****OFFICIAL DYNASTY TRADES****

[Steel Curtainrod]

I just mortgaged the farm for Jacobs in advance of the deadline at midnight tonight. 

10 team, full ppr dynasty, qb, 3wr, 2rb, 1flex, 1TE, 1DT. 

Received: Jacobs, Beasley

Sent: Evans, Conner 2021 rookie(7-10) and 2021 3rd. 

In a weird spot where I went from rebuild to likely getting the playoff bye, stacked at WR (Evans, diggs, Terry, lockett, claypool and some flyers) but only Conner and Robinson serviceable at RB with some flyers stashed (perine, gaskin, mattison, bell, penny, etc).

I've been historically above average at drafting/acquiring WRs but can not seem to hit on RBs. I've now got two bellcow RBs at 22 years of age and those remaining WRs to build upon and can still compete this year. 

Consensus FF wisdom is this is robbery, but I know my leaguemates well and young, stud RBs are untouchable without over-paying. 

I went out and got "my guy".  Now, we let the chips fall. 

Good luck, fellas. 

Edited November 21, 2020 by Steel Curtainrod
Typos

[The Future Champs]

11 minutes ago, Steel Curtainrod said:

I just mortgaged the farm for Jacobs in advance of the deadline at midnight tonight. 

10 team, full ppr dynasty, qb, 3wr, 2rb, 1flex, 1TE, 1DT. 

Received: Jacobs, Beasley

Sent: Evans, Conner 2020 rookie(7-10) and 2020 3rd. 

In a weird spot where I went from rebuild to likely getting the playoff bye, stacked at WR (Evans, diggs, Terry, lockett, claypool and some flyers) but only Conner and Robinson serviceable at RB with some flyers stashed (perine, gaskin, mattison, bell, penny, etc).

I've been historically above average at drafting/acquiring WRs but can not seem to hit on RBs. I've now got two bellcow RBs at 22 years of age and those remaining WRs to build upon and can still compete this year. 

Consensus FF wisdom is this is robbery, but I know my leaguemates well and young, stud RBs are untouchable without over-paying. 

I went out and got "my guy".  Now, we let the chips fall. 

Good luck, fellas. 

I assume you mean 2021 on those picks.

That said, seems a little heavy for Jacobs, but entirely sensible for a "win now" team with a pressing need.   

Best of luck.

[Steel Curtainrod]

26 minutes ago, The Future Champs said:

I assume you mean 2021 on those picks.

That said, seems a little heavy for Jacobs, but entirely sensible for a "win now" team with a pressing need.   

Best of luck.

Thanks, man. Yes, 2021 picks. Truly a case of value being what the market will bear in your respective leagues. I've been shopping both players for two seasons now and can't imagine their perceived value going up from here. It'll hurt for a minute but ultimately I like my team more w Jacobs moving fwd. 

[BigAl21]

I’m a true Jacobs believer so the slight overpay for the playoff run today might actually be an underpay in a year. Good luck

[BearsFan4Life]

14 Team .. No PPR (Start 1 qb, 5 flex, 1k, 1d) caveat is if you start 2 or 3 RB you must start a TE .. can not start more than 3 RB

 

Gave: DJ Moore, Sutton, Late 2021 2nd Round Rookie Pick (#25-28)

Got: Chubb, Hollywood Brown 

 

Making a run at title. I am now starting Mahomes, CMC(own Davis), Henry, Chubb (own Hunt), Hopkins, Kelce.  Have Mixon, Bernard, Conner on the bench. Godwin is my back up WR with Mike Williams and Hollywood, but only need to start 1 WR.

[Twenty-Four Eighty-Four]

Mike Williams and a 4th for Shenault and a 3rd.

PPR Superflex.

Edited November 24, 2020 by Twenty-Four Eighty-Four

[TheMaddog]

1qb 2 rb 3wr 1k 1def. Nonppr, 6pt all td.

Team a: a rodgers, h.ruggs

Team b: k.cupp, k.allen, 2021 2nd

[kutta]

11 minutes ago, TheMaddog said:

1qb 2 rb 3wr 1k 1def. Nonppr, 6pt all td.

Team a: a rodgers, h.ruggs

Team b: k.cupp, k.allen, 2021 2nd

Wow. Kupp and Allen easily here.

