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QB Dak Prescott, DAL (2 Viewers)
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I was using a bit of hyperbole but he really did blow it off, which I didn't think was a good look.
Dizzy
Footballguy
TampaMike19
Footballguy
What's up with him? Week 1 dak has been long gone
There are some great weapons on this team
There are some great weapons on this team
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drummer
Footballguy
He's Dak Prescott.
I don't mean to be too glib about Prescott, but he is in between Matt Ryan and Joe Flacco, maybe not even that.
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Judge Smails
Footballguy
I agree with this. Doesn't look right. How far does he drop in drafts next year? He's not in that elite tier.
Dizzy
Footballguy
Dan Orlovsky (sp?) does a great job of breaking down Dak's decision making and how it has regressed since the calf injury. Noted how he came out looking like an MVP to start the season, but since the calf? Nervous and hurried in the pocket... not trusting his protection and not waiting for routes to develop before checking down. Could be a simple case of the yips following an injury.
He's better than Flacco ever was other than a 4 game stretch. But Ryan is one of the best QB's of the last 20 years, and is still a pretty good starting QB all things considered.
Dak isn't an elite QB(did anyone ever think he was?) but he's a high end starter for sure. He lost both starting OT's yesterday, and had a host of drops, and zero rushing threat.
STEADYMOBBIN 22
Footballguy
He's fine. You're being just as over-reactionary as the media. You play to win the game, he won.
IDGAF about fantasy.
STEADYMOBBIN 22
Footballguy
Pretty much. The Cowboys have a problem at LG and a first year starter at center, among other offensive line issues.
drummer
Footballguy
I forget sometimes that this is a fantasy football forum, and people look at Prescott from that perspective. I was just comparing him to other QB's who throw 25-30 TDs per regular season who some argue are/were elite. I agree with you on Ryan, although many might not agree with either of us.
STEADYMOBBIN 22
Footballguy
You may not be wrong but that’s the way Dallas is setup to be under Jerry. He focuses all his money on the starters and the drop off is usually staggering.
They have gotten better in this area but it’s still true.
I’ll also add that the offensive line hasn’t been very good since 2016. It’s an average line at this time. I hope they draft a stud T or G with their first pick next season.
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All I'm saying is there are QBs that elevate their team even when the team has injuries and they are playing with backups. Dak doesn't do that but he's paid as if he does.
STEADYMOBBIN 22
Footballguy
I think he’s hurt and just hasn’t gotten back into rhythm.
The Redskins defense is also pretty solid. It was also a division game.
Good news is the Cowboys have 4 more weeks to right the ship and hopefully get hot.
The Redskins defense is also pretty solid. It was also a division game.
Good news is the Cowboys have 4 more weeks to right the ship and hopefully get hot.
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SeniorVBDStudent
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matuski
Footballguy
Sure, it's all debateable. I can't name 10 QBs I would want in the real life NFL more than him.
Mahomes, Brady, Allen, Herbert for sure.
Rodgers, probably in a dead tie with Dak
matuski
Footballguy
matuski
Footballguy
Sigh...The good enough to be a franchise QB but not good enough to carry a franchise tier.
Okay, name your entire list of QBs good enough to carry a franchise.
matuski
Footballguy
The "been there done that" tier -
Rodgers
Brady
Mahomes
Wilson
The "did it once" tier -
Josh Allen
Lamar Jackson (although I think he has been just about figured out)
The "flashed the ability, maybe this year" tier -
Herbert
Burrow
Stafford
Murray
The "you gotta pay them franchise money but will they ever do it" tier -
Dak/Carr/Cousins/Wentz/Tannehill/Garoppolo/Baker ... where on a week to week basis the question is who didn't make the stupid passes to almost lose the game for their otherwise pretty damn good teams. On an up week maybe they were better than a bad Stafford or Murray for a Sunday.
STEADYMOBBIN 22
Footballguy
Allegedly they’re running vanilla stuff and saving things for the playoffs
haha sure
I havent seen him throw a ball downfield in ages. Also Ceedee drops a lot of balls.
STEADYMOBBIN 22
Footballguy
I must admit, I haven’t seen them run anything exciting in weeks. The first few games had 3-4 cool designed plays every game.
bostonfred
Footballguy
So many dumb things yesterday. Lamb had a bad drop. They got the ball deep in the red zone with ten seconds left and didn't call a timeout. Zeke rushing touchdown. No pressure to score after 4 turnovers. I had hoped this would be the game to break his slump but with them winning 21-6 they didn't have much reason to bomb away and they got so many short fields from turnovers that they didn't need him to rack up yards. He'll be fine but I'm probably benching him for fields next week
STEADYMOBBIN 22
Footballguy
Dak played pretty well yesterday. The three drops by Lamb would look better on the stat sheet.
With that said, running vanilla stuff allows the opposing defenses a better chance to stop it. That style of play works great if you have better players across the board than the other teams but all it takes is a guy or two to win their position battle and it ruins the whole play. It today’s NFL scheme is more important than ever.
So to answer your question- I think one the more complicated stuff goes back in the offense will improve.
OR - Maybe the way the defense is playing, it’s better off to play a more conservative brand of offense that doesn’t allow opposing teams to get TO chances.
Cowboysfan8
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Cowboysfan8 laughed at this postSTEADYMOBBIN 22 said:
STEADYMOBBIN 22
Footballguy
He's whatever you want to name him. Elite, not Elite, top5, top 15, game manager, bus driver, whatever label you want to use if that kinda thing is important to you.
He is the quarterback of the 2nd seed in the NFC.
