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I woke up with considerable DGAF this morning, but I was able to use self-loathing to remind myself that I am still, in fact, a fat tub of goo. That got me out the door and into the 87% humidity. As a reward, I'm allowing myself an extra glass of Coke Zero this morning.

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15 hours ago, cheeseypoof said:

Haven’t been posting recently.  Still trying to stay within the MFP recommended calorie goal.  Exercising most days.  With that said, just in an overall funk leading to a fight with self motivation.  Not quite IDGF just yet.  Work is very stressful currently which isn’t helping my overall mood, probably contributing significantly.  

The 4 year anniversary of my wife’s passing is next week. I’m sure that’s a big factor in my overall mood.  It’s a daily struggle but I’m marching on.

Cheesey

Hang in there.   Only logical to feel down at this time due to your loss and challenges at work.   You will get through.  

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On 6/14/2020 at 8:54 PM, bostonfred said:
On 6/11/2020 at 10:30 AM, SWC said:

im sort of in the fight of my life so i have to be easy to find motivation for me right now take that to the bank brochacho

What's going on with you swochacho?

i have hit my 200 minutes of workout goal for every day of june except for this saturday when my sisterhan came over and we sat outside social distancing and i have also been under my calory goal every day this month even when my sis was around so i am on the straight and narrow and keepin on keepin on and now i have about 7 pounds to go to get to where the docs want me to be so that is all right with me take that to the bank bromigos 

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6 minutes ago, SWC said:

 sisterhan 

I hope I'm not being too forward here, but would it be ok with you if I took her out sometimes?  Nothing inappropriate, I wouldn't take her out for dinner or drinks or anything, just maybe to the bank.

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On 6/14/2020 at 9:52 PM, bostonfred said:

Sorry for my absence recently. I have been absolutely miserable the last couple weeks. Worst case of poison ivy in my life. Couldn't sleep, couldn't exercise without making it much much worse, and I was in an awful mood between lack of sleep, discomfort and work of course picking up at the worst time. Drank more than I should have, ate comfort foods I usually don't... just a bad stretch. 

But i didn't stop running altogether- even though it hurt I still ran a couple times a week. And I ran tonight and feel like I'm done with the worst of it, finally. So, I'm back to it.  Myfitnesspal is back on, had a good day today, and I'm ready to build on it tomorrow. 

I feel like I'm getting good at returning to the diet after a Fattening 

day one regret everything, feel like I'm going to have a hard time with this, carb and alcohol cravings still in effect, scale looks absurdly bad

day two, emptying out, realizing how not hungry I really am because I've been overeating

day three, still have some bloat and carb cravings but I feel like this is normal again 

Gradually increasing the running back to pre poison ivy levels and for the first time in weeks I didn't feel awful afterwards. Slept like a baby too without alcohol or calamine. It was glorious. 

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3 hours ago, bostonfred said:

I feel like I'm getting good at returning to the diet after a Fattening 

day one regret everything, feel like I'm going to have a hard time with this, carb and alcohol cravings still in effect, scale looks absurdly bad

day two, emptying out, realizing how not hungry I really am because I've been overeating

day three, still have some bloat and carb cravings but I feel like this is normal again 

Gradually increasing the running back to pre poison ivy levels and for the first time in weeks I didn't feel awful afterwards. Slept like a baby too without alcohol or calamine. It was glorious. 

I really struggle with reducing carbs.   It’s easier for me to stop drinking booze.   I’m going to use you as motivation.   

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9 minutes ago, DocHolliday said:

I really struggle with reducing carbs.   It’s easier for me to stop drinking booze.   I’m going to use you as motivation.   

I'm not a keto guy although I did it 20 years ago when it was called Atkins and it did work for a while.  What made it work was getting excited about the foods you were allowed to have while dieting. Instead of thinking of it as "reducing carbs", maybe try watching your calories, and pick some high protein and fat foods you really like. 

Steak tips with grilled peppers and onions and a side of broccoli or some other high fiber veggies. 

Make up a stir fry but instead of a huge serving of rice with some veggies and meat, try using two eggs and half a serving of brown rice, whatever vegetables you like (carrots broccoli cauliflower peas onion and scallions all work for me) and a ton of grilled chicken breast or marinated pork. 

Scallops are so good for you and they're pure protein. Take a bunch of scallops, pat them down with a paper towel, let them air dry and then pat them down again to get any water out, then heat up an empty pan on medium high, add a dot of olive oil and wait for it to spread around, add the scallops to the hot pan and let them sear for 2 minutes,  flip and let them sear again. The remaining water will kind of foam out of them while they heat and if you're trying something new, add a splash of beer, wine, or some soy sauce, maybe with some rice wine/rice vinegar. So good. 