[Penguin]

On 11/20/2020 at 9:33 PM, Gottabesweet said:

late to post.   Happened after Bell signed with KC 

PPR, one QB league, 6 per TD.  
 

Bridgewater, Leveon Bell, Chris Herndon 

2021 Second (late), 2022 First (Top 5), 2022 Second (mid) 

picks easily

[Andy Dufresne]

Two from the same non-ppr IDP league. Took over an orphaned team and have been burning it to the ground to rebuild all season.

Trade 1

Gave: Ronald Jones, Josey Jewell

Got: 2021 early 2nd, Kalen Ballage

 

Trade 2

Gave: Tom Brady, 2021 4th & 6th

Got: 2021 3rd, $30 blind bidding

 

In summary, the relevant parts are Jones for early 2nd, Brady for early 3rd.

I now have 2 early & 2 late firsts, and 2 early picks in the 2nd & 3rd rounds. Trying to get another early first (likely 1st pick overall) for McLaurin.

[BearsFan4Life]

1 hour ago, Andy Dufresne said:

Two from the same non-ppr IDP league. Took over an orphaned team and have been burning it to the ground to rebuild all season.

Trade 1

Gave: Ronald Jones, Josey Jewell

Got: 2021 early 2nd, Kalen Ballage

 

Trade 2

Gave: Tom Brady, 2021 4th & 6th

Got: 2021 3rd, $30 blind bidding

 

In summary, the relevant parts are Jones for early 2nd, Brady for early 3rd.

I now have 2 early & 2 late firsts, and 2 early picks in the 2nd & 3rd rounds. Trying to get another early first (likely 1st pick overall) for McLaurin.

I would keep McLaurin at this point and use him in your rebuild

[Twenty-Four Eighty-Four]

13 hours ago, Twenty-Four Eighty-Four said:

Mike Williams and a 4th for Shenault and a 3rd.

PPR Superflex.

Which side do people like here? Just curious as to others though.

[Helaire-ious]

8 minutes ago, Twenty-Four Eighty-Four said:

Which side do people like here? Just curious as to others though.

Shenault side for me. I just sold Mike myself, along w/Renfrow, for Tua

[Zyphros]

51 minutes ago, Twenty-Four Eighty-Four said:

Which side do people like here? Just curious as to others though.

I’ll take Shenault and the better pick. MW isn’t anything special in PPR so I’ll go for ceiling. I’d be looking to package Shenault for a real upgrade though. I was a huge Shenault fan pre-draft, not that I’m writing the book on him yet, but I don’t see him being elite. 

[RedBird33]

Mulling two trades that need to go down this week.

Trade 1:

Give: Josh Jacobs

Get: Mike Thomas

Trade 2:

Give: Josh Jacobs

Get: 1st 2021, 2nd 2022 (2021 will likely be a top 5 pick)

Current Roster:

Wilson

CMC, Chubb, JJ,  Gibson

Lockett, Diontea Johnson, Slayton, Ruggs, Von Jefferson

Engram, Shultz 

[Helaire-ious]

7 minutes ago, RedBird33 said:

Mulling two trades that need to go down this week.

Trade 1:

Give: Josh Jacobs

Get: Mike Thomas

Trade 2:

Give: Josh Jacobs

Get: 1st 2021, 2nd 2022 (2021 will likely be a top 5 pick)

Current Roster:

Wilson

CMC, Chubb, JJ,  Gibson

Lockett, Diontea Johnson, Slayton, Ruggs, Von Jefferson

Engram, Shultz 

Take the MT deal NOW

[RedBird33]

Just now, Helaire-ious said:

Take the MT deal NOW

Thanks for the reply. I'm having a hard time with this one.

MT is such a tough offer to turn down but I should add this is Keeper (QB, RB, RT, WR, WR, TE) and a TD heavy league. No PPR points and minimal for yards. So MT isn't the consensus #1 WR as he would be in most other formats. I like Trade 2 because of the players I have already and the high picks provide great in-season depth.

What I'm really struggling with in the MT deal is the fact I would have to drop DJ. I really like what I see in DJ but am not 100% sold on him.

I was also just offered McLaurin and Mixon. I could flip Mixon for a decent pick.

The struggle is real. Might be the toughest decision I've had in the 30 year history of this league.

