Gianluca Posted June 17, 2017 Share Posted June 17, 2017 2 hours ago, Snorkelson said: Moncreif and rogers for Keenan? I like it for you, assuming Allen can play more than 1/2 a game. Yeah hope he can survive for a half of a season and preferably the 2nd half for a championship run lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drewd_21 Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 12 tm idp ppr Team A gave: C.Hogan, Wheaton, 2018 2nd/3rd/4th (should be late) Team B gave: Cobb 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One More Rep Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 1 hour ago, drewd_21 said: 12 tm idp ppr Team A gave: C.Hogan, Wheaton, 2018 2nd/3rd/4th (should be late) Team B gave: Cobb Nice deal 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 Quote 5. Gave: Donte Moncrief, Delanie Walker, 2.08 pick (Chris Godwin), 3.04 rookie pick (re-traded) Got: Dalvin Cook (acquired him after he was drafted; 2.04 was on the clock), 2.04 pick (JuJu Smith-Schuster) Yikes. You got the top 2 pieces in the deal for fifty cents on the dollar.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuckLiddell Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 1 hour ago, Spike said: Yikes. You got the top 2 pieces in the deal for fifty cents on the dollar.. So if I understand correctly, you are valuing JuJu over Moncreif? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPeso Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 4 hours ago, drewd_21 said: 12 tm idp ppr Team A gave: C.Hogan, Wheaton, 2018 2nd/3rd/4th (should be late) Team B gave: Cobb At that price, I'd take a stab at Cobb 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msudaisy26 Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 On 6/15/2017 at 11:24 PM, kittenmittens said: Yeah, if you're going to trade OBJ you can do better than that. At least get Amari Cooper or Mike Evans or another young guy who has a good young QB throwing to him. Bortles is not cutting it, and I don't know how much the Jaguars are going to throw if they can play their way. I think it was a fair return and I wouldn't trade Evans for OBJ straight up, you would have to add to OBJ. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 1 hour ago, ChuckLiddell said: So if I understand correctly, you are valuing JuJu over Moncreif? Yup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dez Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 (edited) 2 hours ago, Spike said: Yikes. You got the top 2 pieces in the deal for fifty cents on the dollar.. Moncrief only worth a 2nd rounder ? Yikes on that logic. http://playffwc.com/football/leagueF1000046/index.php?page=teamdraft In this DFWC startup Moncrief went in the 4th round and JuJu in the 12th. Edited June 18, 2017 by Dez 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 1 minute ago, Dez said: Moncrief no longer worth a 2nd rounder ? Yikes on that logic. Averages in his 3 seasons: 42 receptions; 495 yards; 5 TDs Is that what I should expect from a 2nd rounder? Is that 2nd round value? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuckLiddell Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 Just now, Spike said: Averages in his 3 seasons: 42 receptions; 495 yards; 5 TDs Is that what I should expect from a 2nd rounder? Is that 2nd round value? Injuries, brutha! Not only to him, but to his young, blue chip QB as well. JuJu may well be the real deal but he is battling Eli Rogers to be the WR3 on his own team - and his QB is flirting with retirement. The FBG composite dynasty WR rankings have Moncreif at 22 and JuJu at 41. Even if you personally like JuJu better, the consensus seems to disagree, meaning that the values in that trade are different to most than they are to you personally. I get that you are just stating your own opinion, and the fact that it differs from consensus is actually awesome - we need more of that IMO. But for most, Moncreif is worth a lot more than 2.04, or JuJu. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kutta Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 12 team PPR. I'm not involved. Team A gets Perkins, Paul NYG RB and Coleman, Corey CLE WR Team B gets Diggs, Stefon MIN WR and Jones, Marvin DET WR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One More Rep Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 16 minutes ago, kutta said: 12 team PPR. I'm not involved. Team A gets Perkins, Paul NYG RB and Coleman, Corey CLE WR Team B gets Diggs, Stefon MIN WR and Jones, Marvin DET WR Diggs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreeBaGeL Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 1 hour ago, kutta said: 12 team PPR. I'm not involved. Team A gets Perkins, Paul NYG RB and Coleman, Corey CLE WR Team B gets Diggs, Stefon MIN WR and Jones, Marvin DET WR For me it's Coleman > Diggs and Perkins > Marvin so I'll take team A. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPeso Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 2 hours ago, kutta said: 12 team PPR. I'm not involved. Team A gets Perkins, Paul NYG RB and Coleman, Corey CLE WR Team B gets Diggs, Stefon MIN WR and Jones, Marvin DET WR Perkins and Coleman by a mile. