Otis fad diet thread — Now kind of a rowing thread (but also let’s not be fat)

[krista4 23,912]

fred, the "beginner" you gave everyone is not the same you did before, right?  I had done "HOME," and I think you did, too?

[DA RAIDERS 4,526]

2 minutes ago, krista4 said:

fred, the "beginner" you gave everyone is not the same you did before, right?  I had done "HOME," and I think you did, too?

I’m doing 30 days with Adrienne. It’s different than home. 

[krista4 23,912]

Guys, can we just get this down so it doesn't continue to drive me batty?  It's "Adriene."  One "n."  kthx

[krista4 23,912]

1 minute ago, DA RAIDERS said:

I’m doing 30 days with Adrienne. It’s different than home. 

They're all 30 days.  Now I'm confused.

[krista4 23,912]

I wonder if when we were talking about the difficult Day Six, we were talking about different programs.   

[Otis 13,399]

Like a well oiled machine

[DA RAIDERS 4,526]

There are two.

30 days with Andrene 

and home with Andre 

[bostonfred 30,179]

48 minutes ago, krista4 said:

fred, the "beginner" you gave everyone is not the same you did before, right?  I had done "HOME," and I think you did, too?

The one I did was the original one called 30 Days of Yoga with Adriene, from 2015. It's not the same one you did, although Home also does core on day 6.

[bostonfred 30,179]

1 hour ago, Otis said:

May have to pack it in after 50 push ups.  Everything hurts.  There are sore muscles in my ### cheeks that I never knew existed.

Who could have predicted you'd be butt hurt and quit after half a day?

Seriously don't listen to maurile he's not human. Take a rest day from pushups tomorrow and do the hundred pushups program I posted. Or hold off and just do the yoga.  Honestly, after a couple weeks you'll find your pushup game is improved just from the yoga. It is a legit workout. 

[Otis 13,399]

2 minutes ago, bostonfred said:

Who could have predicted you'd be butt hurt and quit after half a day?

Seriously don't listen to maurile he's not human. Take a rest day from pushups tomorrow and do the hundred pushups program I posted. Or hold off and just do the yoga.  Honestly, after a couple weeks you'll find your pushup game is improved just from the yoga. It is a legit workout. 

Oh I ain’t quitting, will press on. Just going to go with 50 push ups a day instead of 100 (along with rowing, and stupidyoga). 
 

ETA probably a good idea. I will go with your program, sounds more manageable. 

Edited August 4, 2020 by Otis

[krista4 23,912]

12 minutes ago, bostonfred said:

The one I did was the original one called 30 Days of Yoga with Adriene, from 2015. It's not the same one you did, although Home also does core on day 6.

Oh.    I've been talking about something different the whole time.

[Dickies 9,331]

So I decided to open the yoga up to my 8 year olds, which may have been a mistake. About 10 minutes in my daughter, who is the tiniest girl in her grade, let’s out what might have been the biggest fart I’ve heard in my entire life, right as Adrienne said “Now exhaaaaale”. Then during the final 5 minutes my son is constantly saying “Oh Em Gee!  Look at how much daddy is sweating!  DISGUSTING!”

That was harder than expected, but I feel pretty good right now. I would probably die doing that hot room yoga with the amount of sweat I generated in my air conditioned house. 

[krista4 23,912]

Just now, Dickies said:

Adrienne

Please see above.  But excellent work by you and the fam!

[krista4 23,912]

@bostonfred, did you notice that one of our "COURAGE" days is over an hour?!?!  

[Dickies 9,331]

8 minutes ago, krista4 said:

Please see above.  But excellent work by you and the fam!

Did it drive you batty?

[DA RAIDERS 4,526]

1 hour ago, krista4 said:

Please see above.  But excellent work by you and the fam!

Andrea

[fred_1_15301 5,473]

For those of you who really struggled with day one (beginners version), you are in for a battle.     But keep at it.  

Edited August 4, 2020 by fred_1_15301

[bostonfred 30,179]

1 hour ago, fred_1_15301 said:

For those of you who really struggled with day one (beginners version), you are in for a battle.     But keep at it.  

