Houston Texans Thread- Now a real ringleader @ QB

[Major 1,514]

6 hours ago, Houston turmOiler said:

Wish I wouldn't have said "cultural change" in my post a few spots above considering their reasoning in firing Palcic. At this point I'm just ready for Cal to sell the team. 

Yep.  One of the worst run organizations in all of sports.  

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Bradley Roby announces he too has been suspended 6 games 

“On Monday night, Houston Texans cornerback Bradley Roby announced that his season was over, as he has been suspended six games for violating the NFL's performance enhancing substances policy. Roby broke the news himself, and offered a statement apologizing to his teammates. 

Here's his statement, via James Palmer of the NFL Network:

"I apologize to my family, my teammates, the Houston Texans organization and the fans. A few months ago I unknowingly used a product that was contaminated with a banned substance by the NFL. I recognized that it is my job to know, and be responsible for, everything I put in my body. I will be suspended for 6 games ending my season. I will take the necessary steps in the future to prevent this from ever happening again. I look forward to rejoining my teammates next season in our goal to bring a championship to Houston."

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[Major 1,514]

The hits just keep on coming.  I wouldn't be surprised if BOB also moonlighted as the team physician.  

[Buckna 1,384]

1 hour ago, Major said:

The hits just keep on coming.  I wouldn't be surprised if BOB also moonlighted as the team physician.  

Only silver lining is that I believe this voids Roby’s guaranteed salary for 2021. He’s our best corner but the salary cap needs a major overhaul so that gives a new regime a little more flexibility. I believe we also recoup his and Fuller’s salaries for the last 5 games which is like 4.5M.

[dhockster 1,764]

So the obvious question is were Roby and Fuller using the same guy who gave them the PED's? I am also curious as to when the Texans knew about the possible suspensions since they cut Kenny Stills last week

[Buckna 1,384]

4 hours ago, dhockster said:

So the obvious question is were Roby and Fuller using the same guy who gave them the PED's? I am also curious as to when the Texans knew about the possible suspensions since they cut Kenny Stills last week

Supposedly yes, they both saw the same guy and took the same substance that they “thought” was ok. That’s their story at least.

[BoerumHill 171]

What do we know about Isaiah Coulter?

Pencil thin, good speed, can high point it, probably will excel best in intermediate and 9 routes (but he’s nowhere near as fast as the recently departed.)

Gonna line up outside mostly? I presume Coutee and the other shrimp (Stevie Sumtin’, mostly STer) will be in the slot.

Run game suxors, Atkins has duck hands, what’s gonna work best without a burner to keep the safeties honest?

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FYI - Watson one of two QBs who started/finished 4 games in November without throwing an interception.

 

[dhockster 1,764]

Very interesting article. Will the Texans want to or be able to keep Jack Easterby based on some of the assertions made in this article:

https://www.si.com/nfl/2020/12/10/ex-chaplain-jack-easterby-houston-texans-chaos-after-power-struggle-daily-cover

[Buckna 1,384]

On 12/10/2020 at 12:26 PM, dhockster said:

Very interesting article. Will the Texans want to or be able to keep Jack Easterby based on some of the assertions made in this article:

https://www.si.com/nfl/2020/12/10/ex-chaplain-jack-easterby-houston-texans-chaos-after-power-struggle-daily-cover

Awful, BOB gets all the blame but it appears Easterby was just as responsible for the mess the team is in as BOB. No wonder there was that report about Hopkins being told he was as bad as Aaron Hernandez, chaos reigns inside the Texans building.

Cal McNair needs to be removed or sell the team, he clearly has no idea what he’s doing either letting this craziness get so out of hand.

[Major 1,514]

In case you guys need a laugh after that game and this season.  This kid is hilarious.  Here's his reaction after getting a Bill O'Brien autograph for Christmas:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8fBG-9SA5Y

 

[coolnerd 51]

Well, the Texans at least still have a QB

[Jayded 639]

What a dreadful year end to end. No hope in sight for 2021 draft help and we handed Miami a top 3 pick for an OL that still is porous and in dire need of help.

Not sure where we really go. We need help everywhere and it probably needs to start with a big splash new coach that I can almost feel will underwhelm per usual Texans. 

I think we might see one or more of our LBers traded to get some draft picks back. We need help everywhere and Adams was a good fill in for McKinney so losing one of them isn’t the worst.

It’s small, but we are in big need of uniform updates too. Use the whole reboot needed to toss everything out and start over - new GM, new coach, new uniforms. 

[Buckna 1,384]

14 hours ago, Jayded said:

What a dreadful year end to end. No hope in sight for 2021 draft help and we handed Miami a top 3 pick for an OL that still is porous and in dire need of help.

Not sure where we really go. We need help everywhere and it probably needs to start with a big splash new coach that I can almost feel will underwhelm per usual Texans. 

I think we might see one or more of our LBers traded to get some draft picks back. We need help everywhere and Adams was a good fill in for McKinney so losing one of them isn’t the worst.