Shrimp, salmon, haddock... pretty much any fresh seafood is great. 

Omelettes are awesome. I have posted my favorite way of making eggs - if you're not going full keto or can spare the carbs for a low carb tortilla, try this.  The biggest thing I missed on Atkins was the crunch. The only foods that satisfy that crunch need are carbs but this totally does it. https://www.reddit.com/r/u_ClideRn/comments/gcudt5/_/

A low carb tortilla with black beans, chicken, salsa, guacamole and some shredded cheese tastes awesome.  

So many good foods you can have if you're trying to cut carbs. And if you're not strictly cutting carbs, potatoes (and sweet potatoes) are a great way to get some carby goodness without blowing up your calorie totals. 

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After being relatively stagnant for the past few weeks I decided to really focus on the diet and cut out the snacks that were adding garbage points. 
 

Weighed in at 227.1 this morning (down 2.5 this week, 30.6 since 1/1/20). This is my lightest weight in 6 years.

It is also interesting (to me) that I have not run at all. I am still exceeding 15k steps, but doing so by taking 2 long walks / day.

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so i had a cardiac rehab appointment yesterday and they basically told me to tone it down on the exercise as my blood pressure is now like 80 something over 40 something and told me to drink a lot more fluid and eat more calories every day so i think that 200 minutes a day may be a thing of the past but i will keep on keepin on and gettin er dun brohans dont worry about that take that to the bank 

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1 hour ago, SWC said:

so i had a cardiac rehab appointment yesterday and they basically told me to tone it down on the exercise as my blood pressure is now like 80 something over 40 something and told me to drink a lot more fluid and eat more calories every day so i think that 200 minutes a day may be a thing of the past but i will keep on keepin on and gettin er dun brohans dont worry about that take that to the bank 

Take that to the online banking app for now brohan and take care of your swcheart 

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M, T, W and today's update...

Monday was a 45 Minute walk/run and I popped my 1st hip flexor while running. :towelwave:

Tuesday: I cycled for about 60 Minutes to stretch out my hip and I figured out there is almost no impact cycling, meaning I didn't really find a lot of discomfort from that hip flexor. I also played Tennis in the evening for about 2 hours and and I injured that hip a little more on the very last shot of the night. 😆

Wed: I cycled for about an hour. 

Thur: I cycled for 45 minutes in the rain, yuck!

I'm at around 1,300 Minutes for the Month.  

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On 6/17/2020 at 2:13 PM, DocHolliday said:

I really struggle with reducing carbs.   It’s easier for me to stop drinking booze.   I’m going to use you as motivation.   

Hey Doc, I used to love carbs like everything in the Bakery section of the grocery store. 

What we are really talking about is sugar, white sugar, and it's in a lot of things. Carbs like the kind you find in oatmeal (27g per serving) help so you aren't craving carbs throughout the day and that's when you grab stuff you shouldn't. 

Once I stopped eating sweets all the time I stopped craving them. I'm sure I'm not the first person to post that in here. But it starts at breakfast, you should try and steer clear of sugar in the morning. I do Oatmeal and some fruit, most of my carbs come from fruit. I buy loads of berries as an example and put them on and in everything like the oatmeal, yogurt and evening desserts with a little tapioca pudding on top of a bed of berries. 

 

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On 6/17/2020 at 8:29 PM, eaganwildcats said:

6783 in 30:00.

@Otis just do it before bed - it's only 30 mins!

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Skipped Thursday but got my 30 mins in yesterday. 68XX in 30:00. Scale indicates it's not helping but I feel better so whatever. 

C'mon @Otis getting bored by myself here. 

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Rained just enough to discourage my walk all morning. I got on the scale and it said I gained four pounds this week, which is complete bs because I ate properly all week but I haven't pooped since Thursday (krista>hi). Then I had my weekly migas and came back home for a nice, long nap. So today is a disaster, but I'll make up for it by getting tuned up and making a terrible food decision late at night.

Back at it tomorrow.

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did 25 miles on my bike today walked for about a 45 minutes and then just golfed 9 holes getting poured on part of the time which was swell my fitness pal says im net negative 630 calories for the day which is going to piss my cardiology nurses off who can see it but hey thats life in the big city take that to the bank bromigos 

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I’ve done nothing. Literally. For weeks.  Zero exercise. A lot of eating and drinking. Father’s Day is it.  Last day of it this. Full on middle aged fat man gut rocking now. Totslly lethargic, want to go to sleep at 8pm or 9pm constantly. This can’t go on. 

