Inspiration goes both ways, so you need to also have a likeable candidate who doesn't inspire votes against, which happened on both sides in 2016. Sanders would've beaten Trump. The debates would've been epic.
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Bernie Sanders HQ! *A decent human being. (1 Viewer)
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Gawain
Footballguy
Bernie and Trump were the two most inspiring candidates in the candidate pool. Perhaps the Cult of Personality candidates.
With that in mind it's not that surprising that so many Bernie Bros crossed over to the Trump Train.
https://www.npr.org/2017/08/24/545812242/1-in-10-sanders-primary-voters-ended-up-supporting-trump-survey-finds
It's about inspiration and a lot of that is getting people to buy into something greater than themselves, whether it's lifting up the poor or building a wall.
sho nuff
Footballguy
Really wish he was a tad younger...and didn't have the stigma of his "socialism".
Would make a quality leader.
And so many great parody opportunities (Larry Davis would be booked forever).
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The General
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I do love listening to Bernie talk about the issues.
skol asylum
Footballguy
Bernie/Kennedy 2020
He can teach the young guy the force.
He can teach the young guy the force.
NCCommish
Footballguy
I look at so.many of these posts and peoolenstill don't get it. Still claiming Bernie is to liberal despite the fact that pol after poll shows strong to majority support for his policy prescriptions . He is the most popular politician in America and those polled are fully aware of the socialism tag and his age. When will you get it? The American people are tired of this circus that is designed by the wealthy for the wealthy and of the wealthy? They are over it. They are over being ignored. They tried sending a message already its been lafgely ignored and misunderstood. And it will be reflected in battles at the ballot box in 2018.
sublimeone
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I am honestly baffled by the support Bernie continues to get. Can one of you guys give me your favorite policy prescription he's advocating?
Hilts
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Henry Ford
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AAABatteries
Footballguy
- Free College/Trade School (or at least addressing runaway costs and helping to get higher education for more people)
- Healthcare
- Raising the Minimum Wage
- Closing loopholes for Corporations in the Tax code
- Citizens United
AAABatteries
Footballguy
Hell, just the fact that he's basically the only one who consistently highlights the wealth discrepancy between the top 1% and the rest is a good start for me. Most politicians don't even address it because frequently they are in the 1%.
Henry Ford
Footballguy
I've said before and I'll say again, if Trump gets Medicare for All passed, I'll buy a MAGA hat and attend rallies. It's the single most important issue in the country in my opinion.
skol asylum
Footballguy
Being a decent honest human being is his #1 policy prescription for me.sublimeone said:
The Commish
Footballguy
Furthering education to help individuals compete in the global market the corporations supposedly need help competing in. It's nice to have the people focused every once and a while.sublimeone said:
msudaisy26
Footballguy
I could listen to him all day. BigSteelThrill
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urbanhack
Fight The Power!
#### this guy...he is a waste of oxygen and life.
https://twitter.com/search?q="Dinesh D'Souza"&src=tren
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Leeroy Jenkins
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Hilts
Footballguy
How dare a politician constantly mention their main point in an easy to remember little catchphrase. That will never work in this day and age. We need difficult to digest, long winded and extremely nuanced statements for the news clips.
AAABatteries
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Leeroy Jenkins
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You cannot lay everything at the feet of the 1%.
Hilts
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Hilts
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Shout out to Bernie for helping close to 10,000 Disneyland employees win their labor fight that had been going on months. He spoke in Anaheim last month and wrote an op-ed in The Guardian criticizing the company for its low wages. Disneyland has now agreed to pay its employees 15 or more an hour.
Ramblin Wreck
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Mister CIA
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Radio Free Homer
Footballguy
I suppose it would be out of the question for them to make a slightly smaller profit?
Ramblin Wreck
Footballguy
I’m saying I doubt they do and they will pass the cost on even though they already print money.
bagger
Footballguy
They will do whatever is optimal for shareholders. If they can make more profit increasing prices to consumers they will. If they need to cut expenses elsewhere they will.
Or if they just have to make a little less money in theme parks maybe they then add an ancillary service (streaming competitor to Netflix) to make the overall enterprise more profitable.
You know, just being a business.
