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Otis fad diet thread — yoga, fasting, and kevzilla walking on🚶♂️ (13 Viewers)
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The Iguana
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krista4
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Oracle
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belljr
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gianmarco
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culdeus
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bostonfred
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Zegras11
Footballguy
Noom.... just day 1, buy I really like the way they approach things. I've never once gone on a diet. A couple times I've done fasting, quasi keto, and lost 20-40 lbs. I like that I have a 1 on 1 coach, and the app has questions and reminders to keep on track. That's what I need. I get too busy with work and stop doing the right things. Didn't really research this much, just went for it after I saw @ren hoek post about it last week and it came up on my FB feed yesterday morning.
eaganwildcats
Footballguy
Jan 14 Row: 10k in 42:58 avg HR = 149eaganwildcats said:
Jan Total: 136,282m
@Otis RowPro is pretty hilarious. I was racing against a few "pace boats" and my row from yesterday. It is actually pretty motivating to not lose
https://imgur.com/hipF5sR
Otis
Footballguy
That’s pretty cool. OK maybe I need to get on this. I just need a TV in front of my erg I guess? I just threw one out — damnit. But a 32” TV costs nothing these days, maybe I’ll go pick something up.Jan 14 Row: 10k in 42:58 avg HR = 149
Jan Total: 136,282m
@Otis RowPro is pretty hilarious. I was racing against a few "pace boats" and my row from yesterday. It is actually pretty motivating to not lose
eaganwildcats
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NutterButter
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Otis
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Today’s musings.
A little basic math here. I’m now rowing almost daily, probably burning about 600 calories on average. And I’ve given up alcohol. I’m guessing that was 300-400 calories daily. We’re now pushing 1,000 calories. Over the course of a week, that’s 7,000 calories less than what I was doing before.
A pound of fat is 3,500 calories. So, keeping all else equal, with just the rowing and the lack of alcohol, that should help me lose 2lbs of fat per week. And of course I’m doing other things, like not stuffing my face with racks of Oreos on the regular, but instead watching what I eat and generally eating good food. I’m sure that’s an even further deficit from my prior steady state.
In theory, I’m thinking I should easily be losing 2 - 2.5 lbs per week in my new routine. Which honestly has become pretty routine. It’s not hard. I’m not craving alcohol on a daily basis. I’m not craving junk food snacks. I usually snack on peanuts and cheese. On occasion when I’m way below my calories for the day I’ve grabbed a handful of these organic chocolate graham crackers Mrs O keeps for the kids. But that’s it.
Work is quiet and no travel on the immediate horizon. So hopefully I can keep piling on these good weeks and just further imprinting the daily routine so it’s just automatic when times inevitably get more crazy.
Big wedding at one of the best restaurants in the world on Sunday, I’m leaning towards letting loose with a couple drinks and eating whatever but within reason. We’ll see. I’ll likely let Mrs. O decide our fate that night. Having her on the no drinking bandwagon has really been a massive help. This really is a team sport.
A little basic math here. I’m now rowing almost daily, probably burning about 600 calories on average. And I’ve given up alcohol. I’m guessing that was 300-400 calories daily. We’re now pushing 1,000 calories. Over the course of a week, that’s 7,000 calories less than what I was doing before.
A pound of fat is 3,500 calories. So, keeping all else equal, with just the rowing and the lack of alcohol, that should help me lose 2lbs of fat per week. And of course I’m doing other things, like not stuffing my face with racks of Oreos on the regular, but instead watching what I eat and generally eating good food. I’m sure that’s an even further deficit from my prior steady state.
In theory, I’m thinking I should easily be losing 2 - 2.5 lbs per week in my new routine. Which honestly has become pretty routine. It’s not hard. I’m not craving alcohol on a daily basis. I’m not craving junk food snacks. I usually snack on peanuts and cheese. On occasion when I’m way below my calories for the day I’ve grabbed a handful of these organic chocolate graham crackers Mrs O keeps for the kids. But that’s it.
Work is quiet and no travel on the immediate horizon. So hopefully I can keep piling on these good weeks and just further imprinting the daily routine so it’s just automatic when times inevitably get more crazy.
Big wedding at one of the best restaurants in the world on Sunday, I’m leaning towards letting loose with a couple drinks and eating whatever but within reason. We’ll see. I’ll likely let Mrs. O decide our fate that night. Having her on the no drinking bandwagon has really been a massive help. This really is a team sport.