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2 hours ago, Otis said:

I’ve done nothing. Literally. For weeks.  Zero exercise. A lot of eating and drinking. Father’s Day is it.  Last day of it this. Full on middle aged fat man gut rocking now. Totslly lethargic, want to go to sleep at 8pm or 9pm constantly. This can’t go on. 

We stand at a crossroads. Maybe we have been at these crossroads a few times before , sure, but this time is different. We have tasted victory. 3+ months of rowing and fasting had us feeling great. Life is not without adversity, however, and suddenly we were waylayed by the ronas. Quarantine sucks, of course, so we dialed back the exercise. The pantry was only mere steps away at all times. The internet full of articles telling us to give ourselves some grace in the hard times. We gave up.

The question we must now ask ourselves - is in ten years when the toddlers are suddenly teenagers playing soccer, or running around the neighborhood, or are at the pool — do we want to be the stereotypical fat dad who, sure, has some money, but otherwise can barely make it up the stairs without being out of breath? Who can’t go on the family walk with the beloved family dog (where the pix, btw?) without devolving into a sweaty mess? Or, do we want to be the dad who can join in the volleyball or soccer game without a second thought? Who is at the beach or at the pool and has the other wives looking sideways at their husbands wondering why they can’t make the effort? 

Make the effort, @Otis, make the effort. 

....6800 something in 30 minutes. 

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On 6/20/2020 at 7:48 PM, Otis said:

I’ve done nothing. Literally. For weeks.  Zero exercise. A lot of eating and drinking. Father’s Day is it.  Last day of it this. Full on middle aged fat man gut rocking now. Totslly lethargic, want to go to sleep at 8pm or 9pm constantly. This can’t go on. 

I’ve fallen in this trap as well, feel awful and need to cut weight. Have been walking but the eating and booze during quarantine has put me in a hole. Have a foot issue where running has been taken from me, teach me your secrets people. Need to shed this quarantine flab. 

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On 6/20/2020 at 7:48 PM, Otis said:

I’ve done nothing. Literally. For weeks.  Zero exercise. A lot of eating and drinking. Father’s Day is it.  Last day of it this. Full on middle aged fat man gut rocking now. Totslly lethargic, want to go to sleep at 8pm or 9pm constantly. This can’t go on. 

Show me what 3 days of trying looks like and I'll put in the effort to help you get back on track 

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9 hours ago, bostonfred said:

Show me what 3 days of trying looks like and I'll put in the effort to help you get back on track 

I’m in. I’m devoted. It’s time. 
 

Did a 30 min row this morning. 
I will eat well (healthy) today. 
I will not drink alcohol today. 

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Had a good chat with Mrs. O this morning.  She’s also put on some weight and feels pretty miserable about it.  She is serious about this too.  It’s always so much easy and much more prone to success when we’re on the same page.  She’s thinking about taking a good month off from drinking, maybe more, and after that never returning to weekday drinking.  So, we’re all in.

 

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6 minutes ago, Otis said:

Had a good chat with Mrs. O this morning.  She’s also put on some weight and feels pretty miserable about it.  She is serious about this too.  It’s always so much easy and much more prone to success when we’re on the same page.  She’s thinking about taking a good month off from drinking, maybe more, and after that never returning to weekday drinking.  So, we’re all in.

 

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Cannot engage motivation for more than a day or two.  I think I just need to do keto again, as its the only thing I can get quick results with to keep my motivation going.  We're going to get 30 days notice for when we need to return to the office.  That will ultimately be when I start, as I won't be able to motivate myself before then.  I do need to lose some weight to get back into my work clothes though.

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walked for 100 minutes biked for 60 and did 20 mins of workout and hit my food goal with ease just get 7 days under your belt than do 14 and so on the first three weeks are hard and after that its easy peasy nice and easy take that to the bank brohans  

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Ate healthy yesterday after my morning row, and didn’t drink. 
 

Let’s make it a streak. Rowed 40 minutes this morning, another healthy day ahead with no alcohol. 

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If I was going out for a 3 mile jog/walk/run.....which would be better for me?

1.  Get it done in 35 minutes with mostly jogging.

2.  Get it done in 60 minutes with more of a mix of walking/jogging/etc.

Health benefits and calories burned would be fairly close, right?

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14 minutes ago, eoMMan said:

If I was going out for a 3 mile jog/walk/run.....which would be better for me?

1.  Get it done in 35 minutes with mostly jogging.

2.  Get it done in 60 minutes with more of a mix of walking/jogging/etc.

Health benefits and calories burned would be fairly close, right?

