****OFFICIAL DYNASTY TRADES****

[Raback]

12 hours ago, SieteCinco said:

12 Team Tiered PPR (TE=1.5, WR=1.0, RB=0.5)  SuperFlex 

Team A (Rebuilding): Joe Mixon, Mitchell Trubisky, Devante Parker

Team B (Building): David Johnson

Im about to take Mixon 1.1 in a PPR league so I am very high on him but I would take the Johnson side easily 

[ILUVBEER99]

30 minutes ago, Raback said:

Im about to take Mixon 1.1 in a PPR league so I am very high on him but I would take the Johnson side easily 

In a super flex any potential stud QB is worth a ton, so it's not too awful.  Agree the DJ side wins, but if Trubisky pans out could easily see the deal working out for the Mixon side.

[Raback]

2 minutes ago, ILUVBEER99 said:

In a super flex any potential stud QB is worth a ton, so it's not too awful.  Agree the DJ side wins, but if Trubisky pans out could easily see the deal working out for the Mixon side.

True, but I see very little chance Trubisky ends up as a stud QB.   I think he'll be serviceable at best.  If it was Mahomes instead I would like it a lot more.  

[ghostguy123]

8 minutes ago, ILUVBEER99 said:

In a super flex any potential stud QB is worth a ton, so it's not too awful.  Agree the DJ side wins, but if Trubisky pans out could easily see the deal working out for the Mixon side.

This deal will certainly pan out for the other side...............in like 3-4 years

[Dan Hindery]

12 team PPR, Superflex

Gave: Brandin Cooks

for: Keenan Allen, 2018 2nd 

[One More Rep]

33 minutes ago, Dan Hindery said:

12 team PPR, Superflex

Gave: Brandin Cooks

for: Keenan Allen, 2018 2nd 

I like both players, would call it even

[SieteCinco]

1 hour ago, Raback said:

True, but I see very little chance Trubisky ends up as a stud QB.   I think he'll be serviceable at best.  If it was Mahomes instead I would like it a lot more.  

Bit more context:

•12 Team tiered PPR where RBs only get 0.5 PPR (WRs get 1, TEs get 1.5)

•Start 1RB, but can flex up to four more, so RBs hardly ever fetch anything on the market in this league. I think the pendulum has probably swung too far in the WR direction, but that's how this market is (one owner even told me he had Fournette/Dalvin/Mixon at 9/10/11 on his rookie board, even though I find that difficult to believe.

•Other team is rebuilding, but didn't have much of anything to sell off - Winston, Tannehill, DJ, Perine, Christian Kirk, Paul a Richardson, Kupp, Evan Engram. I doubt he moves Winston in a SuperFlex where QBs get 5 points per passing TDs, and 9/12 of the other owners usually get one RB and then ignore the position/flex 4 WRs instead. He had asked about Trubisky multiple times since the draft, so I'm assuming he's high on him. QBs are difficult to get (last year alone Kaep went for a 1st when he got hot, Osweiller a 1+2, and McCown/Fitz type stop gaps are always flipped for 2s)

Edited May 20, 2017 by SieteCinco

[Danish Bengal]

3 hours ago, Dan Hindery said:

12 team PPR, Superflex

Gave: Brandin Cooks

for: Keenan Allen, 2018 2nd 

Cooks by a lot

[Nero]

Gave: Corey Coleman 

Received: Mike Williams and Tyler Boyd

[One More Rep]

2 hours ago, Nero said:

Gave: Corey Coleman 

Received: Mike Williams and Tyler Boyd

I will take Coleman but close

[GECKO]

6 hours ago, Nero said:

Gave: Corey Coleman 

Received: Mike Williams and Tyler Boyd

Williams and Boyd

[Skeletore Eh]

7 hours ago, Nero said:

Gave: Corey Coleman 

Received: Mike Williams and Tyler Boyd

As a Coleman owner, I'd take Williams straight up

[msudaisy26]

35 minutes ago, Skeletore Eh said:

As a Coleman owner, I'd take Williams straight up

Why are you so down on Coleman or are you that high on Williams?