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eaganwildcats
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eaganwildcats
Footballguy
Otis
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DocHolliday
Footballguy
bostonfred
Footballguy
Welcome to Way Back Wednesday, when we go back just three months to find this.
4 to 5 drinks pretty standard.
2 cheeseburgers, 20 mcnuggets, medium fries, diet coke - 1846 calories not including any sauces, and assuming a medium fries instead of a large.
Fresh bagels at a bagel place are minimum 300 calories but probably north of 500 each. You were having two of them. With cream cheese. For breakfast.
Fish tacos? Not too bad. Add in the restaurant chips though and you are eating a ton of fat salt and calories. Then picking at the kid's meals. Oh, and having 2 to 4 sangrias. Before you go on day drinking. And then have a light dinner.
At 230 lbs it probably takes 2400 calories for you to maintain your weight. You were having that in a single meal at times.
An hour of vigorous rowing burns around 1000 calories. It takes two days of waking up at 4:45, rowing for an hour and going to work to undo your "standard McDonald's order". Every time you knock out a 10k row you've knocked off the weight of one cheeseburger, 10 mcnuggets and a half order of fries. Which, by the way, is still a big meal on its own. And your standard order was double that.
You don't need to go "full bale" to undo this. You've already learned how to lose a few pounds which is great. But the really important thing I hope you've learned is how much work it takes to undo these enormous meals. And if you decide to go to that wedding and have that 2000 calorie meal, or go out with clients and have that huge meal with drinks, that's a conscious decision you're making, knowing the consequence that you'll have to diet and exercise if you want to burn those calories off.
It's ok to cheat. It's awesome. I love food. But now that you're seeing the effort involved, and making real progress, I think you'll decide that it just wasn't worth it for McDonald's.
bostonfred
Footballguy
My knee is feeling better and I tested it with some light running earlier this week so i did a 5k on the treadmill yesterday, at a personal record pace. Celebrated with a big piece of salmon, broccoli and a baked potato and two recovery beers. Because I needed to replace the carbs I'd burned. Today I'm going to try for 5k rowing instead.
gianmarco
Footballguy
"ZOMG, the stuff you guys have been saying all along actually works. Thank God, because I hate potatoes".228.1
Just starting to fall off...
ok no more weigh ins for a while.
xulf
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What was the last weigh in? I don't want to dig...but I have 240 in my head, but maybe it was 235?228.1
Just starting to fall off...
ok no more weigh ins for a while.
Either way, way to kill it
The Iguana
Footballguy
3 days in a row of push ups! It's a movement!
eaganwildcats
Footballguy
The Z Machine
Footballguy
Week 2 of IF: Down ~1 lbs. Fasting extended on one day / week to 3:00 PM. Drinking more water on fasting days (I don't drink much water, so 1L intake is a lot for a work day)
Even though I'm only down 1 lbs., my pants actually fit better this morning.
Even though I'm only down 1 lbs., my pants actually fit better this morning.
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Otis
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Been in the 235-240 range for most of the year, had to be closer to 240 (or over) after the holidays. I was too skurred to check...What was the last weigh in? I don't want to dig...but I have 240 in my head, but maybe it was 235?
Either way, way to kill it
Last time I was this light was last February (actually got down to 226 then). The difference now is I think I have a sustainable approach, and by the end of this month I should blow through 226, maybe to below 225.
If I can get below 220, it'll be the first time since 2016, when I was briefly below 220 for a couple of weeks, and it was the only time I'd been that low in the past 8 or 9 years. And the difference is I've been lifting and working out now, so I have more muscle, and better overall fitness, then I did then. So at that same sub-220 weight point, I'll be in much better shape than I was in 2016.
I was around 215 when I got married, and our 10 year anniversary is later this year. We are making plans to go away to an island without the kids. I'd love to be able to show Mrs. O a better O than she's ever known. On this current plan, and that being 9 months away, it's super achievable.
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E-Z Glider
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Just to follow up on this....
Perky Jerky sucks. Trader Joe's Turkey Jerky sucks too. I dont know what it is about Turkey jerky, but these products were mushy/slimy and overly sweet. I like my jerky dry and salty. This was neither. Hard pass on both.
Built Bar was turrible. Its over-the-top sweet with artificial sweeteners. Gross fake caramel covered with gross fake chocolate. First bite tasted OK when first put in your mouth. By the time you're ready to swallow, its disgusting. I couldnt get more than 2 bites down. I have a whole box of these things if anyone wants them.