Eh. It's a good program because it builds your strength up.  There were poses we did early on that I struggled with that are easy now.  I remember thinking downward facing dog was hard and then I remember Adriene saying that she felt the same way when she started and couldn't believe that they called it a "rest pose" but now she's progressed.  I totally feel the same way. It didn't take long before I got used to it and built some arm strength and had the calf flexibility to touch my heels to the floor if I wanted to or "pedal it out" like she says.  It gets a lot easier.  But it's part of the process. 

I also know that there are poses that are more difficult for me than others and vice versa. I have no problem sitting criss cross applesauce but I have a hard time with sun salutations when she's barking out forward fold lift to flat back then back to forward fold. It takes me longer to fold than a twenty something with 4 percent body fat. It's not a big deal. I go at my pace, and I don't go as slowly to mountain pose because I don't want to short change that next plank or warrior two or whatever. 

It's such a good whole body exercise. I definitely feel better and can see a difference in my ability to do these poses, but also see some differences in the mirror too. 

Stick with it, newbs, and keep up with the reports for our entertainment and so the next group of newbs can read your progress and know that they will get there too. 

[Otis 13,399]

@eaganwildcats, I did the St Catherine’s row on asensei this morning. Hardest one yet by far. That was a full 45 mins (with some rest sessions where I kept rowing lightly), and I almost ended up rowing a full 10K. Good workout.  Hit all my splits, some of which were a little challenging at the end there. 
 

Can’t wait to bend all my hurty parts with the cute girl this afternoon. 

Edited August 4, 2020 by Otis

[DocHolliday 3,950]

7 hours ago, krista4 said:

Please see above.  But excellent work by you and the fam!

Yo Adrian.  I did it!    

- is what I hear in my head after seeing Adrienne or Adriene or whatever the name is.   

[eaganwildcats 845]

7 minutes ago, Otis said:

@eaganwildcats, I did the St Catherine’s row on asensei this morning. Hardest one yet by far. That was a full 45 mins (with some rest sessions where I kept rowing lightly), and I almost ended up rowing a full 10K. Good workout.  Hit all my splits, some of which were a little challenging at the end there. 
 

Can’t wait to bend all my hurty parts with the cute girl this afternoon. 

Is that what it recommended you or did you just pick it? I have "low and slow" ahead of me today it appears. 

[Zasada 3,352]

Dew Point of 61F this morning.  Even though temps were still high (77F), the lower DP made things a bit less "ugh".

ETA:  Dammit, wrong thread.  This isn't the one where we obsess about the weather.  Nevermind!

Edited August 4, 2020 by Zasada

[[icon] 9,569]

What's up! The Yoga mention pulled me in. 
 

Have been doing nightly walks/jogs with the GF since near the start of lockdown. Usually about ~3miles. Nothing crazy but has been a nice evening ritual. Keep a good pace that has heart rate up and ya good and sweaty. 
 

Started working in some basic dumbbell exercises at the start of July (have Bowflex Adjustables). Mid July I hit up a buddy's wife for a more detailed plan, as she's a published ASCM-CPT from her days in NYC. She got all into it and I now have an alternating 2 day workout that's pretty thorough using just 2 dumbbells and body weight. Been increasing weight gradually, and she's reviewing my progress and adjusting the program weekly.

Generally 7-8 exercises a day, 2 sets per exercise. I knock it out in about 30mins between morning meetings, while watching the news. Use Gymaholic app to track. Nice app. 

Had started doing the 2 days then taking a rest day (to mitigate injury) but quickly started lifting every day. Actually felt better doing that so it was Interesting reading Maurile's comments on rest days above. 

Have also started using MyFitnessPal again to track caloric input and macros. Going high protein. Gf is using Noom so Ive been building our meal plans around their Green>Yellow>Red principle. That's been helpful guidance too. Lots of veggies, way more rice and potatoes for starches and cut almost all pasta, lean(ish) proteins like cod, chicken breast, tuna, shrimp, sirloin. 

I'm feeling better than I have in years. Resting heart rate is down ~15bpm. Body starting to tighten up. Already seeing definition surfacing in a few areas. Energy levels increasing. Generally just "feel great" (that body buzz you get). 

