Raback Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 12 hours ago, SieteCinco said: 12 Team Tiered PPR (TE=1.5, WR=1.0, RB=0.5) SuperFlex Team A (Rebuilding): Joe Mixon, Mitchell Trubisky, Devante Parker Team B (Building): David Johnson Im about to take Mixon 1.1 in a PPR league so I am very high on him but I would take the Johnson side easily Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILUVBEER99 Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 30 minutes ago, Raback said: Im about to take Mixon 1.1 in a PPR league so I am very high on him but I would take the Johnson side easily In a super flex any potential stud QB is worth a ton, so it's not too awful. Agree the DJ side wins, but if Trubisky pans out could easily see the deal working out for the Mixon side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raback Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 2 minutes ago, ILUVBEER99 said: In a super flex any potential stud QB is worth a ton, so it's not too awful. Agree the DJ side wins, but if Trubisky pans out could easily see the deal working out for the Mixon side. True, but I see very little chance Trubisky ends up as a stud QB. I think he'll be serviceable at best. If it was Mahomes instead I would like it a lot more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghostguy123 Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 8 minutes ago, ILUVBEER99 said: In a super flex any potential stud QB is worth a ton, so it's not too awful. Agree the DJ side wins, but if Trubisky pans out could easily see the deal working out for the Mixon side. This deal will certainly pan out for the other side...............in like 3-4 years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Hindery Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 12 team PPR, Superflex Gave: Brandin Cooks for: Keenan Allen, 2018 2nd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One More Rep Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 33 minutes ago, Dan Hindery said: 12 team PPR, Superflex Gave: Brandin Cooks for: Keenan Allen, 2018 2nd I like both players, would call it even Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SieteCinco Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, Raback said: True, but I see very little chance Trubisky ends up as a stud QB. I think he'll be serviceable at best. If it was Mahomes instead I would like it a lot more. Bit more context: •12 Team tiered PPR where RBs only get 0.5 PPR (WRs get 1, TEs get 1.5) •Start 1RB, but can flex up to four more, so RBs hardly ever fetch anything on the market in this league. I think the pendulum has probably swung too far in the WR direction, but that's how this market is (one owner even told me he had Fournette/Dalvin/Mixon at 9/10/11 on his rookie board, even though I find that difficult to believe. •Other team is rebuilding, but didn't have much of anything to sell off - Winston, Tannehill, DJ, Perine, Christian Kirk, Paul a Richardson, Kupp, Evan Engram. I doubt he moves Winston in a SuperFlex where QBs get 5 points per passing TDs, and 9/12 of the other owners usually get one RB and then ignore the position/flex 4 WRs instead. He had asked about Trubisky multiple times since the draft, so I'm assuming he's high on him. QBs are difficult to get (last year alone Kaep went for a 1st when he got hot, Osweiller a 1+2, and McCown/Fitz type stop gaps are always flipped for 2s) Edited May 20, 2017 by SieteCinco Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danish Bengal Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 3 hours ago, Dan Hindery said: 12 team PPR, Superflex Gave: Brandin Cooks for: Keenan Allen, 2018 2nd Cooks by a lot 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nero Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 Gave: Corey Coleman Received: Mike Williams and Tyler Boyd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One More Rep Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 2 hours ago, Nero said: Gave: Corey Coleman Received: Mike Williams and Tyler Boyd I will take Coleman but close 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GECKO Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 6 hours ago, Nero said: Gave: Corey Coleman Received: Mike Williams and Tyler Boyd Williams and Boyd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletore Eh Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 7 hours ago, Nero said: Gave: Corey Coleman Received: Mike Williams and Tyler Boyd As a Coleman owner, I'd take Williams straight up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msudaisy26 Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 35 minutes ago, Skeletore Eh said: As a Coleman owner, I'd take Williams straight up Why are you so down on Coleman or are you that high on Williams? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kutta Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 (edited) 12 team PPR. Not involved. Tyrell Williams for Delanie Walker Edit: trade was relayed me incorrectly initially as Inman for Walker. Edited May 20, 2017 by kutta Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletore Eh Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 22 minutes ago, msudaisy26 said: Why are you so down on Coleman or are you that high on Williams? To be honest I like both. I like Coleman as a player, and his may be a bit of a cop out, but I would take the opportunity to trade a Cleveland brown for another young player I like in a situation I much prefer. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawg Pound 69 Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 29 minutes ago, kutta said: 12 team PPR. Not involved. Inman for Delanie Walker I know Walker only has a few more years of elite production yet. But Inman is Chargers WR5, so this is an odd trade. And will be hard to move up the depth chart, as he just had surgery so will be out for 6 weeks. He is on waiver wire in pretty much all of my leagues. Unless the owner really believes in his talent, and is banking on him signing elsewhere in free agency next year and becoming a starter ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletore Eh Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 6 minutes ago, Dawg Pound 69 said: Unless the owner really believes in his talent, and is banking on him signing elsewhere in free agency next year and becoming a starter ? Even if that is the case it's a terrible trade Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dez Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 16 team 1.5 TE PPR Traded picks 10 and 18 for pick 8 while 8 was OTC took Dalvin Cook. High price to pay but Cook fell that far because one team took 3 straight TE's at 5,6 and 7. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msudaisy26 Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 2 hours ago, Skeletore Eh said: To be honest I like both. I like Coleman as a player, and his may be a bit of a cop out, but I would take the opportunity to trade a Cleveland brown for another young player I like in a situation I much prefer. I like Coleman better and actually tried to get him for Williams in one of my leagues, but didn't work out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghostguy123 Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 1 minute ago, Dez said: 16 team 1.5 TE PPR Traded picks 10 and 18 for pick 8 while 8 was OTC took Dalvin Cook. High price to pay but Cook fell that far because one team took 3 straight TE's at 5,6 and 7. High price to pay?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msudaisy26 Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 1 minute ago, Dez said: 16 team 1.5 TE PPR Traded picks 10 and 18 for pick 8 while 8 was OTC took Dalvin Cook. High price to pay but Cook fell that far because one team took 3 straight TE's at 5,6 and 7. The drop off after Cook and those 3 tight ends being gone is big at 1.10, I actually think the owner of 1.8 could have gotten a lot more from another owner or you if he held out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kutta Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 2 hours ago, Dawg Pound 69 said: I know Walker only has a few more years of elite production yet. But Inman is Chargers WR5, so this is an odd trade. And will be hard to move up the depth chart, as he just had surgery so will be out for 6 weeks. He is on waiver wire in pretty much all of my leagues. Unless the owner really believes in his talent, and is banking on him signing elsewhere in free agency next year and becoming a starter ? The trade was relayed incorrectly to me. It was actually Tyrell Williams for Walker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kutta Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 12 team PPR. Not involved. 1.05, 3.05, 4.05 for 1.04. He took Mixon with 1.04. Cook and CM were also both available. Fournette, Davis, and Williams were the first three picks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhythmdoctor Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 41 minutes ago, Dez said: 16 team 1.5 TE PPR Traded picks 10 and 18 for pick 8 while 8 was OTC took Dalvin Cook. High price to pay but Cook fell that far because one team took 3 straight TE's at 5,6 and 7. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletore Eh Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 2 minutes ago, Rhythmdoctor said: In 1.5 ppr for te, not crazy 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhythmdoctor Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 Just now, Skeletore Eh said: In 1.5 ppr for te, not crazy Exactly. And you can start up to 3 TEs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-OZ- Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 11 minutes ago, Rhythmdoctor said: Exactly. And you can start up to 3 TEs In these leagues taking the big 3 TE in the top 7 makes sense imo. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tool Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 1 hour ago, Dez said: 16 team 1.5 TE PPR Traded picks 10 and 18 for pick 8 while 8 was OTC took Dalvin Cook. High price to pay but Cook fell that far because one team took 3 straight TE's at 5,6 and 7. Is Belichek in your league? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dez Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 16 team IDP 1.5 TE PPR Traded picks 15 and 17 for picks 7 and 55 while 7 was OTC took Njoku. High price to pay for a TE. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zyphros Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 I think everyone is confused as to what "High price to pay" means 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msudaisy26 Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 19 minutes ago, Tool said: Is Belichek in your league? To be fair it is 1.5 PPR for tight ends, and if you can start all 3 that could be a nice advantage if they all turn out. I would have taken 2 TE's and Cook 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhythmdoctor Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 6 minutes ago, msudaisy26 said: To be fair it is 1.5 PPR for tight ends, and if you can start all 3 that could be a nice advantage if they all turn out. I would have taken 2 TE's and Cook I still have the 1.11 & 1.12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msudaisy26 Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 3 minutes ago, Rhythmdoctor said: I still have the 1.11 & 1.12 So you took the 3 tight ends in a row? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snorkelson Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 3 minutes ago, msudaisy26 said: So you took the 3 tight ends in a row? He did, judging by the sheepish whistle emoji. Even if one works out it could be worth it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msudaisy26 Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Rhythmdoctor said: I still have the 1.11 & 1.12 I am just curious, did you consider trading one of those picks or do you lack the roster space? Sounds like you could have dropped back and still got all 3 tight ends. Edited May 20, 2017 by msudaisy26 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghostguy123 Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 (edited) 19 minutes ago, msudaisy26 said: I am just curious, did you consider trading one of those picks or do you lack the roster space? Sounds like you could have dropped back and still got all 3 tight ends. Who knows. The FFPC drafts are all different. Edit...i guess that wasnt FFPC but the 1.5 ppr for TE is rather significant. Edited May 20, 2017 by ghostguy123 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dez Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 (edited) 20 minutes ago, msudaisy26 said: I am just curious, did you consider trading one of those picks or do you lack the roster space? Sounds like you could have dropped back and still got all 3 tight ends. He couldn't have. The TE's were all going to go in the top 8 or 9 picks. At best he could have traded back to 8 from 5 if the guy at 8 was wanting to move up for Cook. That been the only way really. Edited May 20, 2017 by Dez Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msudaisy26 Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 I just wanted to know his process here, I am not trying to belittle it at all. It is something you don't see everyday and I was curious to his thought process. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhythmdoctor Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 (edited) 11 minutes ago, msudaisy26 said: I just wanted to know his process here, I am not trying to belittle it at all. It is something you don't see everyday and I was curious to his thought process. I started the draft with: 1.05, 1.07, 1.11 & 1.12 - My main target and favorite player in the draft is CMC. I made a few attempts to trade my 1.05 and other variations to the owner who took CMC at 1.03 but nothing worked. I was already planning on getting 2 of the 3 big TEs with my 1.05 and 1.07 but once I knew I couldn't get CMC, I knew I had to get all 3 TEs. Problem is, I have not been able to solidify the order of those 3 and my fear is that I'd miss the 'best' TE, so I really was set on getting the big 3 TEs. Then, the 1.06 owner posted that the pick was available so I worked out the below trade with him that he accepted: Diggs, 3.16, 2018 2nd rounder for the 1.06. Some think I may have paid too much but I have OBJ and ARob and also Tyreek Hill on my taxi squad, so I think it was worth selling Diggs for - he would have been a spot starter and he's a guy who will put up 4-6 very good games per year. Plus, although I do like Diggs, I don't like that offense. Finally, I just selected Zay Jones and JuJu with the 1.11 and 1.12. I feel really good about my draft. Edited May 20, 2017 by Rhythmdoctor 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msudaisy26 Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 1 minute ago, Rhythmdoctor said: I started the draft with: 1.05, 1.07, 1.11 & 1.12 - My main target and favorite player in the draft is CMC. I made a few attempts to trade my 1.05 and other variations to the owner who took CMC at 1.03 but nothing worked. was already planning on getting 2 of the 3 with my 1.05 and 1.07 but once I knew I couldn't get CMC, I knew I had to get all 3 TEs. Problem is, I have not been able to solidify the order of those 3 and my fear is that I'd miss the 'best' TE, so I really was set on getting the big 3 TEs. Then, the 1.06 owner posted that the pick was available so I worked out the below trade with him that he accepted: Diggs, 3.16, 2018 2nd rounder for the 1.06. Some think I may have paid too much but I have OBJ and ARob and also Tyreek Hill on my taxi squad, so I think it was worth selling Diggs for - he would have been a spot starter and he's a guy who will put up 4-6 very good games per year. Plus, although I do like Diggs, I don't like that offense. Finally, I just selected Zay Jones and JuJu with the 1.11 and 1.12. I feel really good about my draft. Thanks for sharing, I have shares in all those guys except for Howard so I hope it works out for you. Well expect for Howard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhythmdoctor Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 Just now, msudaisy26 said: Thanks for sharing, I have shares in all those guys except for Howard so I hope it works out for you. Well expect for Howard I personally like Njoku best then a tie between Howard and Engram. But I drafted Howard first. Can't wait to see how these guys pan out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buck naked Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 2 hours ago, ghostguy123 said: High price to pay?? Considering that is the second time Dez/Henry has said that about one of his trades, when it clearly is not a high price, shows he really has no idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dez Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 6 minutes ago, buck naked said: Considering that is the second time Dez/Henry has said that about one of his trades, when it clearly is not a high price, shows he really has no idea. You never know when you are giving up the next David Johnson the next Jordan Howard when you give up a 2nd round pick to just move up a few spots in the 1st round. In 2015 I tried hard to move up to pick 4 in my one rookie draft I offered 14,15 and 20 and was turned down the counter was for my 10,14 and 15. I turned it down luckily as Abdullah went to him at 4 who I would have also taken but at 15 I got David Johnson. So which was better having the 1 "stud" pick that everyone said was a go get guy in the top 6 that year or settle for 3 so so guys at 10,14 and 15 ? One of them so so guys was David Johnson and while my other 2 picks look like busts in Perriman and Funchess having 3 bullets over 1 was huge in this situation. Last year how are those 2,3,4,5 picks working out ? Michael Thomas went 10 in two of my leagues last year and Howard was a 2nd rounder in one and fell all the way to the 3rd round in another. Much better than Treadwell who went top 4 in nearly every draft last year or even the other guys who still might show up this year in Doctson and others. Just saying you never know everyone always wants the projected stud but sometimes the shark play is to have multiple lower picks. To each their own which is why trades are made. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jadensdad Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 Two trades today ppr superflex otc deals ebron and 1.5 (cook) for 1.4 (mixon) and Ginn zeke, 4.2, and 18 4th for 1.7 (otc) took oj Howard, Lamar miller, Randal Cobb, 2.6 and 18 3rd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buck naked Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 1 hour ago, Rhythmdoctor said: You weren't the only one facing the decision of what to do with drafting multiple TEs. I had picks 5, 7, 8, 9, 11 in an FFPC 2500 draft this year. I thought long and hard about taking all 3 of them for months. I needed to rebuild this team, but at that price point it is harder to be very patient and watch 3 TEs take time to develop. I ended up taking Howard at 5, trading up for Dalvin at 6, and Njoku at 8 and M. Williams at 9. I still could have taken Engram at 11, but needed an RB so I went with Hunt. It is definitely a ballsy strategy to take all 3, so I applaud you taking the risk and going for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buck naked Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 (edited) 41 minutes ago, Dez said: You never know when you are giving up the next David Johnson the next Jordan Howard when you give up a 2nd round pick to just move up a few spots in the 1st round. In 2015 I tried hard to move up to pick 4 in my one rookie draft I offered 14,15 and 20 and was turned down the counter was for my 10,14 and 15. I turned it down luckily as Abdullah went to him at 4 who I would have also taken but at 15 I got David Johnson. So which was better having the 1 "stud" pick that everyone said was a go get guy in the top 6 that year or settle for 3 so so guys at 10,14 and 15 ? One of them so so guys was David Johnson and while my other 2 picks look like busts in Perriman and Funchess having 3 bullets over 1 was huge in this situation. Last year how are those 2,3,4,5 picks working out ? Michael Thomas went 10 in two of my leagues last year and Howard was a 2nd rounder in one and fell all the way to the 3rd round in another. Much better than Treadwell who went top 4 in nearly every draft last year or even the other guys who still might show up this year in Doctson and others. Just saying you never know everyone always wants the projected stud but sometimes the shark play is to have multiple lower picks. To each their own which is why trades are made. You just changed the focus with that response. The point isn't who you COULD draft and whether you drafted the right player. Your point and my response was to the point of whether what you gave up was a "high price to pay". Ghostguy and I both recognize how little you are giving up to move up. Edited May 20, 2017 by buck naked 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northern exposure Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 48 minutes ago, Rhythmdoctor said: I started the draft with: 1.05, 1.07, 1.11 & 1.12 - My main target and favorite player in the draft is CMC. I made a few attempts to trade my 1.05 and other variations to the owner who took CMC at 1.03 but nothing worked. I was already planning on getting 2 of the 3 big TEs with my 1.05 and 1.07 but once I knew I couldn't get CMC, I knew I had to get all 3 TEs. Problem is, I have not been able to solidify the order of those 3 and my fear is that I'd miss the 'best' TE, so I really was set on getting the big 3 TEs. Then, the 1.06 owner posted that the pick was available so I worked out the below trade with him that he accepted: Diggs, 3.16, 2018 2nd rounder for the 1.06. Some think I may have paid too much but I have OBJ and ARob and also Tyreek Hill on my taxi squad, so I think it was worth selling Diggs for - he would have been a spot starter and he's a guy who will put up 4-6 very good games per year. Plus, although I do like Diggs, I don't like that offense. Finally, I just selected Zay Jones and JuJu with the 1.11 and 1.12. I feel really good about my draft. So, if CMc went 1.03 and Cook went 1.08. I'm curious who went at 1.01, 1.02, 1.04, 1.09 and 1.10? I assume in some order it was Fournette, Mixon, Davis, Williams and then maybe Ross, Kamara, Perrine. But, I'd like to see the exact draft order out of curiousity. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhythmdoctor Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 2 minutes ago, northern exposure said: So, if CMc went 1.03 and Cook went 1.08. I'm curious who went at 1.01, 1.02, 1.04, 1.09 and 1.10? I assume in some order it was Fournette, Mixon, Davis, Williams and then maybe Ross, Kamara, Perrine. But, I'd like to see the exact draft order out of curiousity. Thanks. 1 - Fournette 2 - Davis 4 - Mixon 8 - Cook 9 - Williams 10 - Ross Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northern exposure Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 6 minutes ago, Rhythmdoctor said: 1 - Fournette 2 - Davis 4 - Mixon 8 - Cook 9 - Williams 10 - Ross Williams with the 1.09 pick would be sweet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeaton6 Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 12 Team PPR Gave: 1.9/2.6/3.6/Ertz Got: 1.3 which I turned into Davis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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