[kutta]

12 team PPR. Not involved.

Tyrell Williams for Delanie Walker

Edit: trade was relayed me incorrectly initially as Inman for Walker.

Edited May 20, 2017 by kutta

[Skeletore Eh]

22 minutes ago, msudaisy26 said:

Why are you so down on Coleman or are you that high on Williams?

To be honest I like both. I like Coleman as a player, and his may be a bit of a cop out, but I would take the opportunity to trade a Cleveland brown for another young player I like in a situation I much prefer. 

[Dawg Pound 69]

29 minutes ago, kutta said:

12 team PPR. Not involved.

Inman for Delanie Walker

I know Walker only has a few more years of elite production yet. But Inman is Chargers WR5, so this is an odd trade. And will be hard to move up the depth chart, as he just had surgery so will be out for 6 weeks. He is on waiver wire in pretty much all of my leagues. Unless the owner really believes in his talent, and is banking on him signing elsewhere in free agency next year and becoming a starter ? 

[Skeletore Eh]

6 minutes ago, Dawg Pound 69 said:

Unless the owner really believes in his talent, and is banking on him signing elsewhere in free agency next year and becoming a starter ? 

Even if that is the case it's a terrible trade 

[Dez]

16 team 1.5 TE PPR

Traded picks 10 and 18 for pick 8 while 8 was OTC took Dalvin Cook.

High price to pay but Cook fell that far because one team took 3 straight TE's at 5,6 and 7.

[msudaisy26]

2 hours ago, Skeletore Eh said:

To be honest I like both. I like Coleman as a player, and his may be a bit of a cop out, but I would take the opportunity to trade a Cleveland brown for another young player I like in a situation I much prefer. 

I like Coleman better and actually tried to get him for Williams in one of my leagues, but didn't work out.

[ghostguy123]

1 minute ago, Dez said:

16 team 1.5 TE PPR

Traded picks 10 and 18 for pick 8 while 8 was OTC took Dalvin Cook.

High price to pay but Cook fell that far because one team took 3 straight TE's at 5,6 and 7.

High price to pay??

[msudaisy26]

1 minute ago, Dez said:

16 team 1.5 TE PPR

Traded picks 10 and 18 for pick 8 while 8 was OTC took Dalvin Cook.

High price to pay but Cook fell that far because one team took 3 straight TE's at 5,6 and 7.

The drop off after Cook and those 3 tight ends being gone is big at 1.10, I actually think the owner of 1.8 could have gotten a lot more from another owner or you if he held out.

[kutta]

2 hours ago, Dawg Pound 69 said:

I know Walker only has a few more years of elite production yet. But Inman is Chargers WR5, so this is an odd trade. And will be hard to move up the depth chart, as he just had surgery so will be out for 6 weeks. He is on waiver wire in pretty much all of my leagues. Unless the owner really believes in his talent, and is banking on him signing elsewhere in free agency next year and becoming a starter ? 

The trade was relayed incorrectly to me. It was actually Tyrell Williams for Walker.

[kutta]

12 team PPR. Not involved.

1.05, 3.05, 4.05 for 1.04.

He took Mixon with 1.04. Cook and CM were also both available. Fournette, Davis, and Williams were the first three picks.

[Rhythmdoctor]

41 minutes ago, Dez said:

16 team 1.5 TE PPR

Traded picks 10 and 18 for pick 8 while 8 was OTC took Dalvin Cook.

High price to pay but Cook fell that far because one team took 3 straight TE's at 5,6 and 7.

[Skeletore Eh]

2 minutes ago, Rhythmdoctor said:

In 1.5 ppr for te, not crazy

[Rhythmdoctor]

Just now, Skeletore Eh said:

In 1.5 ppr for te, not crazy

Exactly. And you can start up to 3 TEs

[-OZ-]

11 minutes ago, Rhythmdoctor said:

Exactly. And you can start up to 3 TEs

In these leagues taking the big 3 TE in the top 7 makes sense imo.

