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RB Alex Collins, SEA (2 Viewers)
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JoeSteeler
Footballguy
30 yard run gives him 7-48 so far
SameSongNDance
Footballguy
Why is he so good though?
Rove!
Footballguy
Weebs210
Footballguy
TripleThreat
Footballguy
The Frankman
Footballguy
Seemingly ignored him last 2 drives.
Rove!
Footballguy
The Frankman
Footballguy
The Frankman
Footballguy
Collins is just ripping off chunk gains...
I agree with the vision responses. I thought Waldman's video, which was probably mentioned upthread, was convincing, especially watching alongside your videos.
Stompin' Tom Connors
Footballguy
What are you, some kind of time traveller? Nice progno
Obviously hard to call TDs, so you get a pass there, but you were spot on with usage and yardage -- 15-74 for the day.
And most importantly...no fumbles.
Stompin' Tom Connors
Footballguy
This Raven is making me eat crow.
Really highlighted in that 30 yard rip.
(Apologies, this is on YT so it may eventually get blocked, but only link I could find right now.)
JoeSteeler
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Stompin' Tom Connors
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SaintsInDome2006
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Biabreakable
Footballguy
Biabreakable
Footballguy
beerbuff
Footballguy
It opens up the playbook when there is a danger of your early down RB catching passes out of the backfield.
Sarlakticacid
Footballguy
Stompin' Tom Connors
Footballguy
Wondering if you try and look to sell high (likely as a package)?
Overall usage, Woodhead, and Harbaugh still a factor.
Overall usage, Woodhead, and Harbaugh still a factor.
SameSongNDance
Footballguy
Utilization: 7 > 9 > 11 > 12 > 15
Snaps: 12% > 17% > 25% > 24 % > 30%
In maths, we call that a trend.
Snaps: 12% > 17% > 25% > 24 % > 30%
In maths, we call that a trend.
I said late last week that if his carries hit 15 that’s huge.
Big time potential in the second half of the season. Just no fumbling!!!!
Chaka
Footballguy
Agreed.
But getting West & Woodhead back will probably #### that up. And even without them he is, so far, non-existent in the passing game or near the goal line. He's close to ripping off a long TD but that cannot be relied upon.
Now may be a good time to use SSND's utilization argument to try and deal him in redraft leagues because it looks unlikely that his upside is that of a Kingmaker.
He did his now patented move of going for it on 4th down, in FG range, even though they need a FG and TD to win. They actually got the 1st down this time but a couple plays later Flacco threw an INT. Now if they kick the FG, they are down 7 instead of still down 10. They can go for it the next series....instead of kicking the FG then (which they did
) and they would have actually won the game in regulation with the TD they scored late. Instead, they ran out of time before they could get Tucker close enough to try another FG. Classic moron Harbug. He's so stupid it's mind boggling.Tucker has to be thinking, this guy is so stupid.
Mr. Irrelevant
IBL Representative
I was early to this party but I fear you may be right. If he couldn't top 30% usage yesterday in a fairly close game with West and Woodhead both out, you have to ask yourself what his realistic ceiling is likely to be.
A nice bye-week fill-in? Absolutely. But that's not what I'm looking for out of my back-end-of-bench dart throws..
Hankmoody
Footballguy
He's a pretty good speculative shop for dynasty leagues. Offer him to a 1-5 team for Larry Fitzgerald. It probably doesn't get done straight up but can be the lynchpin piece.
Chaka
Footballguy
He's probably a much easier sale in dynasty but I am talking redraft.
I might make a play for Amari Cooper, whose stock simply cannot be any lower, because that owner has Lynch, Forte, Ellington and Lacy as his only RBs.
I have also floated an offer for Doug Baldwin because that owner has McGuire, Crowell, Gillislee & Breida as his RBs (A.Brown, Kelce & DeSean are his other WRs).
I doubt either owner will bite but I am definitely trying to move him.
Tommy Collins
Footballguy
My thoughts on this exactly. I believe I'm dropping him in my short bench league. The offense is a mess, the backfield is too much of a timeshare, and West and Woodhead will be back in the picture at some point. I like the kid, but I think 2018 is when his impact will likely be felt.Mr. Irrelevant said:
Tommy Collins
Footballguy
Well as I mentioned it's a short bench league (and very unique: 12 team, QB, QB, RB, RB, WR, WR, WR, TE, TE, FLEX, K, K, DEF, DEF, IDP, only 5 bench). My reasonings really won't help anybody else in here because of the uniqueness to this league. I have 5 bench spots, so 2 are taken up by a QB and TE. I have to drop K, DEF and IDP on bye weeks and find a FA to hold me over. That leaves only 3 bench spots for RB/WR. Tough to justify holding Alex in one of those 3 spots.
Chaka
Footballguy
Have a claim in for Darkwa, debating Dion Lewis if I don't get Darkwa but I would probably stick with Collins.
Both are good options... neither are available in my league (12 teams, 16 players each).
SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
Weebs210
Footballguy
People who drop him this week are going to be mad at themselves in the near future.
Chaka
Footballguy
Impressive work. His utilization has also gone up every week. Wish they used him near the goal line or in the passing game. The latter seems increasingly unlikely with Woodhead eventually returning, the former...? I guess we can all hope.
Stompin' Tom Connors
Footballguy
Last I heard, they were targeting a Week 11 return for Woodhead. That timetable could change or update, but seems to me to still be enough time for the patient owner for Collins to have one or two breakout games and cement himself at a higher utilization level.
Yes, I'm grasping. But stranger things happen.
Yes, I'm grasping. But stranger things happen.
Chaka
Footballguy
There is a lot to like about watching this guy run and his increased utilization. I hope we haven't seen his high water mark with 15 touches but it's possible. Anyone know what West's timetable to return is? Last update I read said "multiple games" even so it is tough to like the match-up in Minnesota. The Dolphins seem like a better opportunity as do the Titans but those games are two and three weeks away followed by the Ravens bye week. The schedule looks a little easier after the bye but presumably West and Woodhead both return week 11
So what are the realistic expectations for Collins ROS? As much as I want to believe this kid could be a King Maker I just don't see how the stars could align to make that happen.
Hope I'm wrong...unless I drop him tonight.
