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If you called it beforehand, great -- I'm not keeping score, and looks like you were right.
Maybe you weren't following the thread, some of the Bibbs hype was out of control.
Was following the thread, thanks though. Yes, hype may have been out of control. My point was that that hype was understandable, if not justified. Bibbs was uniformly across all sites a high FA target after last weekend as a handcuff to Booker and a guy who could potentially see more action if Booker continued to flail.
Disagree with the first part, I think Booker looked decent today when he had some room. Seem to have most success off-tackle and looked speedy on multiple 7-9 yard runs through the game.
Not exactly a strong outting especially considering the caliber of defense of the Saints (or lack thereof).
behind the worst OL in the league, i'm not so sure about this considering the knock on Bibbs has tended to be pass pro
You should stop citing yards per carry over very small sample sizes as having any meaning whatsoever. Because it really doesn't.
Yes, Cecil Lammey tweet on Nov 8:
I'm feeling pretty crappy about him in general. I almost started him but went with thielen instead.
I agree with this. I think his matchups really hurt him and expectations were high. I agree that he can still achieve those. this week will be a big test
At least the volume is there. I think any worry about Bibbs taking away work has been overstated. 48 carries for him the last 2 games.
It was interesting reading this because it was how I felt at the start of the season when CJ Anderson was the Booker and Booker was the Bibbs. I own both players in various leagues so I was following their usage early on and it seemed to me that CJ was better but they were forcing Booker into what seemed to be weird spots. I concluded that they must have really liked Booker and they wanted to force him in. Now it just seems that Denver picks what appear to be weird times to insert the backup. I really have no idea what to expect next year between CJ and Booker but Booker sure hasn't run away with the job since CJ went down. High volume of touches with mediocre results.
This was when CJ was averaging 2.4 ypc and Book over 5 for a 5 week stretch?? Yea CJ looked better lmao
Do you just make this stuff up?
Yep. I also thought Anderson looked much better and didn't get why Booker was getting so much run.
It's mostly because Booker on a number of runs looked like a freight train coming out of the backfield and was picking up 8,9,10 yards at a clip while Anderson seemed to be wiggling around and picking up meager gains.
Locked in as my RB3 (multiple flex spot league) with Ajayi planted firmly on the bench. Volume should get me the double-digit production I need for that spot. If he can get a TD it'll be gravy. At some point he's bound to score another touchdown again.
Considering him at Flex along with Desean Jackson. I've got Ingram and Howard plugged in to my RB spots.
Don't wanna turn this into a WDIS thread but I've got DJax as well. Watching the Peterson injury situation real closely. Currently sitting DJax even though he's rolling right now but if Peterson is gimpy all week I'll probably fire DJax back up and start him. DJax is definitely a guy you wanna start when he's in a groove and he's in one now. But if Peterson's looking healthier I am worried because I would think they'd match Peterson on DJax rather than Garcon. At least that's what I'd do if I was Arians.
Yeah I think this is very bad news. Lynch was horrible in Week 5. I would think the Jags load up to stop Booker and force Lynch to try and beat their good pass defense with his arm. I'm likely gonna bench Booker for Ajayi which really sucks because Ajayi is facing the Ravens. Ugh.
Well, if 10 points is the ceiling I'm not very interested.
I'm just guessing. Maybe Lynch has really improved since the Falcons game but he sure stunk in that start.
Lol. We must have the same team. Have the same debate each week except swap your Ware for my K. Dixon.
This can actually be good news for Booker. In that Atlanta game Anderson and Booker got 10 targets.
Do we have the same team - Booker, DT and Ajayi.
I'm thinking the opposite of you, though with Booker and Thomas. DT is locked into his targets. He's getting about 8 or so every single game so I don't think that changes. He also caught a TD from Lynch in Week 5. I also think the Jags are going to come out and load up the box and force Lynch to throw it which is going to make things really tough on Booker, make that tougher since the Broncos' O line stinks already.Personally I would sit Ajay and am sitting him for what I view as inferior option to Booker.Do we have the same team - Booker, DT and Ajayi.
i think Thomas has a floor of around 10-12 points in PPR which I'll take. Booker's could be sub-10 if they can't get the running game going. Could he get some receptions? Yes that's possible but in Week 5 in Lynch's first start the Broncos' couldn't run at all so even if he gets some receptions the lack of run game production could hurt him significantly. I think he's going to need a TD to come through no matter what this week without Siemian in all probability unless he breaks a big gain.
Also, one thing to keep in mind about all those Week 5 RB receptions is the Broncos were trailing in that game. That may not be the case on Sunday. In fact if the game plays according to script the Broncos should be playing from the front, even if it's a low-scoring game. I'm not sure the RBs will be needed to catch a ton of passes, at least not as many as Anderson and Booker were catching in Week 5 anyway. One other note - Booker has only had more than two receptions in a game once in the past six games. It's not like he has a huge role in the Denver passing game. So I don't think anyone should be penciling him for huge reception totals. Now he should be getting more given how good of a receiver he is and how good he is in the open field but Kubiak doesn't seem inclined to utilize him more there so based on recent game history there's nothing to indicate that's going to change.
Personally, I think Thomas is the safer play between the two. Right now I've got Ajayi in over Booker although his matchup is God awful I might end up going back to Booker before 1 ET on Sunday. I'm not crazy about either one of these situations right now and this being Week 13 isn't making any of this any more appealing.
I agree with most of this but in order to be true it basically has to be a very low scoring game with a lot of punting. that's a bold prediction. there's about a dozen ways for this to go, and the only scenario for this to be true (outside of Booker being benched for bibbs and bibbs exploding) is that Lynch in fact does beat Jacksonville with his arm and Jacksonville fails to change their stack the box approach. Booker is ineffective running the ball so Denver doesn't put up a lot of points. if Denver does put up a lot of points one would assume Jacksonville would change defenses and thay would open up the running game.Do we have the same team - Booker, DT and Ajayi.
i think Thomas has a floor of around 10-12 points in PPR which I'll take. Booker's could be sub-10 if they can't get the running game going. Could he get some receptions? Yes that's possible but in Week 5 in Lynch's first start the Broncos' couldn't run at all so even if he gets some receptions the lack of run game production could hurt him significantly. I think he's going to need a TD to come through no matter what this week without Siemian in all probability unless he breaks a big gain.
Also, one thing to keep in mind about all those Week 5 RB receptions is the Broncos were trailing in that game. That may not be the case on Sunday. In fact if the game plays according to script the Broncos should be playing from the front, even if it's a low-scoring game. I'm not sure the RBs will be needed to catch a ton of passes, at least not as many as Anderson and Booker were catching in Week 5 anyway. One other note - Booker has only had more than two receptions in a game once in the past six games. It's not like he has a huge role in the Denver passing game. So I don't think anyone should be penciling him for huge reception totals. Now he should be getting more given how good of a receiver he is and how good he is in the open field but Kubiak doesn't seem inclined to utilize him more there so based on recent game history there's nothing to indicate that's going to change.
Personally, I think Thomas is the safer play between the two. Right now I've got Ajayi in over Booker although his matchup is God awful I might end up going back to Booker before 1 ET on Sunday. I'm not crazy about either one of these situations right now and this being Week 13 isn't making any of this any more appealing.
no, can't help. I am concerned but not enough to bench him given my options. I think his value lies a lot in receptions this week tbh. how they adapt without their fb will be interesting to see