Nabisco Good Thins are awesome. Lots of different flavors and very low points. Adds some crunch when you desperately need it. Dont be fooled by the quantity/servings. Some falvors say 120 calories for 41 crackers, but they're the size of a postage stamp and others say 120 calories for 15 crackers and they're much bigger. I love these things.
Dogfish Slightly Mighty is also awesome. I take back everything bad I said about it earlier. After two weeks of eating "substitute foods", I've learned to appreciate the ones that are actually good. Would I choose it over a regular IPA if I wasnt dieting? No. Is it 100X better than a Coors light or a Claw? YES! And less points too!
These are a couple other snacks that I also like at the moment...
Weight-Watchers pepperoni sticks are pretty good. Its like half a slim-Jim and only has a point value of 0.5. Even has a little "grease" to it, so it feels/tastes like the real thing. No nitrates. They aren't cheap, but they're good and satisfying.
Sargento light sting cheese is a pretty awesome snack for 1 point.
Hormel Bacon Bits are surprisingly less than 1 point for a Tablespoon. A flavor-packed addition to a salad.
Corn Tortillas are only 1.5 points. Chicken taco's anyone?
Tofu Pasta - I'm still somewhat undecided on this one. I like eating it much better than zoodles, but it seems to be giving me some intestinal issues.
Barney Butter - Its a unsweetened dried almond powder with most of the fat removed. I mix 2 Tablespoons of powder with 2 teaspoons of sugar free imitation honey and enough water to make it a peanut-butter type consistency and then dip apple slices in it. PFG and only 2 points.
Jello sugar-free chocolate pudding - I eat one of these almost every night before bed. Such a treat and only 2.4 points each. Delicious.
Whatcha got?
gianmarco
Footballguy
Just an FYI, this isn't a "plan". It's a lifestyle. It's why it's seems sustainable. It's why it is sustainable.
eaganwildcats
Footballguy
Jan 15 Row: 10k in 42:55Jan 14 Row: 10k in 42:58 avg HR = 149
Jan Total: 136,282m
@Otis RowPro is pretty hilarious. I was racing against a few "pace boats" and my row from yesterday. It is actually pretty motivating to not lose
Jan Total: 146,282
I amend "hilarious" to be 'awesome'. Having my row from yesterday pushing me / as a reference was great.
@Otis wanna do a fast 5K one of these days?
Otis
Footballguy
Sure. You're gonna kill me, but I'm game. I'm still messing with me drag -- since I've tweaked it down my times are suffering, I don't know if that's just because I'm fatigued from all the long rows or because it matters. So I want to tweak a little more.
We gonna do this with the goofy app (which I'd need to figure out how to set up)? Or just on the same day?
Otis
Footballguy
You're right.
I'm also realizing if I can get below 220, there's only one other time I've done that in the past 10 years -- when I did the potato hack in 2016, which is why it makes sense that it wasn't sustainable for very long.
eaganwildcats
Footballguy
Meh same day, I'd just like to do one of each distance "hard" each month for kicks. I'll be gunning for my PR which appears to be 19:22.4 from 12/06/19.
bostonfred
Footballguy
Finished my first ever 5k rowing
23:48
Fingers definitely got numb towards the end. That's not fun. I could have gone further but want to see how i feel tomorrow after increasing my distance.
23:48
Fingers definitely got numb towards the end. That's not fun. I could have gone further but want to see how i feel tomorrow after increasing my distance.
belljr
Footballguy
Old trick I used to use when I had to use the jack hammer a lot.
For rowing. Straighten 2 fingers on the "push" motion every so often. So pinky, ring left. Then middle point left. Then right.
bostonfred
Footballguy
Otis
Footballguy
Awesome BF. Keep it going! I’m convinced this may be one of the best all around cardio and fitness exercises around.
In fact, I have an appointment with a knee specialist I made a last month because I wanted to get deeper into running, but now I’m actually less interested. I’ll go, would be good to get it looked at and be able to mix in running, but I’m honestly good just rowing forever at this point. So glad I stumbled back into this randomly.
Otis
Footballguy
@eaganwildcats let's do it. You go first, I'll do mine the following morning. Will give me something to aim for.
krista4
Footballguy
Thanks for this, especially the reminder on string cheese. It's something I'll take on hikes but sort of forgot as a possible at-home snack. Going to have to check out that Barney Butter, too!Just to follow up on this....
