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QB Dak Prescott, DAL (5 Viewers)
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Interesting comparisons to Romo and Stafford. I agree that Stafford and Dak have just had atrocious defenses or coaching or both to go with good WR play. Matt Ryan has had similar career as well.
Apple Juice
Footballguy
Game one, had a sideline bomb taken away on a highly questionable offensive pass interference call, probably would have won them the game.
Game two, miracle comeback, amazing performance.
Game three, miracle comeback, amazing performance, doesn't get the win because the defense can't get a stop to save their lives.
Of course, the verdict is Dak can't win. Some guys will never overcome the narrative assigned to them unless the stars align and their teams are able to gut out wins in the playoffs. Even if Dak sets passing records this year the perception won't change unless that defense becomes respectable.
Game two, miracle comeback, amazing performance.
Game three, miracle comeback, amazing performance, doesn't get the win because the defense can't get a stop to save their lives.
Of course, the verdict is Dak can't win. Some guys will never overcome the narrative assigned to them unless the stars align and their teams are able to gut out wins in the playoffs. Even if Dak sets passing records this year the perception won't change unless that defense becomes respectable.
STEADYMOBBIN 22
Footballguy
The narrative is that Dak is a winner though. He’ll be fine. Let the old racist and salty Romo lovers eat their crow.
I do have some concerns that this team is leaning too much towards offensive skill positions at the detriment of the once formidable offensive line.
I’ll say this till the day I die....
In the first round of the draft you take a OLman. Every single year unless there is a unicorn. You draft a guy to replace your first round pick Olineman you drafted 4 years ago and u less he’s special, you let that guy walk. This will keep your offensive line heathy, deep and devastating. You can win with OK receivers if you have a great line.
Of they don’t get back to restocking this line you’re looking at another decade of what you saw Sunday, tons of offense and crappy backbreaking defense.
You have to actually win before you can claim to be a winner.
Dak can win but he’s 9-10 over his last 19 games. He’s played very well at times but has also struggled. I do think he can lead this team to good results, but that really hasn’t happened yet.
Race has nothing to do with this and insinuating that is does undercuts the foundation of your argument.
Dak is not alone in sharing the responsibility for the team’s underwhelming results- injuries and bad coaching play prominently into the equation, as does a horrific defense.
Dak is a good QB, but not great. Romo was a good QB, but not great. Fantasy football and real football are two different things and many often equate greatness in one as equivalent as greatness in the other.
STEADYMOBBIN 22
Footballguy
I am the last person to pull the race card. I think it’s awful but there is zero reason to like Romo over Dak unless race involved. I’m not pointing the finger at you but it’s hard to think that race doesn’t play a factor with the millions of unknowledgeable, pretend Cowboys fans.
Dak is everything Romo wasn’t. Tough, great leader, and a winner. Romo was a straight loser. He was the coach from the movie waterboy.
I couldn't care less about FF. I think the team should have stuck drafting Olinemen - the road grading mauler types, not the athletic guys they have been taking recently. I’m a firm believer in winning with defense, a strong running game and using playaction.
This team has gotten away from that identity and we’re trending right back to the Romo years unless we restock this line and fast.
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Romo was a paper champion. Fun to watch, great for fantasy, but folded in the big spot. I like Dak and am rooting for him. I’m simply unsure as to whether he is the long term answer. He’s a class act and a leader, easy to relate to and a real good person, as we saw with his brother’s terrible struggle with depression.
I still feel that he could be great but isn’t there yet. McCarthy looks the same as Garrett and the defense is atrocious. Unfortunately, think we are staring 8-8 in the face again.
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
Just a FF owner, not a DC fan. He has been superb and Firm No 4 overall in my league behind Mahomes and Lamar, that's about where many were hoping. I did reach a little early in the 5th but wanted to get someone I felt could have some explosive weeks.
The Dallas schedule is pretty soft most of the way, they should be in almost every game, that would seem to be good for Dak.
He has weapons and there is pressure on them to win a soft division, shouldn't be that hard to go 10-6 for them, even 9-7 likely to win the East.
The Dallas schedule is pretty soft most of the way, they should be in almost every game, that would seem to be good for Dak.
He has weapons and there is pressure on them to win a soft division, shouldn't be that hard to go 10-6 for them, even 9-7 likely to win the East.
STEADYMOBBIN 22
Footballguy
Anybody is better than Jason Garrett. I like all the adjustments they make, they need their two tackles back and they should be fine.
