****OFFICIAL DYNASTY TRADES****

[Dr. Octopus]

1 hour ago, Jonesin For Some Football said:

That is true as well but to think that you can just put those 2 numbers together (in McVay's offense instead of whatever Detroit will do) and Hock will be that is a mistake to me.

I didn’t say that. You said he’s not good for TEs so I pointed out the flaw in that statement.

I do think he’ll see heavy targets though because he’s arguably their best offensive weapon.

[menobrown]

1 hour ago, Dez said:

14 team PPR 1.5 TE

CEH

Chicago def

for

two 2022 1st, 2.14, 3.05, 3.07, 3.14

Just looking a the 2#1's as random I'd rather have CEH, if I thought they were locks to be high I would reconsider.

[Soulfly3]

dynasty ppr

1.03 + 2022 1st for 1.04 + mike evans

[menobrown]

1 hour ago, tangfoot said:

I already know that I’m going to get lambasted for this, but:

Sent: James Robinson

Got: Darnell Mooney

0.75 PPR

Yea I don't like it for you. I have Robinson in some leagues and just planning on holding on. Not getting my hopes up buy maybe he's at least a low end sometimes useful RB2. I think he's pretty unhappy right now and Urban only likes 4/5 star players so I'm mainly holding in hopes it gets to point were Robinson wants out and another team appreciates Robinson more then Urban enough to make a deal.  This coach and player are a bad marriage and I'm just hoping he can get free at some point.

[JoeJoe88]

2 hours ago, tangfoot said:

I already know that I’m going to get lambasted for this, but:

Sent: James Robinson

Got: Darnell Mooney

0.75 PPR

Not by me. I like it. 

[tangfoot]

23 minutes ago, menobrown said:

Yea I don't like it for you. I have Robinson in some leagues and just planning on holding on. Not getting my hopes up buy maybe he's at least a low end sometimes useful RB2. I think he's pretty unhappy right now and Urban only likes 4/5 star players so I'm mainly holding in hopes it gets to point were Robinson wants out and another team appreciates Robinson more then Urban enough to make a deal.  This coach and player are a bad marriage and I'm just hoping he can get free at some point.

Eh. Robinson has two years left and then he’s an RFA

[deadlyrange0321]

12 team PPR 1QB 

Wasn’t involved but interested to see feedback:

Team A trades:

CEH 

1.04

 

Team B trades:

DK Metcalf 

[Jayded]

I've been working on the Pitts owner for almost a year in our Devy league and last night he agreed and hit the button this morning to make things official.

Dynasty, Devy, IDP, PPR (TE Premium, +1 PPR for TE), 6 points all TDs
 

I gave: D'Andre Swift, Robert Woods, Dallas Goedert
I got: Cam Akers, Marvin Jones, Kyle Pitts

He really wanted Swift and I really wanted Pitts and we've been doing this dance a while. Once I upgraded the TE in the deal to Goedert, that was enough to make him pull the trigger. Super happy on my end to finally get Pitts.

[Andy Dufresne]

4 minutes ago, deadlyrange0321 said:

12 team PPR 1QB 

Wasn’t involved but interested to see feedback:

Team A trades:

CEH 

1.04

Team B trades:

DK Metcalf 

I'm down on CEH and I still wouldn't have done this. The Seattle offense is a dangerous one to invest in, unless it's best ball.

3 minutes ago, Jayded said:

I've been working on the Pitts owner for almost a year in our Devy league and last night he agreed and hit the button this morning to make things official.

Dynasty, Devy, IDP, PPR (TE Premium, +1 PPR for TE), 6 points all TDs
 

I gave: D'Andre Swift, Robert Woods, Dallas Goedert
I got: Cam Akers, Marvin Jones, Kyle Pitts

He really wanted Swift and I really wanted Pitts and we've been doing this dance a while. Once I upgraded the TE in the deal to Goedert, that was enough to make him pull the trigger. Super happy on my end to finally get Pitts.

You upgraded your RB and TE positions for, at worst, a slight downgrade at WR. What's not to like?

[kutta]

12 minutes ago, Jayded said:

I've been working on the Pitts owner for almost a year in our Devy league and last night he agreed and hit the button this morning to make things official.

Dynasty, Devy, IDP, PPR (TE Premium, +1 PPR for TE), 6 points all TDs
 

I gave: D'Andre Swift, Robert Woods, Dallas Goedert
I got: Cam Akers, Marvin Jones, Kyle Pitts

He really wanted Swift and I really wanted Pitts and we've been doing this dance a while. Once I upgraded the TE in the deal to Goedert, that was enough to make him pull the trigger. Super happy on my end to finally get Pitts.