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AAABatteries
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If the price of DL tickets goes up and some people are priced out of going but it allows DL employees to have a living wage then I still consider it a good thing. Sure some kids will miss out on the experience but ultimately this is a good example of income redistribution. It may not be coming from the top of the food chain but I have no doubt that if Disney increases prices and they see a drop off in attendance that costs them money that they would do something about it.
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at Bernie in 2020. He is way too old.
Politician Spock
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I'd like to see businesses pay a tax based on the percentage of their employees who make poverty level income.
The government is already subsidizing poverty incomes anyway. Might as well make the businesses paying #### wages pay for those subsidies.
The government is already subsidizing poverty incomes anyway. Might as well make the businesses paying #### wages pay for those subsidies.
SaintsInDome2006
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It might be disappointing but I’m thinking Warren will definitely run and I think her and Sanders will be splitting votes. Just a thought but if Warren runs it might be best if Sanders sits out.
Long Ball Larry
Footballguy
My thought as well. Costs eleventy billion dollars already, doubt anyone will notice whatever % increase.Gr00vus said:
Mystery Achiever
Footballguy
My thought is that he won't run, but more looking to influence policy and have a role as king maker.
msudaisy26
Footballguy
So let's continue to punish the workers. Not the company that already has insane prices and profits and pays their employees low wages.
Ramblin Wreck
Footballguy
I didn't say a word about not paying the workers. I commented on the company and the customers.
Bruce Dickinson
Footballguy
This is a really interesting idea. No shtick. If we want businesses to pay their employees a living wage, give them a financial (dis)incentive to do so.
Would this just increase the costs to the business and thus make them more likely to eliminate/automate jobs, but without giving those employees the benefit of higher wages? Or is the thought that the businesses would just increase wages so they do not pay the tax?
Bruce Dickinson
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Internal Disney research revealed DLR Annual Passholders and other high-frequency attendees were fine with paying more for park tickets if it would thin crowds out a little and make attraction lines a little shorter.
Star Wars Land will open at DLR months ahead of the WDW opening. They know they will shatter DLR attendance records when Star Wars Land opens and they have known this for a couple years. If setting their starting pay at $15/hour draws and retains better staff, that will help them. Disney’s base will trade a higher price for a better experience every time.
msudaisy26
Footballguy
I am not mad at you or calling you out. I quoted you because you were the first person to say they might raise prices.
Bruce Dickinson
Footballguy
I don’t know. The thought hadn’t even crossed my mind until I read it a few minutes ago. But IMO it’s an idea worth considering, even if ultimately rejected. IMO it’s an interesting alternative to trying to set a national minimum wage.
It may turn out a BIG would accomplish the same goal more efficiently, but it’s an idea worth workshopping a bit.
I agree it is though-provoking.
We know that raising the minimum wage creates some amount of loss of jobs because of the additional costs/incentives for employers. However, the remaining employees will have higher wages.
We can envision a tax on employers causing the same negative outcomes on the level of employment (assuming it is priced the same way). Some will just pay the tax, others will raise wages to a level that avoids it. So there is some percentage of people that would have higher wages under one plan, but not the tax plan. We would then rely on the government to distribute those funds in a way that make the people still on that lower wage better off.
The first plan sounds pretty obviously superior.
Gopher State
Footballguy
Bernie or Hillary either one seems like a winner in 2020
Politician Spock
Footballguy
I'd be willing to bet the companies that get hit with this proposed poverty tax the most are the ones that have received most of the tax breaks for "creating jobs".
I put "creating jobs" in quotes, because many times they are "creating jobs" by simply beating established businesses who 1) didn't get the same "creating jobs" tax breaks because their jobs already existed; and 2) we're paying their employees livable wages. Jobs were not created. The existing jobs simply changed from a livable wage job at ABC company to a non-livable wage job at XYZ company. So now the government has to subsidize those jobs because they no longer pay a livable wage, while XYZ company enjoys the tax break.
If you tax XYZ company for doing this, then either XYZ begins to look like ABC company did, or ABC company (or a similar new company) comes back into the market, and those jobs go back to being what they were before... a livable wage job. The government stops having to subsidize them, and XYZ company stops getting tax breaks for jobs they didn't even create to begin with.
BigSteelThrill
Footballguy
Sanders and Warren wont go against one another when its comes to the actual names on the ballot.
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