[Tool]

1 hour ago, Dez said:

16 team 1.5 TE PPR

Traded picks 10 and 18 for pick 8 while 8 was OTC took Dalvin Cook.

High price to pay but Cook fell that far because one team took 3 straight TE's at 5,6 and 7.

Is Belichek in your league?

[Dez]

16 team IDP 1.5 TE PPR

Traded picks 15 and 17 for picks 7 and 55 while 7 was OTC took Njoku.

High price to pay for a TE.

[Zyphros]

I think everyone is confused as to what "High price to pay" means

[msudaisy26]

19 minutes ago, Tool said:

Is Belichek in your league?

To be fair it is 1.5 PPR for tight ends, and if you can start all 3 that could be a nice advantage if they all turn out. I would have taken 2 TE's and Cook

[Rhythmdoctor]

6 minutes ago, msudaisy26 said:

To be fair it is 1.5 PPR for tight ends, and if you can start all 3 that could be a nice advantage if they all turn out. I would have taken 2 TE's and Cook

I still have the 1.11 & 1.12

[msudaisy26]

3 minutes ago, Rhythmdoctor said:

I still have the 1.11 & 1.12

So you took the 3 tight ends in a row?

[Snorkelson]

3 minutes ago, msudaisy26 said:

So you took the 3 tight ends in a row?

He did, judging by the sheepish whistle emoji. Even if one works out it could be worth it. 

[msudaisy26]

15 minutes ago, Rhythmdoctor said:

I still have the 1.11 & 1.12

I am just curious, did you consider trading one of those picks or do you lack the roster space? Sounds like you could have dropped back and still got all 3 tight  ends.

Edited May 20, 2017 by msudaisy26

[ghostguy123]

19 minutes ago, msudaisy26 said:

I am just curious, did you consider trading one of those picks or do you lack the roster space? Sounds like you could have dropped back and still got all 3 tight  ends.

Who knows.  The FFPC drafts are all different.

Edit...i guess that wasnt FFPC but the 1.5 ppr for TE is rather significant.

Edited May 20, 2017 by ghostguy123

[Dez]

20 minutes ago, msudaisy26 said:

I am just curious, did you consider trading one of those picks or do you lack the roster space? Sounds like you could have dropped back and still got all 3 tight  ends.

He couldn't have.  The TE's were all going to go in the top 8 or 9 picks.  At best he could have traded back to 8 from 5 if the guy at 8 was wanting to move up for Cook.  That been the only way really.

Edited May 20, 2017 by Dez

[msudaisy26]

I just wanted to know his process here, I am not trying to belittle it at all. It is something you don't see everyday and I was curious to his thought process.

[Rhythmdoctor]

11 minutes ago, msudaisy26 said:

I just wanted to know his process here, I am not trying to belittle it at all. It is something you don't see everyday and I was curious to his thought process.

I started the draft with: 1.05, 1.07, 1.11 & 1.12 - My main target and favorite player in the draft is CMC.  I made a few attempts to trade my 1.05 and other variations to the owner who took CMC at 1.03 but nothing worked.  I was already planning on getting 2 of the 3 big TEs with my 1.05 and 1.07 but once I knew I couldn't get CMC, I knew I had to get all 3 TEs.  Problem is, I have not been able to solidify the order of those 3 and my fear is that I'd miss the 'best' TE, so I really was set on getting the big 3 TEs. Then, the 1.06 owner posted that the pick was available so I worked out the below trade with him that he accepted:

Diggs, 3.16, 2018 2nd rounder for the 1.06.  

Some think I may have paid too much but I have OBJ and ARob and also Tyreek Hill on my taxi squad, so I think it was worth selling Diggs for - he would have been a spot starter and he's a guy who will put up 4-6 very good games per year.  Plus, although I do like Diggs, I don't like that offense.