I prefer your side by a good deal. As Andy said, I think you upgraded two positions.

[Jayded]

Yeah I was surprised he viewed Akers as a downgrade. I didn't love Swift and when we started talking he didn't either, but his RBs were awful and he fell in love. I liked what I saw at the end of the season out of Akers but my target all along was Pitts. My only "problem" this creates is my WR1 is Ridley so I will figure out if I can make a relatively even or upgrade swap there next if possible before our draft.

[Andy Dufresne]

Just now, Jayded said:

Yeah I was surprised he viewed Akers as a downgrade. I didn't love Swift and when we started talking he didn't either, but his RBs were awful and he fell in love. I liked what I saw at the end of the season out of Akers but my target all along was Pitts. My only "problem" this creates is my WR1 is Ridley so I will figure out if I can make a relatively even or upgrade swap there next if possible before our draft.

Nothing wrong with that either.

[tangfoot]

1 minute ago, Jayded said:

Yeah I was surprised he viewed Akers as a downgrade. I didn't love Swift and when we started talking he didn't either, but his RBs were awful and he fell in love. I liked what I saw at the end of the season out of Akers but my target all along was Pitts. My only "problem" this creates is my WR1 is Ridley so I will figure out if I can make a relatively even or upgrade swap there next if possible before our draft.

Ridley >>>> Woods

[Jonesin For Some Football]

17 hours ago, Dez said:

14 team PPR 1.5 TE

CEH

Chicago def

for

two 2022 1st, 2.14, 3.05, 3.07, 3.14

I'd take the picks here but I can understand going the other way if you felt a RB was the difference maker in contending.

[Jonesin For Some Football]

40 minutes ago, Jayded said:

I've been working on the Pitts owner for almost a year in our Devy league and last night he agreed and hit the button this morning to make things official.

Dynasty, Devy, IDP, PPR (TE Premium, +1 PPR for TE), 6 points all TDs
 

I gave: D'Andre Swift, Robert Woods, Dallas Goedert
I got: Cam Akers, Marvin Jones, Kyle Pitts

He really wanted Swift and I really wanted Pitts and we've been doing this dance a while. Once I upgraded the TE in the deal to Goedert, that was enough to make him pull the trigger. Super happy on my end to finally get Pitts.

This is a great move.  I like Pitts much more than Goedert and Akers over Swift but you can argue that is a wash.  It is nice when a trade comes together after putting in that much work.

[Jonesin For Some Football]

20 minutes ago, Jayded said:

Yeah I was surprised he viewed Akers as a downgrade. I didn't love Swift and when we started talking he didn't either, but his RBs were awful and he fell in love. I liked what I saw at the end of the season out of Akers but my target all along was Pitts. My only "problem" this creates is my WR1 is Ridley so I will figure out if I can make a relatively even or upgrade swap there next if possible before our draft.

Ridley is a really solid WR1 so nothing wrong with that.  I'm sure you can find some depth at WR if needed but I wouldn't look at Ridley as a downer.

[mzkp54]

12 team PPR SF IDP

Got: 
McCaffrey, Christian CAR RB; 
Washington, James PIT WR

Gave: 
Hurts, Jalen PHI QB; 
Crowder, Jamison NYJ WR; 
Year 2021 Draft Pick 1.08; 
Year 2021 Draft Pick 3.09; 
Year 2022 Round 2 Draft Pick

[Jonesin For Some Football]

2 minutes ago, mzkp54 said:

12 team PPR SF IDP

Got: 
McCaffrey, Christian CAR RB; 
Washington, James PIT WR

Gave: 
Hurts, Jalen PHI QB; 
Crowder, Jamison NYJ WR; 
Year 2021 Draft Pick 1.08; 
Year 2021 Draft Pick 3.09; 
Year 2022 Round 2 Draft Pick

I don't play IDP but I would say this seems light for CMC to me.

[Buckna]

31 minutes ago, mzkp54 said:

12 team PPR SF IDP

Got: 
McCaffrey, Christian CAR RB; 
Washington, James PIT WR

Gave: 
Hurts, Jalen PHI QB; 
Crowder, Jamison NYJ WR; 
Year 2021 Draft Pick 1.08; 
Year 2021 Draft Pick 3.09; 
Year 2022 Round 2 Draft Pick

Seems like trade rape to me even in SF.