I think there is a difference based on HR. Apparently for fat burning (which is what most of us want) you’re best being in the aerobic zone, which is pretty moderate, for longer periods of time. At least that’s my understanding. 

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5 hours ago, eoMMan said:

If I was going out for a 3 mile jog/walk/run.....which would be better for me?

1.  Get it done in 35 minutes with mostly jogging.

2.  Get it done in 60 minutes with more of a mix of walking/jogging/etc.

Health benefits and calories burned would be fairly close, right?

I always think longer is a little better, less time to eat snacks. 

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15 hours ago, eoMMan said:

If I was going out for a 3 mile jog/walk/run.....which would be better for me?

1.  Get it done in 35 minutes with mostly jogging.

2.  Get it done in 60 minutes with more of a mix of walking/jogging/etc.

Health benefits and calories burned would be fairly close, right?

Time isn't free, but 1 is only optimal to 2 if you can consistently do it without developing an injury. Without more info I would suggest alternating between the two. 

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I've been on the road a lot the last several days and I wanted to update this group with all the good work we have done. 

-I got to walk around Sunset Park which sits in the Pasadena section of St Pete, FL with pretty brick roads and lots of gorgeous little water views. Stayed at the historic Crystal Bay Hotel which sits right across from this gorgeous park. I was up and at 'em about 6:30-6:45 in the morning much to my son's chagrin. Point is I walked at least 60 minutes and made exercise an important part of my travel which I never do. I made sure not to eat things that would trigger digestion problems, so my son order something deep fried, dad has a chix salad and a light beer. It's a different mind set all together when I go out. It was like I was still at home, just in a different city. 

F, S, Sun, all of those days had minimum 60-90 minute walks sometimes more than one a day. 

Monday I did not exercise at all, and since March 20th that's really the first day that has happened. One day I let the challenge slide but I still was painting but Monday I didn't lift a finger except at the driver who cut me of. 

I did mention this group and many by name in the JP Morgan thread at the end, I hope you'll have a look. 

I'm somewhere in the 1750 Minute range for the month and I am playing Tennis 4x this week, the reception I have received has been amazing. Still nursing the left hip flexor, comes and goes. 

And Finally...you want to know what I weigh? I was expecting something like 190-Something after traveling to see my son, I always pack on weight because we eat like Middle School Brats for 3-4 days and I just can't keep pace with him. 

184 even. I think Tennis stripped me of some water weight last night but I am already past the goal this month of about 5 lbs and I am starting to think I could keep sliding into the 170s and further, even at almost 6-3, I have a soft middle and there's work to do. I need to lift more free weights. 

You guys have helped me strip 36 lbs off this frame since March 20th, thank you!

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On 6/20/2020 at 7:48 PM, Otis said:

I’ve done nothing. Literally. For weeks.  Zero exercise. A lot of eating and drinking. Father’s Day is it.  Last day of it this. Full on middle aged fat man gut rocking now. Totslly lethargic, want to go to sleep at 8pm or 9pm constantly. This can’t go on. 

I fall for this every time. 

I had a longer post and cut it. Start ROWING!!!

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23 hours ago, eaganwildcats said:

Got my 30 mins in. 

Me too. Day 3 in a row. Also Day 3 of eating like a normal human (I did have pizza today, but my only meal) and not drinking alcohol. Though work is slaying me and I really wanted some wine tonight... thank goodness Mrs O stayed strong on that, I would have cracked. 

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1 hour ago, Otis said:

Me too. Day 3 in a row. Also Day 3 of eating like a normal human (I did have pizza today, but my only meal) and not drinking alcohol. Though work is slaying me and I really wanted some wine tonight... thank goodness Mrs O stayed strong on that, I would have cracked. 

Seriously? Same here, just tore up two 18" slices this afternoon. Yogurt breakfast but not much else. 

But I had a beer and I'm about to crack another. 

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9 hours ago, Otis said:

Me too. Day 3 in a row. Also Day 3 of eating like a normal human (I did have pizza today, but my only meal) and not drinking alcohol. Though work is slaying me and I really wanted some wine tonight... thank goodness Mrs O stayed strong on that, I would have cracked. 

On 6/21/2020 at 10:47 PM, bostonfred said:

Show me what 3 days of trying looks like and I'll put in the effort to help you get back on track 

Nice. Let's do this. 

Are you open to tracking calories? Or going al fresco and trusting your ability to keep your intake down while you do some rowing?  Please don't say fad diet.

Do you have a goal?  A target weight?  Do you need one?  How long are you planning to commit for?  

How are you going to stay motivated this time?  Rely on your wife to push you? Post your results in the thread?  Do you want to do a biggest loser bet with someone again?  

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