The question: 

Been doing good at sticking with it so far. Have been thinking about adding Yoga to the mix for flexibility. Is that something you can do 1-2 days a week and pick up results (flexibility mostly)? Or is it something that needs frequency to have any real impact? 

I want to keep strength training at least 5 days a week... my body has typically responded most quickly to it... cutting fat and changing my body shape. That said my flexibility is diminishing with age and I'd like to fight that a bit. 
 

TIA. 

Edited August 4, 2020 by [icon]

[fred_1_15301 5,473]

1 hour ago, bostonfred said:

Eh. It's a good program because it builds your strength up.  There were poses we did early on that I struggled with that are easy now.  I remember thinking downward facing dog was hard and then I remember Adriene saying that she felt the same way when she started and couldn't believe that they called it a "rest pose" but now she's progressed.  I totally feel the same way. It didn't take long before I got used to it and built some arm strength and had the calf flexibility to touch my heels to the floor if I wanted to or "pedal it out" like she says.  It gets a lot easier.  But it's part of the process. 

I also know that there are poses that are more difficult for me than others and vice versa. I have no problem sitting criss cross applesauce but I have a hard time with sun salutations when she's barking out forward fold lift to flat back then back to forward fold. It takes me longer to fold than a twenty something with 4 percent body fat. It's not a big deal. I go at my pace, and I don't go as slowly to mountain pose because I don't want to short change that next plank or warrior two or whatever. 

It's such a good whole body exercise. I definitely feel better and can see a difference in my ability to do these poses, but also see some differences in the mirror too. 

Stick with it, newbs, and keep up with the reports for our entertainment and so the next group of newbs can read your progress and know that they will get there too. 

Yup I know.  I was mainly messing around as my intent is not to discourage anyone.  This isn't the thread for that.  It does get harder but the body also adapts.  That's why I said "keep at it".  

On another note, I find it hard to believe that Adriene actually struggled at this at one point.  She makes these stretches look so effortless.  

 

[Otis 13,399]

3 hours ago, eaganwildcats said:

Is that what it recommended you or did you just pick it? I have "low and slow" ahead of me today it appears. 

That’s what it recommended next.  Did you ever do that one?

[Poke_4_Life 2,051]

We're now 4 days in with YWA, doing the 30-day one from 2015.  Day 4 is back.  My lower back has always been a problem spot for me so I really liked this one.  It seemed like the easiest so far as well. 

Still the shoulder work in just basic downward dog has my shoulders 'hot' right now, and I can feel it in my core and glutes/hams.

Keep it up!

[krista4 23,912]

3 hours ago, [icon] said:

What's up! The Yoga mention pulled me in. 
 

Have been doing nightly walks/jogs with the GF since near the start of lockdown. Usually about ~3miles. Nothing crazy but has been a nice evening ritual. Keep a good pace that has heart rate up and ya good and sweaty. 
 

Started working in some basic dumbbell exercises at the start of July (have Bowflex Adjustables). Mid July I hit up a buddy's wife for a more detailed plan, as she's a published ASCM-CPT from her days in NYC. She got all into it and I now have an alternating 2 day workout that's pretty thorough using just 2 dumbbells and body weight. Been increasing weight gradually, and she's reviewing my progress and adjusting the program weekly.

Generally 7-8 exercises a day, 2 sets per exercise. I knock it out in about 30mins between morning meetings, while watching the news. Use Gymaholic app to track. Nice app. 

Had started doing the 2 days then taking a rest day (to mitigate injury) but quickly started lifting every day. Actually felt better doing that so it was Interesting reading Maurile's comments on rest days above. 

Have also started using MyFitnessPal again to track caloric input and macros. Going high protein. Gf is using Noom so Ive been building our meal plans around their Green>Yellow>Red principle. That's been helpful guidance too. Lots of veggies, way more rice and potatoes for starches and cut almost all pasta, lean(ish) proteins like cod, chicken breast, tuna, shrimp, sirloin. 

I'm feeling better than I have in years. Resting heart rate is down ~15bpm. Body starting to tighten up. Already seeing definition surfacing in a few areas. Energy levels increasing. Generally just "feel great" (that body buzz you get). 