[JoeJoe88]

1 hour ago, mzkp54 said:

12 team PPR SF IDP

Got: 
McCaffrey, Christian CAR RB; 
Washington, James PIT WR

Gave: 
Hurts, Jalen PHI QB; 
Crowder, Jamison NYJ WR; 
Year 2021 Draft Pick 1.08; 
Year 2021 Draft Pick 3.09; 
Year 2022 Round 2 Draft Pick

So Bill O’Brien is in your fantasy league? 

[Mark Football]

5 hours ago, deadlyrange0321 said:

12 team PPR 1QB 

Wasn’t involved but interested to see feedback:

Team A trades:

CEH 

1.04

 

Team B trades:

DK Metcalf 

Metcalf 

[SayWhat?]

I’m incredibly surprised that people prefer Akers to Swift in ppr.  

[Mark Football]

29 minutes ago, SayWhat? said:

I’m incredibly surprised that people prefer Akers to Swift in ppr.  

I don't agree with it but I'm not surprised. People aren't going to believe Detroit has a fantasy relevant RB until they see it. They'll see it.

[Dez]

5 hours ago, deadlyrange0321 said:

12 team PPR 1QB 

Wasn’t involved but interested to see feedback:

Team A trades:

CEH 

1.04

 

Team B trades:

DK Metcalf 

Sure beats getting 1.06

[Buckna]

6 hours ago, deadlyrange0321 said:

12 team PPR 1QB 

Wasn’t involved but interested to see feedback:

Team A trades:

CEH 

1.04

 

Team B trades:

DK Metcalf 

CEH and the 1.04 for me.

[kutta]

36 minutes ago, Mark Football said:

I don't agree with it but I'm not surprised. People aren't going to believe Detroit has a fantasy relevant RB until they see it. They'll see it.

It's not that I don't believe in Swift, I like him. I just think Akers is primed for an absolutely huge year. I predict that Akers will be a no-brainer top 5 redraft pick in 2022.

[Jonesin For Some Football]

9 minutes ago, kutta said:

It's not that I don't believe in Swift, I like him. I just think Akers is primed for an absolutely huge year. I predict that Akers will be a no-brainer top 5 redraft pick in 2022.

I agree he has a big year and like him more than Swfit but this seems a little much.  I also trust McVay over Campbell by far.

[SayWhat?]

25 minutes ago, kutta said:

It's not that I don't believe in Swift, I like him. I just think Akers is primed for an absolutely huge year. I predict that Akers will be a no-brainer top 5 redraft pick in 2022.

 

16 minutes ago, Jonesin For Some Football said:

I agree he has a big year and like him more than Swfit but this seems a little much.  I also trust McVay over Campbell by far.

Good feedback.  Thanks guys.  I don’t see “huge” upside, especially as it relates to catching the ball.  But that’s what’s fun about this hobby.  Maybe I just see Swift as uber safe, with 70 catch upside and don’t feel quite as confident in Akers despite a couple solid playoff games after a mostly disappointing rookie season.  Should be fun to see how it plays out.  The upside should be there with Stafford in the fold running McVay‘s offense.

Edited May 6, 2021 by SayWhat?

[Edgar]

3 hours ago, SayWhat? said:

I’m incredibly surprised that people prefer Akers to Swift in ppr.  

The problem is the Lions offense won’t score near as many touchdowns as the Rams

[Birdie048]

16 minutes ago, Edgar said:

The problem is the Lions offense won’t score near as many touchdowns as the Rams

But the Lions defense will allow more than the Rams defense thus be playing from behind more often...Garbage time plays favor 3rd Down RB ....

[Dr. Octopus]

3 hours ago, Mark Football said:

I don't agree with it but I'm not surprised. People aren't going to believe Detroit has a fantasy relevant RB until they see it. They'll see it.

Also Akers’ big playoff game is fresh in people’s mind. He really only had one other big regular season game but his value skyrocketed this offseason.

[menobrown]

4 hours ago, SayWhat? said:

I’m incredibly surprised that people prefer Akers to Swift in ppr.  

Had them about even entering the league, a year later still have them about equal.

To me I like Akers a little more in 2021, I like Swift more for the longer term.

[Edgar]

2 hours ago, Birdie048 said:

But the Lions defense will allow more than the Rams defense thus be playing from behind more often...Garbage time plays favor 3rd Down RB ....

It's a funny gameflow predicament we have. The Lions will be behind, which helps Swift receive. The Rams will be close/ahead, which helps Akers get fed. They're both gonna be monsters.