It’s small, but we are in big need of uniform updates too. Use the whole reboot needed to toss everything out and start over - new GM, new coach, new uniforms. 

There are paths to fixing things but I have zero confidence they can execute on one at this time. Needs to be a busy off-season which starts with landing an good offense minded head coach IMO and capable GM. I doubt either of those happen but fingers crossed. They are projected $16M over the cap. Need to get some of BOB’s bad contracts off the books although some we have to live with for another year until 2022 makes guys easier to cut: trade one if not two linebackers like you said for any pick we can get, unfortunately I don’t think there’s any savings to cutting Cunningham, Randall Cobb or Mercilus because of their guaranteed salaries, maybe we can trade Mercilus. McKinney should be a trade or cut now that we have Adams.

Obviously the big questions are Watt, the WR’s and the RB’s. Some combo’s of restructuring or trades need to occur. A trade may be inevitable now but Hopefully you can mend fences with Watt and extend him and get his cap number down from 17.5M. A Cooks extension/restructure makes the most sense IMO but I could see either him traded too depending on the new regimes desire to free up as much space as possible. Fuller a 1 year prove it deal or franchise tag IMO, can’t imagine there will be large demand for him after the PED suspension and injury history.

The DJ’s outright cut Duke or both, if they keep David J then a 1-2 year extension converting his 6M non-guaranteed base salary to a signing bonus to spread out the hit. Find a cheap vet off the scrap heap if both are gone. RB FA market should be flush this year, a guy like Conner might be a good get if at the right price.

After that focus on the o’line, need upgrades at position coach, guard and center. Maybe you can somehow get a 2nd for one of Watt or Cooks and use that pick and our early 3rd on pieces for the o’line or front 7.

If it was me, I would face the music that the defense is trash and gut it along with a few other position groups like the TE’s and interior o’line. Roby voided his guaranteed, cut him and save the $7M. Let all the reclamation projects like Hargreaves go. The TE’s have been failures, save a little money and move on from Fells, give up on Warring for example. Cut Martin, Fulton, Kelemete and take a chance on some rook’s or other FA’s since we know these current three suck. Try to get the offense focused and in a good place for 2021, we’ve shown we can hang with the Colts and Titans even with our current terrible defense and poor o’line. With just better coaching we could threaten them again. Spend your draft and FA dollars rebuilding the defense starting in 2022 onwards.

One thing is for sure, if they keep Mike Devlin around then we know we are in for more of the same old crap.

[-OZ- 7,821]

Intradivision trades are always hard to forecast, but what would the titans need to give to get Watt? 

He could finally rock that Oilers throwback jersey he wants.

[travdogg 2,998]

20 hours ago, Jayded said:

What a dreadful year end to end. No hope in sight for 2021 draft help and we handed Miami a top 3 pick for an OL that still is porous and in dire need of help.

Not sure where we really go. We need help everywhere and it probably needs to start with a big splash new coach that I can almost feel will underwhelm per usual Texans. 

I would think Houston would be the most appealing job for any HC candidate. Sure you don't have draft picks, but you also have an elite QB just entering his prime. No other team with a coaching opening has that. Maybe Herbert, or Lawrence get there, but its possible/likely those guys are never as good as Watson is right now. That's a major asset, one more important than a couple high draft picks.

3 hours ago, Buckna said:

 Fuller a 1 year prove it deal or franchise tag IMO, can’t imagine there will be large demand for him after the PED suspension and injury history.

I think there will be a huge market for Fuller regardless of the PED suspension. He's a 4.3 WR, who has shown the ability to be a #1 WR. I'd say he's the next guy up after Godwin and maybe Robinson among FA WR's. I'd bet he has a bigger market than Golladay or JuJu, and certainly higher than vets like Hilton or M.Jones.

[Jayded 639]

The more I've noodled through this mess in my head, I think the 2021 draft needs to focus on offensive skill players. Not having a pick until the 3rd means we will be far too down the list of impactful OL or DL that this team really needs. I think we just need to wait for 2022 to see non-FA progress there or we'll be reaching for late round projects again.

I think we just go for it with RBs/TEs/WRs in the 2021 draft and spend 2022 offseason on defense as a whole (DL in particular) and OL.

[dhockster 1,764]

15 hours ago, Jayded said:

The more I've noodled through this mess in my head, I think the 2021 draft needs to focus on offensive skill players. Not having a pick until the 3rd means we will be far too down the list of impactful OL or DL that this team really needs. I think we just need to wait for 2022 to see non-FA progress there or we'll be reaching for late round projects again.

I think we just go for it with RBs/TEs/WRs in the 2021 draft and spend 2022 offseason on defense as a whole (DL in particular) and OL.

Not a bad thought. Although I think the defensive cupboard is so bare, you have to try and find some diamonds in the rough there. The offense will be fine. The O-line is going to be better with better coaching and scheme. Seeing a game where Coutee and Hansen were the starters and each had 100 yard games, shows that Deshaun can work with any receivers. The Texans should extend Cooks in a cap friendly way and wave bye bye to Fuller. He has great talent, but if he can't stay on the field unless he is using PED's then his value is not worth the contract someone will be willing to pay him.

