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****OFFICIAL DYNASTY TRADES**** (12 Viewers)
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FUBAR
Footballguy
Hawkeye Hellraiser
Footballguy
Which is why I said...
None of the scenarios you mentioned make it any less of a dumb move. A future second is a valuable commodity. A team defense is made for streaming in dynasty. Spending premium picks on top defenses is a waste of resources.
Hawkeye Hellraiser
Footballguy
jeaton6
Footballguy
Fitz and Barnidge for those picks? Come on I can't move Fitz for a one and Barnidge no better then a 3 right now.
Traded Olsen for 1.9 is pretty good value
Don't do IDP so no comment.
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JohnnyU
Footballguy
oldmanhawkins
Footballguy
On the clock I traded 1.10 and a 2017 3rd for jay ajayi. Not sure what I'm doing yet but at least his name is fun to say.
smbkrypt24
Footballguy
12 team PPR. Start 1QB, 1-3 RB, 1-3 WR, 1TE
Team A gave Woodhead
Team B gave 2017 2nd (i would guess mid pick, not a great team not a bottom team)
Team A most likely is not contending this year.
Team B has a decent team as stated above, but nothing special.
Team A gave Woodhead
Team B gave 2017 2nd (i would guess mid pick, not a great team not a bottom team)
Team A most likely is not contending this year.
Team B has a decent team as stated above, but nothing special.
Zyphros
Footballguy
The commanding price Zeke has been fetching I'm kind of surprised the picks aren't on the other side. This I like for both teams and is more reasonable.
FUBAR
Footballguy
opensourcebeer
Footballguy
12 team, ppr, start qrrwwtfkd, 20 man roster + 10 man taxi, bestball scoring
Team A (rebuilding) gives: Forte, Jordy
Team B (competing) gives: 17 first, 17 second
Team A (rebuilding) gives: Brady, Team B's 17 second
Team C (competing, but with only Eli and Fitz at QB) gives: Duke Johnson
Team A (rebuilding) gives: Forte, Jordy
Team B (competing) gives: 17 first, 17 second
Team A (rebuilding) gives: Brady, Team B's 17 second
Team C (competing, but with only Eli and Fitz at QB) gives: Duke Johnson
FUBAR
Footballguy
Dan Hindery
Moderator
Big one to kick off our rookie draft today. No wonder my offer for 1.01 was turned down.
14-team PPR (1/2/3/1/, 3 flex)
1.01, Josh Gordon
for
Sammy Watkins, Donte Moncrief
14-team PPR (1/2/3/1/, 3 flex)
1.01, Josh Gordon
for
Sammy Watkins, Donte Moncrief
Interesting.
We got a highly regarded but unproven rookie and a high upside player who actually has had a better fantasy season than anyone in this deal but he may play this year or never for a player who had foot surgery and another who had the rare turf toe surgery. So many ways this trade could end up going for the teams involved.
It's close to me but if I have to start 3 WR's I'm taking Watkins/Moncrief.
superbigpimping420
Footballguy
I get that he is rebuilding, but moving Brady, Forte, and Jordy to net a 2017 1st and Duke Johnson seems like a pretty small return.
I would like to think that the in season price he could have got for just Jordy would be more than that.
Dan Hindery
Moderator
It's a really fun/interesting trade because all 4 guys have such huge upside but all have some fairly big questions in terms of how likely they are to reach that upside. Personally, I think I like Zeke a little bit more than Watkins (though it's very close) due to Watkins' growing list of injuries. But in this format, I like Moncrief over Gordon by a good amount because it's 14 teams and we're all starting 9 total RB/WR/TE each week. Even worst case Moncrief is a solid WR3-4 who you feel good about starting every week. Who knows what you get from Gordon. So I'd lean towards the side getting Watkins personally.
I think I agree with everything you just said.
I also prefer Elliot over Watkins but it's the Moncrief over Gordon aspect as well as need to start 3 WR's that pushes me to that side but I like Elliot over Watkins enough that if this was 2RB2WR start league I'd probably prefer EE/Gordon.
ConnSKINS26
Footballguy
14 team devy (1 round) PPR. Start 2-4 RB, 3-5 WR. Tons of 2017 guys rostered of course.
Gave:
Stefon Diggs, Hunter Henry, Wendell Smallwood, TRich
Got:
T.J. Yeldon, mid-late 2017 1st, Paul Richardson
Gave:
Stefon Diggs, Hunter Henry, Wendell Smallwood, TRich
Got:
T.J. Yeldon, mid-late 2017 1st, Paul Richardson
ConnSKINS26
Footballguy
Would need to see the roster on this one. Seems like an easy call for Lacy but if that pick is one of the top RB's next year...
jeaton6
Footballguy
As hyped as the 2017 1's are right now this seems ridiculously cheap for the players. Lacy should be able to pull a future 1. The rest seems free. Unless as suggested the 2017 1 is a lock for top 2 next year.