[PantherThunder]

13 hours ago, deadlyrange0321 said:

12 team PPR 1QB 

Wasn’t involved but interested to see feedback:

Team A trades:

CEH 

1.04

 

Team B trades:

DK Metcalf 

I think I would take the CEH side. I think would like a little more in return then Metcalf. 

[travdogg]

On 5/5/2021 at 10:03 AM, Birdie048 said:

Another deal....  12 Team 0.5 PPR, 1 QB  (TE 1.0 PPR - I JUST LEARNED THIS!! )

I gave up 1.01 and 2.05 

I received Phi RB Miles Sanders & Det TE TJ Hockenson 

 

 

This feels like a solid deal to me. I think Sanders is a little underrated, and is a very solid post-hype guy. Gainwell is zero threat, and Hurts could be a sizable upgrade for the offense overall. 

I'd probably value the 1.1 slightly more than Sanders, but Hockenson is worth a lot more than the 2.5. 

13 hours ago, deadlyrange0321 said:

12 team PPR 1QB 

Wasn’t involved but interested to see feedback:

Team A trades:

CEH 

1.04

 

Team B trades:

DK Metcalf 

I think this is worth it for Metcalf. I don't think CEH is cut out to ever be a true RB1, I hated that pick when KC made it, and the 1.4 is likely either Pitts or a WR who has a lower ceiling than Metcalf. I may be slightly biased, as I've always been a monster Metcalf fan. But he's got WR1 overall upside to me.

13 hours ago, Jayded said:

I've been working on the Pitts owner for almost a year in our Devy league and last night he agreed and hit the button this morning to make things official.

Dynasty, Devy, IDP, PPR (TE Premium, +1 PPR for TE), 6 points all TDs
 

I gave: D'Andre Swift, Robert Woods, Dallas Goedert
I got: Cam Akers, Marvin Jones, Kyle Pitts

He really wanted Swift and I really wanted Pitts and we've been doing this dance a while. Once I upgraded the TE in the deal to Goedert, that was enough to make him pull the trigger. Super happy on my end to finally get Pitts.

I can see both sides of this one. I guess it depends on how big of a hole they had at WR, and how much of a contender they are. I think Woods/Jones is probably the biggest difference in talent among the swaps.

That said, I think Akers>Swift and Pitts>>Goedert.

[menobrown]

14 hours ago, deadlyrange0321 said:

12 team PPR 1QB 

Wasn’t involved but interested to see feedback:

Team A trades:

CEH 

1.04

 

Team B trades:

DK Metcalf 

CEH/4 side to me and not very close.

[FreshiZ]

4 hours ago, menobrown said:

CEH/4 side to me and not very close.

Wow, as a CEH owner I'll take Metcalf

 

[Boston]

20 hours ago, deadlyrange0321 said:

12 team PPR 1QB 

Wasn’t involved but interested to see feedback:

Team A trades:

CEH 

1.04

 

Team B trades:

DK Metcalf 

If you want Metcalf you are not gonna get him without stepping up...a lot of this depends on what your roster looks like but I have zero issues doing this if I wanted to add DKM as it's definitely not an overpay...I am not real high on CEH so I don't mind giving him up at all...don't know how the draft goes but if Chase-Pitts-Najee go in the first three picks than I would love this deal even more as the new DK Owner...unless CEH turns into a legit difference-maker (and he did not look like one last year) I think this is a pretty safe deal to get Metcalf...I also feel that if you needed to deal Metcalf at a later date I think you should at least get back in value what you gave up here.

Edited May 7, 2021 by Boston

[Birdie048]

A couple more trades went down this week in my league .... 0.5 PPR / TE 1.0 PPR  1 QB / 1-3 RB / 2-5 WR / 1-2 TE 

Not involved in these .....

Team A gave up DK Metcalf & 2022 2nd (late?)

Team B gave up 1.03 

 

Team C gave up Mike Evans & 2022 1st (mid?)

Team D gave up Zeke 

 

Team D gave up Jalen Reagor & 2022 1st (no idea)

Team E gave up Antonio Gibson

[Boston]

32 minutes ago, Birdie048 said:

A couple more trades went down this week in my league .... 0.5 PPR / TE 1.0 PPR  1 QB / 1-3 RB / 2-5 WR / 1-2 TE 

Not involved in these .....

Team A gave up DK Metcalf & 2022 2nd (late?)

Team B gave up 1.03 

 

Team C gave up Mike Evans & 2022 1st (mid?)