Seattle was a true test and they almost won. People got to remember that this is Russell Wilson’s NINTH season. I one-hundred percent love the Way Prescott is progressing.
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The Frankman
Footballguy
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dickey moe
Fingerpicker
Pretty horrific lower leg/ankle injury on a 1st and 10 down QB run play. Carted off.
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Sister Havana
Footballguy
That’s something you never want to see. The look on his face when he was carted off broke my heart.
fruity pebbles
Footballguy
This whole season sucks.
Ghost Rider
Footballguy
I don't see how it has much effect at all. Jerry didn't want to give a king's ransom for a mobile QB who isn't elite. That was a more than reasonable stance. Sadly, Dak got hurt and Jerry comes off looking kinda smart, but the Cowboys have a long history of paying players.
Hope Dak is okay and can come back sooner rather than later. He is fun to watch.
voiceofunreason
Footballguy
He’ll get his 100 million plus deal anyways.Soulfly3 said:
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
That's Sad if that's going to be the case but I think you might be right, that's just terrible. I feel bad for the kid, he was fun to watch and had such a great approach to the game. It's unfortunate Dallas has so many haters but that's what happens when you are America's Team. jerry Jones has always taken care of his players and he will do the right thing, whatever that is to make a bridge and keep Dak in the fold while he heals. That's just how I feel, things could play out differently.scottybo said:
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Don't try to make jokes on this.Marmalade said:
Steve Tasker
Footballguy
Honestly, I hope he's back and ready to go in 18-24 weeks. 18 would be mighty optimistic, I'd think.scottybo said:
fruity pebbles
Footballguy
Cowboys defense, Dalton is going to throw a ton.
Kevrunner
Footballguy
Just feel horrible for Dak, I hate the Cowboys, but seeing how emotional he was when he was being carted off the field, and then remembering what happened to his older brother earlier this year, it really made me feel so sad for him. I sure hope he has a speedy recovery and will be as close to 100% as possible for the 2021 season.
Craig_MiamiFL
Footballguy
Sucks for him but the franchise will be better off with this. Franchise was MORE THAN FAIR with their offer. Will finally put an end to this charade he's worth paying as a high end talent.
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I-ROK
Footballguy
I agree here. Dak over played his hand, although he is in good company when you consider the names he stands with for stats. This should put an end to it all and is a good reminder for a lot of players out there
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
And that's why they needed to have surgery performed tonight.Compound fracture. Yikes.
I think rather than project a timeframe for recovery, I think we should all just take a moment and either pray, reflect, hope for the best, we can discuss when he might return later on. Right now, maybe just hearing how he pulls thru tomorrow and hope he doesn't suffer any more than he has to. I bet in a couple months we might hear some good things like the bones are healed but the time frame for him ot return to sports might be a very long road.
dcgangstas
Footballguy
Hoping for a swift recovery for Dak. He's always carried himself in a classy manner. This has been an awful year for him and his family.
wgoldsph
Footballguy
His numbers this and last season showed he was worth the price he put himself on.
"Sucks" is really underselling it.
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Craig_MiamiFL
Footballguy
If you believe piling up garbage time stats, missing the playoffs and not watching film that clearly shows he's an average QB, sure.
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Sudoku_in_the_Bathtub
Footballguy
At various points in his career, he's been given:
Best RB in the game.
Best O-line in the game.
One of the better WR duos in the game
One of the best WR trios in the game.
The return given all that has been very mediocre. Dallas dodged a bullet with him rejecting their offer. Good for them for pulling the bag back after he realized that mistake and tried to get that previous offer.
wgoldsph
Footballguy
He's not the coach of the team. He doesn't play defense. He's not Jerry Jones.
Dan Marino must have sucked by those standards (not saying just saying).
Craig_MiamiFL
Footballguy
The team had a nice year his rookie year as he rode Elliott's coattail 4 or 5 years ago. He's been about a .500 QB since. Dak makes no one better. He's a marginal QB.
If you want to base contract value on piling up garbage time stats last/this season and missing the playoffs (or "leading" to a 1-3 record this season), feel free
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These posts are in very poor taste in this moment.The team had a nice year his rookie year as he rode Elliott's coattail 4 or 5 years ago. He's been about a .500 QB since. Dak makes no one better. He's a marginal QB.
If you want to base contract value on piling up garbage time stats last/this season and missing the playoffs (or "leading" to a 1-3 record this season), feel free