Perky Jerky sucks. Trader Joe's Turkey Jerky sucks too. I dont know what it is about Turkey jerky, but these products were mushy/slimy and overly sweet. I like my jerky dry and salty. This was neither. Hard pass on both.
Built Bar was turrible. Its over-the-top sweet with artificial sweeteners. Gross fake caramel covered with gross fake chocolate. First bite tasted OK when first put in your mouth. By the time you're ready to swallow, its disgusting. I couldnt get more than 2 bites down. I have a whole box of these things if anyone wants them.
Nabisco Good Thins are awesome. Lots of different flavors and very low points. Adds some crunch when you desperately need it. Dont be fooled by the quantity/servings. Some falvors say 120 calories for 41 crackers, but they're the size of a postage stamp and others say 120 calories for 15 crackers and they're much bigger. I love these things.
Dogfish Slightly Mighty is also awesome. I take back everything bad I said about it earlier. After two weeks of eating "substitute foods", I've learned to appreciate the ones that are actually good. Would I choose it over a regular IPA if I wasnt dieting? No. Is it 100X better than a Coors light or a Claw? YES! And less points too!
These are a couple other snacks that I also like at the moment...
Weight-Watchers pepperoni sticks are pretty good. Its like half a slim-Jim and only has a point value of 0.5. Even has a little "grease" to it, so it feels/tastes like the real thing. No nitrates. They aren't cheap, but they're good and satisfying.
Sargento light sting cheese is a pretty awesome snack for 1 point.
Hormel Bacon Bits are surprisingly less than 1 point for a Tablespoon. A flavor-packed addition to a salad.
Corn Tortillas are only 1.5 points. Chicken taco's anyone?
Tofu Pasta - I'm still somewhat undecided on this one. I like eating it much better than zoodles, but it seems to be giving me some intestinal issues.
Barney Butter - Its a unsweetened dried almond powder with most of the fat removed. I mix 2 Tablespoons of powder with 2 teaspoons of sugar free imitation honey and enough water to make it a peanut-butter type consistency and then dip apple slices in it. PFG and only 2 points.
Jello sugar-free chocolate pudding - I eat one of these almost every night before bed. Such a treat and only 2.4 points each. Delicious.
Whatcha got?
I think I recommended some of the WW snacks in here before, so I won't bore you with those again. I realize they're a bit pricey, too.
I'm not much of a snacker, but if I do I tend to like stuff like tabbouleh with some peaches or apples or fat-free feta added. Or apples with a little peanut butter (maybe now the Barney Butter). Or apples plain. I eat a lot of apples. Actually I had a salad of arugula, tabbouleh, and fat-free feta tonight for dinner and found that to be plenty filling, too.
ETA: Since you mentioned tacos, I'll steer you far away from making them with the Beyond Meat crumbles. That #### is awful. I enjoy the Beyond Meat brats and Italian sausages, but the crumbles have a horrific consistency. Think I'll do tacos with ground turkey instead.
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culdeus
Footballguy
Someone bump that video series you all had like 20 pages ago. It covered this issue.
Otis
Footballguy
Rowtis Stats
Jan 16 Row: 10k MAF (46:39; avg. HR 129; 700 cals)
January total: 116,994m
Youngest kept waking us up last night, and work anxiety separately kept me up. Rough night of sleep, really was on the fence about sleeping in. Managed to drag myself out. Little victory.
Jan 16 Row: 10k MAF (46:39; avg. HR 129; 700 cals)
January total: 116,994m
Youngest kept waking us up last night, and work anxiety separately kept me up. Rough night of sleep, really was on the fence about sleeping in. Managed to drag myself out. Little victory.
E-Z Glider
Footballguy
What's good? I may order some more stuff.
We had a bag of those fake meat crumbles in the cart and ended up putting them back. Glad we did. I've been using chicken breasts braised in chicken stock and taco seasonings for my tacos. 
msommer
Footballguy
Maybe your butt just isn't as padded as it used to be...
Paging Wet Dream for an evaluation
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bostonfred
Footballguy
https://youtu.be/eKp2f5-jRbI
If you have a hypervolt or theragun that might help too. I use my hypervolt on the hip/butt while doing that stretch, on the highest power setting. Seriously a game changer for me - a few minutes here or there and it has helped everything from carpal tunnel to hip and hamstring pain..