Finally, I just selected Zay Jones and  JuJu with the 1.11 and 1.12.  I feel really good about my draft.

Edited May 20, 2017 by Rhythmdoctor

[msudaisy26]

1 minute ago, Rhythmdoctor said:

I started the draft with: 1.05, 1.07, 1.11 & 1.12 - My main target and favorite player in the draft is CMC.  I made a few attempts to trade my 1.05 and other variations to the owner who took CMC at 1.03 but nothing worked.   was already planning on getting 2 of the 3 with my 1.05 and 1.07 but once I knew I couldn't get CMC, I knew I had to get all 3 TEs.  Problem is, I have not been able to solidify the order of those 3 and my fear is that I'd miss the 'best' TE, so I really was set on getting the big 3 TEs. Then, the 1.06 owner posted that the pick was available so I worked out the below trade with him that he accepted:

Diggs, 3.16, 2018 2nd rounder for the 1.06.  

Some think I may have paid too much but I have OBJ and ARob and also Tyreek Hill on my taxi squad, so I think it was worth selling Diggs for - he would have been a spot starter and he's a guy who will put up 4-6 very good games per year.  Plus, although I do like Diggs, I don't like that offense.

Finally, I just selected Zay Jones and  JuJu with the 1.11 and 1.12.  I feel really good about my draft.

Thanks for sharing, I have shares in all those guys except for Howard so I hope it works out for you. Well expect for Howard

[Rhythmdoctor]

Just now, msudaisy26 said:

Thanks for sharing, I have shares in all those guys except for Howard so I hope it works out for you. Well expect for Howard

I personally like Njoku best then a tie between Howard and Engram.  But I drafted Howard first.  Can't wait to see how these guys pan out.

[buck naked]

2 hours ago, ghostguy123 said:

High price to pay??

Considering that is the second time Dez/Henry has said that about one of his trades, when it clearly is not a high price, shows he really has no idea.

[Dez]

6 minutes ago, buck naked said:

Considering that is the second time Dez/Henry has said that about one of his trades, when it clearly is not a high price, shows he really has no idea.

You never know when you are giving up the next David Johnson the next Jordan Howard when you give up a 2nd round pick to just move up a few spots in the 1st round.

In 2015 I tried hard to move up to pick 4 in my one rookie draft I offered 14,15 and 20 and was turned down the counter was for my 10,14 and 15.  I turned it down luckily as Abdullah went to him at 4 who I would have also taken but at 15 I got David Johnson.  So which was better having the 1 "stud" pick that everyone said was a go get guy in the top 6 that year or settle for 3 so so guys at 10,14 and 15 ?  One of them so so guys was David Johnson and while my other 2 picks look like busts in Perriman and Funchess having 3 bullets over 1 was huge in this situation.  Last year how are those 2,3,4,5 picks working out ?  Michael Thomas went 10 in two of my leagues last year and Howard was a 2nd rounder in one and fell all the way to the 3rd round in another.  Much better than Treadwell who went top 4 in nearly every draft last year or even the other guys who still might show up this year in Doctson and others.

Just saying you never know everyone always wants the projected stud but sometimes the shark play is to have multiple lower picks.

To each their own which is why trades are made.

[jadensdad]

Two trades today

ppr superflex  otc deals

ebron and 1.5 (cook) for 1.4 (mixon) and Ginn 

zeke, 4.2, and 18 4th for 1.7 (otc) took oj Howard, Lamar miller, Randal Cobb, 2.6 and 18 3rd

[buck naked]

1 hour ago, Rhythmdoctor said:

You weren't the only one facing the decision of what to do with drafting multiple TEs. I had picks 5, 7, 8, 9, 11 in an FFPC 2500 draft this year. I thought long and hard about taking all 3 of them for months. I needed to rebuild this team, but at that price point it is harder to be very patient and watch 3 TEs take time to develop. I ended up taking Howard at 5, trading up for Dalvin at 6, and Njoku at 8 and M. Williams at 9. I still could have taken Engram at 11, but needed an RB so I went with Hunt. 

