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RB Alex Collins, SEA (3 Viewers)
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matuski
Footballguy
I'd prefer Seattle's options to either of these, but along those lines I have indeed made no effort to chase Seattle backs.. I'd describe those backfields as clear backs NOT to own.
eta - obviously if you are in a desperate position, these backfields might offer some hope if they ever settle.
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Weebs210
Footballguy
Well that's why we play the game. At least I am able to grab these guys for free based on others doubt.
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shadyridr
Footballguy
It's been years since any Giants rb had any value.
Best choice is none of the above. Next best is Vereen. But Gallman is the shiny new toy, so he's the one getting the attention.
Just my take.
Weebs210
Footballguy
Do you ever go after lotto tickets or are you completely against them? I see you in every lotto RB threads advocating against them.
BustedKnuckles
Footballguy
the next Samkon Gado
My bench is 1 WR and 7 RBs.
Demaryius Thomas
Martin
Coleman
Cohen
Murray
Collins
McFadden
Rawls
So far I've owned and dropped duke Johnson, Lewis, Burkhead, Breida, Smallwood, Charles, Chris Johnson, and probably a few others I've forgotten.
I'm a RB lotto ticket hoarder.
Just not a Gallman believer.
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SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
Biabreakable
Footballguy
I disagree with this.BustedKnuckles said:
Collins demonstrates a lot more skill and ability than Gado who to me was just a guy (as much as I hate using that term).
Biabreakable
Footballguy
Why did you drop Duke Johnson?davearm said:
To grab Murray.
In retrospect I might have dropped someone else instead but that was the transaction.
Standard league.
Biabreakable
Footballguy
Standard scoring does change things in regard to Duke.
Someone dropped him in another league I am in as well so you are not alone there.
Biabreakable
Footballguy
Over 4 weeks Duke Johnson is RB 20 in standard scoring averaging 9.6 points per game. He was useless in week one of the season with only 2 points, week two he had 8 points, week 3 16.4 points week 4 12 points.
He has performed as a RB 2 in standard format.
In PPR he is better RB 16 over the first four weeks. He has scored similarly to Lamar Miller and LeSean McCoy in PPR format.
Wow guess I haven't been paying attn and letting my own bias for how I viewed him in preseason cloud me. Didn't realize he is rb20. In standard. I have zero shares and pay zero attn to him or crow.
Biabreakable
Footballguy
He only has 57 rushing yards over four games which is not good although he has only had 10 rushing attempts. He has scored two TD.
As a receiver he has 28 targets 20 receptions and 207 yards. 10.4 yards per reception is well above average for a RB (around 7 yards on average).
Duke Johnson has been one of the better receiving RB in the league in his short career so far.
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Weebs210
Footballguy
Let's see if he keeps getting one yard touch downs in blow outs. I have a good feeling he will drop out of top 30 standard very very soon.
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Biabreakable
Footballguy
Could.
I know Hue Jackson has a point of view that a larger RB is better when it gets cold. Which to me is completely illogical, but Hue seems to believe in this. See Giovanni Bernard vs Jeremy Hill with the Bengals.
In my view Duke Johnson is a better RB than Crowell just as I think Bernard is a better RB than Hill. But my opinion doesn't matter much when the coach has a different view.
beerponger
Footballguy
Is this the Vereen, Gallman, Duke Johnson, or just want to hear myself text thread...or Collins? A full page of private conversations. Yay.
Am I crazy for starting him (standard league) in my flex over mccaffery? Marvin jones? John brown? Brown vs philly is really tempting. I'm feeling a long td.
But I'm also feeling that this week could be a breakout game for collins. Like 15-20 carries in a good game script. Ej Manuel isn't doing much today. I see a grind it out game bw 2 crap teams.
I have a good feeling about collins in general. Good college player. Getting his shot and looks so electric every time he touches the ball. I think the only thing that can derail him today is another fumble.
But I'm also feeling that this week could be a breakout game for collins. Like 15-20 carries in a good game script. Ej Manuel isn't doing much today. I see a grind it out game bw 2 crap teams.