[Helaire-ious]

7 minutes ago, RedBird33 said:

Thanks for the reply. I'm having a hard time with this one.

MT is such a tough offer to turn down but I should add this is Keeper (QB, RB, RT, WR, WR, TE) and a TD heavy league. No PPR points and minimal for yards. So MT isn't the consensus #1 WR as he would be in most other formats. I like Trade 2 because of the players I have already and the high picks provide great in-season depth.

What I'm really struggling with in the MT deal is the fact I would have to drop DJ. I really like what I see in DJ but am not 100% sold on him.

I was also just offered McLaurin and Mixon. I could flip Mixon for a decent pick.

The struggle is real. Might be the toughest decision I've had in the 30 year history of this league.

In that case, I no longer like the MT deal

[pkroper22]

On 11/18/2020 at 2:38 AM, barackdhouse said:

I like it. I think it's on par for value regardless, because I think Kelce has 3+ elite TE seasons left. But I think making a win now move can trump the value question. We're not in the hobby of increasing the value of our franchise portfolio(s), we're in the hobby of crushing our opponents, winning Ships and stacking Benjamins. Value be damned. Good luck sir! 

PS I have made three win now moves in the last week. 

I like it too.  Kittle is already starting to show signs of wear and tear (he's a physical dude) and I wouldn't be surprised if his peak window is smaller than most.  Get those Benjamins!

[pkroper22]

On 11/19/2020 at 2:44 PM, BearsFan4Life said:

I will go with the CEH/AJB side as I do not want my eggs bundled in the Lions basket!

I second that!

[pkroper22]

4 hours ago, Twenty-Four Eighty-Four said:

Which side do people like here? Just curious as to others though.

I lean towards Shenault and a 3rd.

[pkroper22]

Made the following trade:

Gave:  Mark Andrews, Joshua Kelley

Got:  Ronald Jones

We aren't required to start a TE.  We start 1 RB, 1 WR and 3 flex.  To this point I hadn't started Andrews a single week.

[BigAl21]

2 hours ago, pkroper22 said:

Made the following trade:

Gave:  Mark Andrews, Joshua Kelley

Got:  Ronald Jones

We aren't required to start a TE.  We start 1 RB, 1 WR and 3 flex.  To this point I hadn't started Andrews a single week.

I don’t particularly like the deal. Even if you haven’t started Andrews once that likely means you won’t start Jones going forward, either. I own both in different leagues ... not very high on RoJo because of question marks surrounding his true role and future.

Edited November 24, 2020 by BigAl21

[Rockchild]

This went down in one of my leagues:

Saquon Barkley, RB, NYG

for

James Robinson, RB, JAX

Robert Woods, WR, LAR

 

The team getting Barkley is stacked at RB (start 1-4): Barkley, McCaffrey, Elliot, Chubb/Hunt, Mixon/Gio. He's a bit weaker at WR (start 1-4): Michael Thomas, Robbie Anderson, not much else.

These teams played each other too last week and the team trading away Robinson/Woods ended up losing.

 

[mzkp54]

12 team, SF, PPR, 1.5 TE Prem. IDP. Rebuild. 
Gave: Gurley/Hooper/‘22 3rd

Got: late ‘21 1st, ‘22 2nd

[FreeBaGeL]

10 hours ago, RedBird33 said:

Thanks for the reply. I'm having a hard time with this one.

MT is such a tough offer to turn down but I should add this is Keeper (QB, RB, RT, WR, WR, TE) and a TD heavy league. No PPR points and minimal for yards. So MT isn't the consensus #1 WR as he would be in most other formats. I like Trade 2 because of the players I have already and the high picks provide great in-season depth.

What I'm really struggling with in the MT deal is the fact I would have to drop DJ. I really like what I see in DJ but am not 100% sold on him.

I was also just offered McLaurin and Mixon. I could flip Mixon for a decent pick.

The struggle is real. Might be the toughest decision I've had in the 30 year history of this league.

This doesn't seem close to me. MT is a guy with huge question marks at a position where it's painfully easy to get productive guys without major question marks. 

I would take Jacobs over MT pretty easily in PPR. In non-ppr I would have Jacob's >>> MT. 

[SayWhat?]