Team D gave up Zeke 

 

Team D gave up Jalen Reagor & 2022 1st (no idea)

Team E gave up Antonio Gibson

Yuck on the first one...the extra 2nd is comical, Team B has a future in sales...not a fan of giving up a future 1 for Zeke just in case he is hitting the wall but if you are a RB away I get it because I am not an Evans fan...just need to make sure you have Pollard as well...I would give that up to get Gibson...don't see Reagor ever being a stud and you have a year to get back another #1, that's a real nice deal for a potential stud RB...not sure what Team E is trying to accomplish here.

[Dr. Octopus]

8 minutes ago, Boston said:

Yuck on the first one...the extra 2nd is comical, Team B has a future in sales...

It's hysterical that he got that 2nd thrown into what was already a major major win for him. I'll try to be excellent and not comment on Team A's mental capacity.

[Hankmoody]

Very surprised at the thoughts on Akers.  I think McVay learned his lesson about eggs and baskets from Gurley and is now a full on RBBC-lover.  I see a huge split here and maybe even a game-to-game role flip if he tries to out-think opponents.  If Akers is getting this kind of love I need to get him on the block. 

I'll take CEH/1.04 over Metcalf in most leagues but it's close and individual team need could sway me.

[Dr. Octopus]

Just now, Hankmoody said:

Very surprised at the thoughts on Akers.  I think McVay learned his lesson about eggs and baskets from Gurley and is now a full on RBBC-lover.  I see a huge split here and maybe even a game-to-game role flip if he tries to out-think opponents.  If Akers is getting this kind of love I need to get him on the block. 

I agree. People are overlooking Henderson who actually outperformed Akers most weeks.

[JohnnyU]

5 minutes ago, Dr. Octopus said:

I agree. People are overlooking Henderson who actually outperformed Akers most weeks.

I thought we moved past this Henderson thing.  From what I saw down the stretch Akers is "the guy".

[BigAl21]

2 minutes ago, JohnnyU said:

I thought we moved past this Henderson thing.  From what I saw down the stretch Akers is "the guy".

Akers owners have blindly moved past this Henderson thing but reality might tell us otherwise.I own no shares of Akers and only a lonely share of Henderson but I’m baffled at the crowning of Akers already..

[Dr. Octopus]

2 minutes ago, JohnnyU said:

I thought we moved past this Henderson thing.  From what I saw down the stretch Akers is "the guy".

He had one big game, a few mediocre games and a HUGE stinker in Week 17. I do not own either RB, but I'm not sure why "we" moved past Henderson when he performed just as well for most of the season as the offseason darling Akers.

[JohnnyU]

Just now, BigAl21 said:

Akers owners have blindly moved past this Henderson thing but reality might tell us otherwise.I own no shares of Akers and only a lonely share of Henderson but I’m baffled at the crowning of Akers already..

Not sure why you're baffled, because it seemed pretty clear who the main RB was and it was Akers.  I'm one of those Henderson guys who fought tooth and nail for him, but unlike some, I know when I'm defeated.

[humpback]

44 minutes ago, Dr. Octopus said:

He had one big game, a few mediocre games and a HUGE stinker in Week 17. I do not own either RB, but I'm not sure why "we" moved past Henderson when he performed just as well for most of the season as the offseason darling Akers.

That HUGE stinker came when he played with a high ankle sprain (the same injury that landed Henderson on IR). I think he deserves a pass on that one.

When you see what happened the last ~6 weeks of their season it's hard to come away thinking anything but this is Akers' backfield. Henderson will have a role, but he'll be playing 2nd fiddle.

[Dr. Octopus]

Just now, humpback said:

That HUGE stinker came when he played with a high ankle sprain (the same injury that landed Henderson on IR). I think he deserves a pass on that one.

When you see what happened the last ~6 weeks of their season it's hard to come away thinking anything but this is Akers' backfield. Henderson will have a role, but he'll be playing 2nd fiddle.

I actually agree with the bolded - I just don't think Henderson is going away though like some seem to think.

[humpback]

5 minutes ago, Dr. Octopus said:

I actually agree with the bolded - I just don't think Henderson is going away though like some seem to think.

I don't see anyone saying that Henderson is going away, but I do see some suggesting a full on split, which you "liked".

This is a high-powered offense that got better with Stafford, and 124 RB touches were freed up by not bring Brown back. The last 6 weeks showed a very clear trend, so while nothing is guaranteed, it certainly seems like Akers is poised to have a huge year as the lead RB even with Henderson getting his ~8-10 touches per game.