I have a good feeling about collins in general. Good college player. Getting his shot and looks so electric every time he touches the ball. I think the only thing that can derail him today is another fumble.
SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
It's not just Collins or the coaches' views of the RBs, the offense as a whole has to be better. Another round of Flacco flopping around and the D getting beat isn't going to help anyone.
Chaka
Footballguy
True. Of course a reliable running game would go a long way towards that end.
Still think people aren't concerned enough about the quality, or lack thereof, of the offensive line. They lost their best player and look like a bottom 10 unit right now.
shadrap
Footballguy
agreed & your comment about Flaco "flopping around" is not only funny but spot on.
shadrap
Footballguy
DocHolliday
Footballguy
Stompin' Tom Connors
Footballguy
You and everyone else in here.
The good news is that we will have some more clarity about Collins vs all the other lotto guys (Gallman, Rawls/Lacy, McKinnon/Murray, McGuire, etc. etc. etc.) after this week.
The bad news...I'm not willing to even think about what happens if Collins fumbles again right now.
Need a solid start from Collins today, so choo f'n choo, butterhands notwithstanding.
Weebs210
Footballguy
Hope you are not basing line up or roster decision based on yahoo projections. Starting Collins over Gallman this week.
pghrob
Hail to the Chief
I just dropped Allen for Gallman so the coin toss for my 2nd rb this week is Collins or Gallman.
Judge Smails
Footballguy
Expectations are low for both Collins and Lacy. If I'm pleasantly surprised by either great. If not I take the loss, move on and go to plan C. Which may mean more golf on Sunday's
beerbuff
Footballguy
I'm doing the opposite, I'm going to roll with Gallman. I'm worried that Collins fumbles early and then puts up a goose egg. He does have a higher ceiling than Gallman but I'm going with the higher floor with Perkins out.
BustedKnuckles
Footballguy
I've also been debating this all week, made the switch to Collins based off the dreaded "Hot hand" approach in ny and with it being rainy and wet, seems to be a darkwa kind of game.
SameSongNDance
Footballguy
I'm going Collins over Gallman despite Gallman having the better match-up. It comes down to the fact that I believe BAL is more willing to hand the reigns over to Collins at this point. If Collins doesn't fumble I could see him getting 15-20 touches. I have no idea how NYG plans to divy out touches between Gallman, Darkwa and Vereen. Darkwa wasn't active last week.
LionOfGosforth
Footballguy
Would you start Collins over Jones (GB) too? I've been wrestling with who to start between Collins, Gallman and Jones all week. Gallman seems to have uncertainty over workload, Collins with the fumbling, have not seen Jones run.
SameSongNDance
Footballguy
With the news that Jones has been taking first team reps ahead of Williams I'd probably start Jones over Collins but it's close, as are all of the decisions with these murky backfeilds.
LionOfGosforth
Footballguy
Agreed and murky is about the best way to describe it. I usually much prefer to use my own eye test but since i've only seen Collins on highlights, and Jones not even that, difficult. I guess today will shed more light
Stompin' Tom Connors
Footballguy
Was there actually hype around Gado? Seem to remember that he just came out of nowhere after Ahman Green and Najeh "Don't Look in the Hamper" Davenport went down and the guy posted like 3+ 100 yard games with multiple TDs. Kinda became a must own/must start until he himself went down with a knee injury for the season.
The guy got his chance that year and simply blew the doors open, then was traded to the Texans to be the backup there, then as bench/backup depth on Miami.
Seemed like a guy that was critical add in 2005 and proved every inch of it, but then was clearly fantasy irrelevant afterwards -- not like there was any hype or even a chance for him to be meaningful for fantasy teams thereafter. So not sure there was any hype, as opposed to a glorious multi-week span in 2005 where he was by far worth his weight in wire gold.
TripleThreat
Footballguy
Pairing Collins with Ellington over Gallman & Ameer.
Jeez my RBs are awful :( at least Ingram comes off the bye next week
Jeez my RBs are awful :( at least Ingram comes off the bye next week
