers to send out Mike Davis and the owner of the 2.11 pick accepted right away. Should have been more methodical like you and might have snagged an earlier pick.
hunter1
Footballguy
I heard they're changing "NFL" to "MDL" (Mike Davis League). Could be just a rumor, though. I'll check it out and get back to you.
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barackdhouse
Footballguy
FFPC regular not involved:
Team A gave 1.10, Fuller
Team B gave Jacobs
Team A offered the same for my Carson/Edmonds but I haggled myself out of a chance to accept. I hate when that happens.
FFPC SF:
I gave 2022 1st, 2022 3rd
I got 2022 1st, 4.12
I love making a couple of these every now and then. I'm basically betting my team finishes better than his. For fun. Also I think his team is very thin for a good team and he has no draft capital. My team is loaded and *might* have a moderately better chance to finish ahead of his. If it backfires I will tip my cap and smile.
Team A gave 1.10, Fuller
Team B gave Jacobs
Team A offered the same for my Carson/Edmonds but I haggled myself out of a chance to accept. I hate when that happens.
FFPC SF:
I gave 2022 1st, 2022 3rd
I got 2022 1st, 4.12
I love making a couple of these every now and then. I'm basically betting my team finishes better than his. For fun. Also I think his team is very thin for a good team and he has no draft capital. My team is loaded and *might* have a moderately better chance to finish ahead of his. If it backfires I will tip my cap and smile.
Jonesin For Some Football
Footballguy
It is probably close to what you can get with how low people are on Jacobs but that just feels like a a terrible return. Think I'd rather let him see what he can do as I don't think Fuller does much in Miami when they draft a WR. The 2nd one is a decent trade. I like betting on my team like that too but not sure why you took basically a 5th rounder for a 3rd next year but if you have belief that you will upgrade your pick then it is probably worth it.
King of the Jungle
Footballguy
Being deep at rb can change overnight. Although Mixon’s value slid a little I would have wanted a little more. I like Aiyuk’s talent but with question marks at QB, a running oriented offense, and many targets too share with...I would have preferred a different target if giving up Mixon.
frae
Footballguy
I get that, it is a weird format to explain but I took it as an orphan and there are yearly prizes but the 4 year prize has big money and I wanted to keep acquiring assets to set me up for that run starting in 2022. As it was an orphan I can say Mixon is not a guy I am as high on as even the market after the slip. Though he could be a lead back still for 2-3 years.