1 hour ago, mzkp54 said:

12 team, SF, PPR, 1.5 TE Prem. IDP. Rebuild. 
Gave: Gurley/Hooper/‘22 3rd

Got: late ‘21 1st, ‘22 2nd

🤢

[BINGBING]

13 hours ago, Zyphros said:

I’ll take Shenault and the better pick. MW isn’t anything special in PPR so I’ll go for ceiling. I’d be looking to package Shenault for a real upgrade though. I was a huge Shenault fan pre-draft, not that I’m writing the book on him yet, but I don’t see him being elite. 

I own a ton of Shenault.  If i'm going to sell him i'd prefer to wait until after they draft a QB and his value jumps back up.  That all depends on teams needs, etc...

Wait you may have meant pre-rookie draft and not pre-NFL Draft, in which case I agree.

Edited November 25, 2020 by BINGBING

[RedBird33]

On 11/24/2020 at 11:06 AM, Helaire-ious said:

In that case, I no longer like the MT deal

Ended up trading JJ for 2-1st round picks, Cousins and Gus Edwards.

Made another deal as well. Traded Gibson and a 3rd in '22 for McLaurin and Mixon.

I sacrificed depth this year but in getting Mixon it's a wash and would rather the future picks. I also get McLaurin, who I coveted as much as Thomas.

[Andy Dufresne]

5 minutes ago, RedBird33 said:

Ended up trading JJ for 2-1st round picks, Cousins and Gus Edwards.

Made another deal as well. Traded Gibson and a 3rd in '22 for McLaurin and Mixon.

I sacrificed depth this year but in getting Mixon it's a wash and would rather the future picks. I also get McLaurin, who I coveted as much as Thomas.

Someone paid McLaurin and Mixon for Gibson? Whoa.

[Boston]

14 hours ago, mzkp54 said:

12 team, SF, PPR, 1.5 TE Prem. IDP. Rebuild. 
Gave: Gurley/Hooper/‘22 3rd

Got: late ‘21 1st, ‘22 2nd

Not really understanding this deal...Gurley is fine this year but not a stud and is a time bomb as far as Dynasty is concerned and Hooper is pretty average...in general if you are gonna deal a #1 you either get a legit win now piece or a youngster who has shown enough that you'd rather use the #1 on him because you could do a lot worse in the draft with the unknown factor...really don't understand what this owner is trying to accomplish here. 

[Boston]

Just now, Andy Dufresne said:

Someone paid McLaurin and Mixon for Gibson? Whoa.

I had to read that a few times as well...kept expecting that 22 #3 to turn into a 21 #1 but it never happened.

[RedBird33]

14 hours ago, FreeBaGeL said:

This doesn't seem close to me. MT is a guy with huge question marks at a position where it's painfully easy to get productive guys without major question marks. 

I would take Jacobs over MT pretty easily in PPR. In non-ppr I would have Jacob's >>> MT. 

I agree and that was part of the struggle. MT was an upgrade over DJ but by how much in non-PPR or Performance - throw in the fact that I've giving up a Top 5 RB in all formats and it's clear I'm losing the trade. I posted what I ended up doing above. I'm curious to hear the feedback if any.

My team going forward:

*Wilson/CMC, Chubb, Mixon, Edwards/McLaurin, Lockett, DJ/Engram. Shultz

3-1st round picks in 2021,  one of which will be top 5, the others will be 10-14.

[RedBird33]

5 minutes ago, Andy Dufresne said:

Someone paid McLaurin and Mixon for Gibson? Whoa.

 

4 minutes ago, Boston said:

I had to read that a few times as well...kept expecting that 22 #3 to turn into a 21 #1 but it never happened.

Owner had Jeudy, Claypool and Pittman. He had to trade one or risk losing them in the draft. I also gave him a 3rd in '22.

Not the WR I would've traded but to each his own.

Edited November 25, 2020 by RedBird33
spelling/grammar

[mcintyre1]

12 Team PPR w/ some boosted RB scoring (small points per carry, slightly increased points per rushing yard):

Team A (contending) Gets: Derrick Henry

Team B (rebuilding) Gets: 2021 1st (likely in 2-5 range), 2021 1st (likely in 9-12 range), Courtland Sutton

Edited November 25, 2020 by mcintyre1

[Andy Dufresne]

5 minutes ago, mcintyre1 said:

12 Team PPR w/ some boosted RB scoring (small points per carry, slightly increased points per rushing yard):

Team A (contending) Gets: Derrick Henry

Team B (rebuilding) Gets: 2021 1st (likely in 2-5 range), 2021 1st (likely in 9-12 range), Courtland Sutton

Good for both (I like "go for it" mentality) but that's a steep price/good return.