The question: 

Been doing good at sticking with it so far. Have been thinking about adding Yoga to the mix for flexibility. Is that something you can do 1-2 days a week and pick up results (flexibility mostly)? Or is it something that needs frequency to have any real impact? 

I want to keep strength training at least 5 days a week... my body has typically responded most quickly to it... cutting fat and changing my body shape. That said my flexibility is diminishing with age and I'd like to fight that a bit. 
 

TIA. 

Paging @urbanhack

[eaganwildcats 845]

1 hour ago, Otis said:

That’s what it recommended next.  Did you ever do that one?

Negative. Weird. 

[DA RAIDERS 4,526]

@[icon] short answer, yes.  2 will be better than 1.  with these super short sessions with Adriene, it's pretty easy to add to any workout.  and the beginner ones are fairly easy.  

[Otis 13,399]

13 minutes ago, eaganwildcats said:

Negative. Weird. 

I had a minor glitch early on where it didn’t seem to register at first that I’d done the 1,000 meters (I had).  So I went ahead and did the ladders thing anyway.  Then I think I went back and did the 1,000, or it just advanced me (I forget which), but anyway this is where I’ve ended up.  

I paid for the subscription, no idea if that has anything to do with it.  

[Otis 13,399]

Day 2 of pain poses was great.  I like how she keeps telling me to focus on my intentions, as I can feel ligaments and cartilage detaching from bone.

 

Also, bet you guys didn’t know that you can stand on the tops of your feet too.  Turns out that’s a thing. And it feels super great.

 

Thanks Adriene!

[bostonfred 30,179]

 

Hi yoga people. Day 2 of 30 days is today for those of us doing this together, but anyone can start at any time. 

For those of us doing the beginner flow (the original 2015 30 days of yoga) https://youtu.be/TB2ISQZ5Mb0

For those doing the more advanced June 2020 Courage program, today's video is a short one - not even 20 minutes https://youtu.be/3NtNAQodk8E

@krista4 @fred_1_15301 @Otis @DA RAIDERS @eaganwildcats @Dickies @Ministry of Pain @[icon] 

[bostonfred 30,179]

14 minutes ago, Otis said:

Day 2 of pain poses was great

Lol

[Dickies 9,331]

Maybe it's just me, but one of my biggest problems with the yoga is that I have no idea what any of the moves are, so I have to keep craning my neck to see what she is doing.  While in positions where my head is down, it gets uncomfortable.  I'm assuming that you start to pick up what to do just by her voice by the time we're on day 30?

[fred_1_15301 5,473]

3 minutes ago, Dickies said:

Maybe it's just me, but one of my biggest problems with the yoga is that I have no idea what any of the moves are, so I have to keep craning my neck to see what she is doing.  While in positions where my head is down, it gets uncomfortable.  I'm assuming that you start to pick up what to do just by her voice by the time we're on day 30?

You're correct.  Give it a few days and you'll start to pick up the moves without having to look up much.

[Otis 13,399]

4 minutes ago, Dickies said:

Maybe it's just me, but one of my biggest problems with the yoga is that I have no idea what any of the moves are, so I have to keep craning my neck to see what she is doing.  While in positions where my head is down, it gets uncomfortable.  I'm assuming that you start to pick up what to do just by her voice by the time we're on day 30?

I have the same problem too.  It's funny because it's so natural for her.  She's like "ok, now if you want you can fold into a baby crab here, or otherwise just transition from a chupacabra into a downward sardine or back towards a silly cobra, you know the way."  Meanwhile I have no idea wtf she's talking about.

[Dickies 9,331]

1 minute ago, Otis said:

I have the same problem too.  It's funny because it's so natural for her.  She's like "ok, now if you want you can fold into a baby crab here, or otherwise just transition from a chupacabra into a downward sardine or back towards a silly cobra, you know the way."  Meanwhile I have no idea wtf she's talking about.

I look at the position, see the arm placement, then try to replicate and quickly realize my body cannot contort itself into even the same general concept, but she makes it look totally effortless.  

But hey, we're doing it and we can only get better at it. 

[Dickies 9,331]

8 minutes ago, fred_1_15301 said:

You're correct.  Give it a few days and you'll start to pick up the moves without having to look up much.