It is definitely a ballsy strategy to take all 3, so I applaud you taking the risk and going for it.

[buck naked]

41 minutes ago, Dez said:

You never know when you are giving up the next David Johnson the next Jordan Howard when you give up a 2nd round pick to just move up a few spots in the 1st round.

In 2015 I tried hard to move up to pick 4 in my one rookie draft I offered 14,15 and 20 and was turned down the counter was for my 10,14 and 15.  I turned it down luckily as Abdullah went to him at 4 who I would have also taken but at 15 I got David Johnson.  So which was better having the 1 "stud" pick that everyone said was a go get guy in the top 6 that year or settle for 3 so so guys at 10,14 and 15 ?  One of them so so guys was David Johnson and while my other 2 picks look like busts in Perriman and Funchess having 3 bullets over 1 was huge in this situation.  Last year how are those 2,3,4,5 picks working out ?  Michael Thomas went 10 in two of my leagues last year and Howard was a 2nd rounder in one and fell all the way to the 3rd round in another.  Much better than Treadwell who went top 4 in nearly every draft last year or even the other guys who still might show up this year in Doctson and others.

Just saying you never know everyone always wants the projected stud but sometimes the shark play is to have multiple lower picks.

To each their own which is why trades are made.

You just changed the focus with that response. The point isn't who you COULD draft and whether you drafted the right player. Your point and my response was to the point of whether what you gave up was a "high price to pay". Ghostguy and I both recognize how little you are giving up to move up.

Edited May 20, 2017 by buck naked

[northern exposure]

48 minutes ago, Rhythmdoctor said:

I started the draft with: 1.05, 1.07, 1.11 & 1.12 - My main target and favorite player in the draft is CMC.  I made a few attempts to trade my 1.05 and other variations to the owner who took CMC at 1.03 but nothing worked.  I was already planning on getting 2 of the 3 big TEs with my 1.05 and 1.07 but once I knew I couldn't get CMC, I knew I had to get all 3 TEs.  Problem is, I have not been able to solidify the order of those 3 and my fear is that I'd miss the 'best' TE, so I really was set on getting the big 3 TEs. Then, the 1.06 owner posted that the pick was available so I worked out the below trade with him that he accepted:

Diggs, 3.16, 2018 2nd rounder for the 1.06.  

Some think I may have paid too much but I have OBJ and ARob and also Tyreek Hill on my taxi squad, so I think it was worth selling Diggs for - he would have been a spot starter and he's a guy who will put up 4-6 very good games per year.  Plus, although I do like Diggs, I don't like that offense.

Finally, I just selected Zay Jones and  JuJu with the 1.11 and 1.12.  I feel really good about my draft.

So, if CMc went 1.03 and Cook went 1.08. I'm curious who went at 1.01, 1.02, 1.04, 1.09 and 1.10? I assume in some order it was Fournette, Mixon, Davis, Williams and then maybe Ross, Kamara, Perrine. But, I'd like to see the exact draft order out of curiousity. Thanks.

[Rhythmdoctor]

2 minutes ago, northern exposure said:

So, if CMc went 1.03 and Cook went 1.08. I'm curious who went at 1.01, 1.02, 1.04, 1.09 and 1.10? I assume in some order it was Fournette, Mixon, Davis, Williams and then maybe Ross, Kamara, Perrine. But, I'd like to see the exact draft order out of curiousity. Thanks.

1 - Fournette 

2 - Davis

4 - Mixon

8 - Cook

9 - Williams 

10 - Ross

[northern exposure]

6 minutes ago, Rhythmdoctor said:

1 - Fournette 

2 - Davis

4 - Mixon

8 - Cook

9 - Williams 

10 - Ross

Williams with the 1.09 pick would be sweet.

[jeaton6]

12 Team PPR

Gave: 1.9/2.6/3.6/Ertz

Got: 1.3 which I turned into Davis