[kutta]

10 minutes ago, Andy Dufresne said:

Good for both (I like "go for it" mentality) but that's a steep price/good return.

Agreed - I think Henry still has a couple good years left, but if I was rebuilding I'd be tempted to accept that.

[barackdhouse]

4 hours ago, Andy Dufresne said:

Someone paid McLaurin and Mixon for Gibson? Whoa.

They also got a 3rd.

[Andy Dufresne]

2 minutes ago, barackdhouse said:

They also got a 3rd.

Great

[Jail]

18 hours ago, SayWhat? said:

🤢

Do you mean this for the poster or the guy that he just fleeced?

[SayWhat?]

2 minutes ago, Jail said:

Do you mean this for the poster or the guy that he just fleeced?

A future 1st or an inefficient RB on one knee?  That should be 🤢 without saying. 

[Jail]

31 minutes ago, SayWhat? said:

A future 1st or an inefficient RB on one knee?  That should be 🤢 without saying. 

🤣 

Well a couple weeks ago there was some discussion about Gurley vs. Mims, so I guess I thought you might be advocating for Gurley.  Point taken. 

[robb]

I have waited to post this, but decided I'd like your comments on my trade:

I received: Michael Thomas, James Connor & Stafford

I traded away: Dak Prescott, Henderson,-LAR, D.J. Moore & 2021 2nd round pick

I am trying to compete this years, while also keeping an eye on next year. Thoughts?

[Helaire-ious]

29 minutes ago, robb said:

I have waited to post this, but decided I'd like your comments on my trade:

I received: Michael Thomas, James Connor & Stafford

I traded away: Dak Prescott, Henderson,-LAR, D.J. Moore & 2021 2nd round pick

I am trying to compete this years, while also keeping an eye on next year. Thoughts?

PPR? Start 1 QB? Rest of roster? Current record?

[robb]

8 minutes ago, Helaire-ious said:

PPR? Start 1 QB? Rest of roster? Current record?

1/2 PPR, start 1 QB (not Super Flex) Currently at 6-5.

[Helaire-ious]

6 minutes ago, robb said:

1/2 PPR, start 1 QB (not Super Flex) Currently at 6-5.

Assuming you have another viable QB...I like it for you

[smbkrypt24]

1 hour ago, Jail said:

🤣

Well a couple weeks ago there was some discussion about Gurley vs. Mims, so I guess I thought you might be advocating for Gurley.  Point taken. 

one month ago trading Evans for Swift was a major mistake.  Things shift quickly in FF.

[mcintyre1]

9 hours ago, Andy Dufresne said:

Good for both (I like "go for it" mentality) but that's a steep price/good return.

 

8 hours ago, kutta said:

Agreed - I think Henry still has a couple good years left, but if I was rebuilding I'd be tempted to accept that.

Yeah, I'm the rebuilder. RBs are very valuable in this league, so I was afraid I sold too low for what his #'s are, but I've also tried to sell him two years straight and not gotten anything near as close. You can start up to 4 of them and the best ones put up absurd numbers (Henry had 396 as RB3 last year, CMC put up 560 as RB1). I've still got Saquon and traded for JK Dobbins before the season started. It looks like I hit with some later WRs this last draft (Aiyuk in the 2nd, Claypool in the 3rd), so I'm probably going to use all 3 firsts next year on RBs to try to refill the stable if it makes sense. My own pick is likely 1-3 range.

[SieteCinco]

12 Team 1PPR SuperFlex (rookie/Devy combined draft)

Team A: 2021 1st (1.07-1.12)
Team B: Adam Thielen, Laviska Shenault 

[SayWhat?]

2 hours ago, SieteCinco said:

12 Team 1PPR SuperFlex (rookie/Devy combined draft)

Team A: 2021 1st (1.07-1.12)
Team B: Adam Thielen, Laviska Shenault 

Love the side getting the pick in a superflex league, but can see where it would make sense to add Thielen/Shenaukt for that type of pick too.