[Buckna 1,384]

22 hours ago, travdogg said:

I think there will be a huge market for Fuller regardless of the PED suspension. He's a 4.3 WR, who has shown the ability to be a #1 WR. I'd say he's the next guy up after Godwin and maybe Robinson among FA WR's. I'd bet he has a bigger market than Golladay or JuJu, and certainly higher than vets like Hilton or M.Jones.

If there is that big a market then another team is welcome to him. The PED suspension in a contract year, the only year he stayed healthy is a massive red flag.

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Texans have a new GM

”The #Texans and Nick Caserio have an agreement in place, source said. The former #Patriots Director of Player Personnel is the new GM in Houston.”

 

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Edited January 6 by whole-show

[dhockster 1,764]

Littlefinger's fingers continue to pull the strings.....

[Buckna 1,384]

Ugh. Countdown to McDaniel's hired as head coach? 

 

Hopefully I am wrong but as Han said "I've got a bad feeling about this..." 

[Jayded 639]

Does this team want any fans? I really cannot see how they do not see the precipice on which they currently stand. Cal surely has no clue how to fix this, but there's no way he can't sense the danger his franchise is in right now, right?

If we end up trading Watson, we'll almost be forced to trade JJ given his comments and desire to play for a winner (trading Watson would signal the end of that in near future).

[Buckna 1,384]

Ugh, PFT has reported that not only was Omar Khan likely going to be hired, he had been negotiating a contract!!! with Houston when Jack Easterby swept in and intercepted the whole operation. Caserio wasn’t even on the list of GM’s recommended by the search team that McNair paid hundreds of thousands of dollars and spent the last 3 months working on. Just a giant mess.

[Jayded 639]

24 minutes ago, Buckna said:

Ugh, PFT has reported that not only was Omar Khan likely going to be hired, he had been negotiating a contract!!! with Houston when Jack Easterby swept in and intercepted the whole operation. Caserio wasn’t even on the list of GM’s recommended by the search team that McNair paid hundreds of thousands of dollars and spent the last 3 months working on. Just a giant mess.

The only 🤷‍♂️ about Khan as I've read more is he's strictly a numbers guy (Cap & Contract) and not really a personnel guy. As I understand it, Caserio has experience on both sides, but yeah the oddity is you hire a third party to help and take literally none of their suggestions at all.

Given personnel issues, I wonder if we'd still be in similar personnel messes with Khan or others not named Caserio but I also think the head coach is going to be huge here. I'm really curious when we decide to pull the trigger as the pool of teams looking is only getting bigger by day.

[dhockster 1,764]

The other bad optic, is soliciting input from your star QB on who he would want as head coach, and then not even interview the guy he wants most (who is being interviewed by virtually every other team who is looking for a head coach). If you are not going to give any creedence to what he wants, don't even ask him to be part of the process.

[The Duff Man 1,110]

Bills fans saw this with their founder Ralph Wilson. It was a gigantic mess for a decade or more before he passed in his mid 90s. I hate to tell you Houston fans, but I think you are in for the same. Bad ownership = bad teams

[Buckna 1,384]

1 hour ago, Jayded said:

The only 🤷‍♂️ about Khan as I've read more is he's strictly a numbers guy (Cap & Contract) and not really a personnel guy. As I understand it, Caserio has experience on both sides, but yeah the oddity is you hire a third party to help and take literally none of their suggestions at all.

Given personnel issues, I wonder if we'd still be in similar personnel messes with Khan or others not named Caserio but I also think the head coach is going to be huge here. I'm really curious when we decide to pull the trigger as the pool of teams looking is only getting bigger by day.

Yeah, I should have been more clear. I am not upset at not getting Khan, I am more upset that they told the guy he had the job and were negotiating in good faith with someone and then pulled the rug out. What coaching candidates or front office personnel or players are ever going to trust you or want to deal with you after seeing that?

Edited Monday at 11:03 PM by Buckna

[rockaction 22,920]

This is just brutal. More Rivers McCown on Easterby.

https://www.riversmccown.com/2021/01/11/there-are-many-megachurches-in-houston/

[dhockster 1,764]

15 hours ago, rockaction said:

This is just brutal. More Rivers McCown on Easterby.

https://www.riversmccown.com/2021/01/11/there-are-many-megachurches-in-houston/

Couldn't have said it better myself. Cal is in over his head as an owner and Easterby is taking advantage of that. With Andre Johnson's tweet yesterday that nothing good has happened for the organization since they hired Easterby, it will be interesting to see if McNair responds to the growing public pressure (as well as pressure for current and former players) to get rid of Easterby.

Edited Wednesday at 02:50 PM by dhockster

[Major 1,514]

These Andre Johnson tweets 🔥

lol at Duane Brown's reply

https://twitter.com/johnson80/status/1349084500840640518

[GregR 5,611]

Darn it. I wanted the Texans to hire Robert Saleh.