Skeletore Eh
Footballguy
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One More Rep
Footballguy
DropKick
Footballguy
Why? Floyd has teased but maybe we've seen his ceiling. He is also a few years older. Might even be the 3rd option on his own team.
Lockett showed nothing but promise. I can see a preference for either guy but "not close"?
mikel2014
Footballguy
Right. Floyd has the higher ceiling but a lot more risk involved. He's 26 and if he doesn't break out this year his value will start to decline rapidly. It's also a contract year, so who knows how Arizona will let that play out. Also, there's been the talk of "life after Larry" forever, but what about life after Carson Palmer?
As the one getting Floyd, my main motivation is to help compete for this year. He's my 5th WR where we can start 5 and I absolutely love his floor and ceiling for that spot. Long term: toss up, too many variables. Win now: Floyd
bostonfred
Footballguy
Nothing but promise is a good term for it. A third round NFL draft pick. 51 catches for 664 yards and 6 touchdowns last year. Nothing. But, promise. Nothing but promise.DropKick said:
opensourcebeer
Footballguy
I'm the rebuilding team (took over an orphan) in this trade and I agree with you. Here's my thinking (either right or wrong):
1. I don't mind losing some value on the first several trades in a league where I don't have any existing relationships with the other owners. My goal is to start building good future trade relationships and show the other owners that I'm willing to make deals that help both teams rather than trying to nickel and dime them to death trying to extract the last drop of value from my players. I've seen too many owners take over orphan teams and not be able to sell their vets for any value because they were unwilling to take even a small hit in trade value. In my mind, that's silly.
2, Brady, Jordy, and Forte could certainly have move value in-season. If I carry them into the season, I assume all the risk, i.e. them not getting injured/replaced in training camp, preseason, or in the first couple of weeks of the season. For me, it's not worth the risk.
3. In this particular league, one owner had managed to amass six 2016 first round picks. I think this made a fair number of owners unwilling to even discuss trading 2017 firsts. Obviously its a situation specific to this league, but it also underlines that player/draft pick value can vary significantly from league to league.
Gianluca
Footballguy
12 Team PPR
i just traded Jeremy Hill, Buck Allen and the 5th pick this year for Kirk Cousins, LA D, 2017 1st and 2nd Rd picks from arguably the worst team in paper in the league.
By doing that it gave me 3 1st round picks in 2017 and a 2nd. I also own the 2nd overall pick and 18th in this years rookie/FA draft. Left me with David Johnson/Demarco Murray/Gio Bernard/Ameer Abdullah at RB which I'll fix with next yr with the 3 firsts.
i just traded Jeremy Hill, Buck Allen and the 5th pick this year for Kirk Cousins, LA D, 2017 1st and 2nd Rd picks from arguably the worst team in paper in the league.
By doing that it gave me 3 1st round picks in 2017 and a 2nd. I also own the 2nd overall pick and 18th in this years rookie/FA draft. Left me with David Johnson/Demarco Murray/Gio Bernard/Ameer Abdullah at RB which I'll fix with next yr with the 3 firsts.
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This is how I'd see it, for sure don't think it merited the dreaded "not close" label.DropKick said:
Floyd has averaged 96 targets and 163 fantasy points a year and he's 3 years older.
Lockett put up 155 fantasy point on 69 targets and a few runs.
So Lockett is 3 years younger and a player who in his rookie season scored 8 fantasy points less than Floyd has averaged in his career and did so on 27 targets less than Floyd has averaged and even as a rookie outdid Floyd on a fantasy points per target basis.
Have no idea how this is perceived as not close.
jeaton6
Footballguy
Aunt Jemima
Footballguy
ok I'll post this one, although I know most are going to hate my side. I have too much Arob so wanted to trade him in this one. Woodhead was my rb 4 for this year pre trade ( but my 2 and 3 are expiring Forte and Murray). I also have Lamar Miller. I'm the defending champ and one of the better teams on paper. This is FFPC
I gave Arob, Woodhead, 2017 5th
I got Gurely, Mason, 2017 4th
I gave Arob, Woodhead, 2017 5th
I got Gurely, Mason, 2017 4th
Gianluca
Footballguy
With my luck ya never know lol.Could be the worst team and worst owner making that deal
mikel2014
Footballguy
I think the whole "it's not close" thing is a bit silly. Clearly people are debating about it so it is close in public perception. Twitter poll had it about 60/40 Floyd.
Milkman
Footballguy
Yeah I've never been a Floyd fan and I'm a bigger Lockett fan than most. I'd do a dance if I was able to make that trade and I was getting Lockett.
Evil G
Footballguy
I'll bump (once) in the hopes of some feedback. Draft is tomorrow - I had zero picks in the Draft until this trade
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jeaton6
Footballguy
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Hawkeye Hellraiser
Footballguy
John,
I would prefer ARob here, as I am not a believer that the LA offense will open up enough for Gurley to reach his ceiling, but I think there's fair value both ways. As long as you can get value, I think you accomplished your goal.