I will still probably look up because she's hot.

[urbanhack 12,179]

1 hour ago, krista4 said:

Paging @urbanhack

Yes...if you do yoga 1 to 2 times a week and you give a full 4 to 6 weeks...you will definitely see results.

[Maurile Tremblay 22,276]

9 minutes ago, Otis said:

I have the same problem too.  It's funny because it's so natural for her.  She's like "ok, now if you want you can fold into a baby crab here, or otherwise just transition from a chupacabra into a downward sardine or back towards a silly cobra, you know the way."  Meanwhile I have no idea wtf she's talking about.

Sometimes it seems like yoga is an elaborate hoax dreamed up by jwvdcw.

[urbanhack 12,179]

17 minutes ago, Dickies said:

Maybe it's just me, but one of my biggest problems with the yoga is that I have no idea what any of the moves are, so I have to keep craning my neck to see what she is doing.  While in positions where my head is down, it gets uncomfortable.  I'm assuming that you start to pick up what to do just by her voice by the time we're on day 30?

I do not like doing yoga on TV or video.  In a classroom setting you can also look at the student next to you or in front of you or the instructor. I find it much easier in the classroom, but know that is not an option for all most all of us right now.

Once you get used to the terminology and the transition between positions (full sun salutation or some of the variations) then it starts to become easier.

[DA RAIDERS 4,526]

  there's a flow to yoga, that you will start to get as you go along.  Ariel is pretty constant with her moves.  forward fold, half lift, back down, plank, down dog, lunge, warrior.  give it a chance.

[fred_1_15301 5,473]

5 minutes ago, DA RAIDERS said:

Ariel

 

[bostonfred 30,179]

55 minutes ago, Dickies said:

Maybe it's just me, but one of my biggest problems with the yoga is that I have no idea what any of the moves are, so I have to keep craning my neck to see what she is doing.  While in positions where my head is down, it gets uncomfortable.  I'm assuming that you start to pick up what to do just by her voice by the time we're on day 30?

I watched on a tablet that I put on the floor next to my mat when I started. Moved it around if i needed to or paused it once in a rare while. If I were starting over I might even try watching it on the tv and tablet at the same time with the volume off on one.  

[DA RAIDERS 4,526]

And for the yoga noobs, it’s totally ok if you’re not perfect. Hint, none of us are. I got lost, in one of today’s practices with Aryanna 

oh, and F the side planks that finished day 16. 

[Otis 13,399]

PS I don’t have a mat.  I do it on a carpet on a hardwood floor.  It’s fun sitting on my knees and ankles. Helps me understand my intention, which is to get up and go find something else to do that isn’t painful. 

[DA RAIDERS 4,526]

28 minutes ago, Otis said:

PS I don’t have a mat.  I do it on a carpet on a hardwood floor.  It’s fun sitting on my knees and ankles. Helps me understand my intention, which is to get up and go find something else to do that isn’t painful. 

  the mats don't do much.  i am doing mine on the carpet.  for any long stretches of time on the knees, i put a folded blanket under them.

[fred_1_15301 5,473]

57 minutes ago, DA RAIDERS said:

  the mats don't do much.  i am doing mine on the carpet.  for any long stretches of time on the knees, i put a folded blanket under them.

True but I’m not sure I would want to be doing it on hardwood floors.

ETA - oops misread his post

Edited August 4, 2020 by fred_1_15301

[Otis 13,399]

Well, two days in. Didn’t do any pushups today but that’s ok because Sarah has me doing dancing frog poses aplenty, and that was after a pretty killer row. 
 

Imma really do this 28 more days?  Tf???

[bostonfred 30,179]

Day 2 of Courage was unexpectedly easy, which was good timing because it was also a hundredpushups.com day. I'm still early in the program so it was five sets of 10+ but supposedly I'll be doing 100 plus in a few weeks. The one modification I'm taking is I'm going to give myself more than a minute between sets. Not like 5 minutes or anything, but I think my form suffers too much if I try to push through. Did a couple miles on the treadmill to finish the day. It's a lot of total time exercising but spread out throughout my day and most of it is just habit now so it's been pretty easy to sustain.