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msudaisy26 Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 28 minutes ago, JPeso said: Perkins and Coleman by a mile. This. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unwrittenlaw Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 (edited) 16 ppr league (1.25 ppr for TE/ .2/re yd for TE ---- 1 ppr for RB/WR/ .1/re yd for TE) Some moves I've made. traded #20 rookie pick (guy took Engram) for #28, #44, and Brate traded #28 rookie and Marcel Dareus for #23, took McNichols Some other trades that were made by other owners in the league Aaron Rodgers for Luck and #8 rookie pick Adams, Davante WR GB and #43 rookie for Derrick Henry and #50 rookie Tyreek Hill and Eli Rogers for Sammy Watkins Langford, Jeremy, Ginn, Ted and Pick #30 for Hurns, Allen, Crowell, Isaiah and Pick 54 Edited June 18, 2017 by Unwrittenlaw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gabes1919 Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, Unwrittenlaw said: 16 ppr league (1.25 ppr for TE/ .2/re yd for TE ---- 1 ppr for RB/WR/ .1/re yd for TE) Some moves I've made. traded #20 rookie pick (Engram) for #28, #44, and Brate traded #28 rookie and Marcel Dareus for #23, took McNichols Some other trades that were made by other owners in the league Aaron Rodgers for Luck and #8 rookie pick Adams, Davante WR GB and #43 rookie for Derrick Henry and #50 rookie Tyreek Hill and Eli Rogers for Sammy Watkins Langford, Jeremy, Ginn, Ted and Pick #30 for Hurns, Allen, Crowell, Isaiah and Pick 54 If I'm understanding the scoring right, double yards for te and 1.25 ppr, then how in the hell did Engram drop to 20 and why would you not snap him up? Engram my a country mile on your trades. Otherwise Luck and pick by a fair amount Adams by a lot Sammy by a ton Hurns/Crowell by a massive amount Edited June 18, 2017 by gabes1919 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghostguy123 Posted June 19, 2017 Share Posted June 19, 2017 4 hours ago, Unwrittenlaw said: 16 ppr league (1.25 ppr for TE/ .2/re yd for TE ---- 1 ppr for RB/WR/ .1/re yd for TE) Some moves I've made. traded #20 rookie pick (guy took Engram) for #28, #44, and Brate traded #28 rookie and Marcel Dareus for #23, took McNichols Some other trades that were made by other owners in the league Aaron Rodgers for Luck and #8 rookie pick Adams, Davante WR GB and #43 rookie for Derrick Henry and #50 rookie Tyreek Hill and Eli Rogers for Sammy Watkins Langford, Jeremy, Ginn, Ted and Pick #30 for Hurns, Allen, Crowell, Isaiah and Pick 54 None of this makes any sense 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jadensdad Posted June 19, 2017 Share Posted June 19, 2017 (edited) Ppr superflex team a - dalvin cook, devante Parker, witten team b - deshaun Watson, kamara, rudolf, Texans d, 2018 first ( mid to late) and 4th Edited June 19, 2017 by jadensdad More info Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zyphros Posted June 19, 2017 Share Posted June 19, 2017 1 hour ago, jadensdad said: Ppr superflex team a - dalvin cook, devante Parker, witten team b - deshaun Watson, kamara, rudolf, Texans d, 2018 first ( mid to late) and 4th I don't even like Cook or Parker and I'll take that side. Also sidenote: Love when trades involve defenses, cause obviously that makes or breaks it, same with adding a 4th at the end. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hankmoody Posted June 19, 2017 Share Posted June 19, 2017 3 hours ago, jadensdad said: Ppr superflex team a - dalvin cook, devante Parker, witten team b - deshaun Watson, kamara, rudolf, Texans d, 2018 first ( mid to late) and 4th Man if that's what it means to play in superflex count me out. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garlicduck Posted June 19, 2017 Share Posted June 19, 2017 12 team PPR; start 1 QB, 2-4 RB, 2-4 WR, 1-3 TE, D, K Gave: Andy Dalton, Dez Bryant, Jalen Richard, Zach Ertz Got: Blake Bortles, Rob Gronkowski, Dwayne Allen, Stefon Diggs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jadensdad Posted June 19, 2017 Share Posted June 19, 2017 3 hours ago, Hankmoody said: Man if that's what it means to play in superflex count me out. Would you like it better if it was 1.5 and devante Parker for 1.6, 1.9, Rudolph and 18 first? in superflex qb's are gold. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPeso Posted June 19, 2017 Share Posted June 19, 2017 4 hours ago, garlicduck said: 12 team PPR; start 1 QB, 2-4 RB, 2-4 WR, 1-3 TE, D, K Gave: Andy Dalton, Dez Bryant, Jalen Richard, Zach Ertz Got: Blake Bortles, Rob Gronkowski, Dwayne Allen, Stefon Diggs Gronk and Diggs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-OZ- Posted June 19, 2017 Share Posted June 19, 2017 6 hours ago, Hankmoody said: Man if that's what it means to play in superflex count me out. could see someone preferring Watson to cook in superflex, at least it's not as large a difference as normal leagues. The rest seems fairly even. Rudy over witten, the pick and kamara over parker, Texans d probably the best defense so that helps even if we don't care about defense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One More Rep Posted June 19, 2017 Share Posted June 19, 2017 6 hours ago, garlicduck said: 12 team PPR; start 1 QB, 2-4 RB, 2-4 WR, 1-3 TE, D, K Gave: Andy Dalton, Dez Bryant, Jalen Richard, Zach Ertz Got: Blake Bortles, Rob Gronkowski, Dwayne Allen, Stefon Diggs Gronk/Diggs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Octopus Posted June 19, 2017 Share Posted June 19, 2017 4 hours ago, jadensdad said: Would you like it better if it was 1.5 and devante Parker for 1.6, 1.9, Rudolph and 18 first? in superflex qb's are gold. I think that's the point he's trying to make. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hankmoody Posted June 19, 2017 Share Posted June 19, 2017 4 hours ago, jadensdad said: Would you like it better if it was 1.5 and devante Parker for 1.6, 1.9, Rudolph and 18 first? in superflex qb's are gold. No. I wouldn't give up Cook for any combination of 1.06 and 1.09 on my list, let alone the donkeys listed. And I'd easily give a playoff 2018 1st and Rudolph for Parker (I offered exactly that recently for him and was rejected). 10 minutes ago, Dr. Octopus said: 4 hours ago, jadensdad said: Would you like it better if it was 1.5 and devante Parker for 1.6, 1.9, Rudolph and 18 first? in superflex qb's are gold. I think that's the point he's trying to make. Close, I was trying to make the point that they are fool's gold. If I have to give 1.05 for Kamara and Watson just to try to stay competitive I want no part of that. That trade equates to 1.05 for 1.11 and 1.14 in the most extreme 16 man draft I was in - most were much less (19 and 20 in one, 13/26, and 15/21 - for Cook!). I get that that's the market price for a QB, it's just absurd. I also don't get drafting Cook at 1.05 and turning around and downgrading him a minute later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckna Posted June 19, 2017 Share Posted June 19, 2017 22 hours ago, msudaisy26 said: I think it was a fair return and I wouldn't trade Evans for OBJ straight up, you would have to add to OBJ. Agreed, I prefer Evans straight up too. I don't own Cooper anywhere but that's because his asking price is sky high. I'm sure his owners wouldn't mind upgrading to OBJ but I doubt they would add anything of significant value to do so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jadensdad Posted June 19, 2017 Share Posted June 19, 2017 2 hours ago, Hankmoody said: No. I wouldn't give up Cook for any combination of 1.06 and 1.09 on my list, let alone the donkeys listed. And I'd easily give a playoff 2018 1st and Rudolph for Parker (I offered exactly that recently for him and was rejected). Close, I was trying to make the point that they are fool's gold. If I have to give 1.05 for Kamara and Watson just to try to stay competitive I want no part of that. That trade equates to 1.05 for 1.11 and 1.14 in the most extreme 16 man draft I was in - most were much less (19 and 20 in one, 13/26, and 15/21 - for Cook!). I get that that's the market price for a QB, it's just absurd. I also don't get drafting Cook at 1.05 and turning around and downgrading him a minute later. My first deal that has been crushed by this board. Oh well.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hankmoody Posted June 19, 2017 Share Posted June 19, 2017 1 minute ago, jadensdad said: My first deal that has been crushed by this board. Oh well.... Not crushing it at all. I said exactly the opposite - "I get that that's the market price for a QB" so I don't think you overpaid given the context of the league. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-OZ- Posted June 19, 2017 Share Posted June 19, 2017 4 hours ago, Hankmoody said: I get that that's the market price for a QB, it's just absurd. Things real GMs say? To each their own. But one of the aspects of ff that I've disliked is the value/price of good RB. Superflex at least lowers that value a tad and makes the positional values closer (real : fantasy) I haven't played in a superflex in a decade but want to get back into one. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jadensdad Posted June 19, 2017 Share Posted June 19, 2017 36 minutes ago, -OZ- said: Things real GMs say? To each their own. But one of the aspects of ff that I've disliked is the value/price of good RB. Superflex at least lowers that value a tad and makes the positional values closer (real : fantasy) I haven't played in a superflex in a decade but want to get back into one. They are a lot more fun. I only play superflex or 2 qb now, with bigger starting lineup requirements. Depth and quality of talent reign supreme. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tha Guru Posted June 19, 2017 Share Posted June 19, 2017 In my rookie draft I was able to trade 1.04 for the 1.07 and DeMarco Murray. The best part was since RB's in the draft are treated like gold, Corey Davis fell to me at 1.07. Crazy as this is a PPR league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barackdhouse Posted June 19, 2017 Share Posted June 19, 2017 9 minutes ago, Tha Guru said: In my rookie draft I was able to trade 1.04 for the 1.07 and DeMarco Murray. The best part was since RB's in the draft are treated like gold, Corey Davis fell to me at 1.07. Crazy as this is a PPR league. I couldn't even get Davis to fall to 1.02 in two leagues or 1.04 in another. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joey Posted June 19, 2017 Share Posted June 19, 2017 2 hours ago, Tha Guru said: In my rookie draft I was able to trade 1.04 for the 1.07 and DeMarco Murray. The best part was since RB's in the draft are treated like gold, Corey Davis fell to me at 1.07. Crazy as this is a PPR league. outlier 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeSteeler Posted June 19, 2017 Share Posted June 19, 2017 2 hours ago, Tha Guru said: In my rookie draft I was able to trade 1.04 for the 1.07 and DeMarco Murray. The best part was since RB's in the draft are treated like gold, Corey Davis fell to me at 1.07. Crazy as this is a PPR league. How did 1.01-1.06 go? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeaton6 Posted June 19, 2017 Share Posted June 19, 2017 12 Team PPR. Start 1 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 3 Flex. Gave: Perkins and Hill Got: Landry Perkins was my RB 3 or 4. Now have Howard, Henry, Hill, Ware, Sims, Burkhead. Tyreek was my WR 5/6. Now have Evans, Hopkins, Hilton, Adams, Landry, Sanders, White, Wallace, Shepard, Fuller. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joey Posted June 19, 2017 Share Posted June 19, 2017 19 minutes ago, JoeSteeler said: How did 1.01-1.06 go? I'll guess... top 4 some combo of Fournette, Mixon, McCaffrey, Cook. and then Perine and Hunt. did I win? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPeso Posted June 19, 2017 Share Posted June 19, 2017 20 minutes ago, jeaton6 said: 12 Team PPR. Start 1 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 3 Flex. Gave: Perkins and Hill Got: Landry Perkins was my RB 3 or 4. Now have Howard, Henry, Hill, Ware, Sims, Burkhead. Tyreek was my WR 5/6. Now have Evans, Hopkins, Hilton, Adams, Landry, Sanders, White, Wallace, Shepard, Fuller. I prefer the duo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetMaxx Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 Rejected a Wentz/Cooper offer for Mariota in a start 1 QB format. Whereas I question Wentz, I think MM is bound for greatness and the heir to my Rodgers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fruity pebbles Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 3 minutes ago, JetMaxx said: Rejected a Wentz/Cooper offer for Mariota in a start 1 QB format. Whereas I question Wentz, I think MM is bound for greatness and the heir to my Rodgers. Assuming youre talking about Pharoh Cooper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetMaxx Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 Rejected a Wentz/Cooper offer for Mariota in a start 1 QB format. Whereas I question Wentz, I think MM is bound for greatness and the heir to my Rodgers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeaton6 Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 56 minutes ago, fruity pebbles said: Assuming youre talking about Pharoh Cooper Has to be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeaton6 Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 50 minutes ago, JetMaxx said: Rejected a Wentz/Cooper offer for Mariota in a start 1 QB format. Whereas I question Wentz, I think MM is bound for greatness and the heir to my Rodgers. Come on man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-OZ- Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 1 hour ago, JetMaxx said: Rejected a Wentz/Cooper offer for Mariota in a start 1 QB format. Whereas I question Wentz, I think MM is bound for greatness and the heir to my Rodgers. I love Mariota but that better be pharoh or kupp. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tha Guru Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 8 hours ago, JoeSteeler said: How did 1.01-1.06 go? Fournette McCaffrey Cook Mixon Hunt OJ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tha Guru Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 7 hours ago, joey said: I'll guess... top 4 some combo of Fournette, Mixon, McCaffrey, Cook. and then Perine and Hunt. did I win? Damn close, Perine went 1.08. OJ went 6th Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One More Rep Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 13 hours ago, jeaton6 said: 12 Team PPR. Start 1 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 3 Flex. Gave: Perkins and Hill Got: Landry Perkins was my RB 3 or 4. Now have Howard, Henry, Hill, Ware, Sims, Burkhead. Tyreek was my WR 5/6. Now have Evans, Hopkins, Hilton, Adams, Landry, Sanders, White, Wallace, Shepard, Fuller. I like that for Landry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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