Why would anyone need an assault rifle?

[-fish- 13,791]

4 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said:

Educated?

The funny part is he knows I've had him on ignore for over a year but he still chases me from thread to thread responding to my posts.   I guess one day he hopes someone will quote a real zinger and I'll regret choosing to ignore his drivel.  That will show me!

[Hawkeye21 4,165]

5 minutes ago, KCitons said:

Not the word I was thinking of.

Imagine walking around using 10 words when 5 will do. Using words that nobody understands. And then complaining that everyone you meet thinks you're a pretentious jerk. 

If it was me, I'd take it out on strangers on a random message board too.  

Maybe America has just gotten dumber and has resorted to using fewer words because they're lazy?

[KCitons 4,164]

3 minutes ago, -fish- said:

The funny part is he knows I've had him on ignore for over a year but he still chases me from thread to thread responding to my posts.   I guess one day he hopes someone will quote a real zinger and I'll regret choosing to ignore his drivel.  That will show me!

 

I never said I was ignoring you. 

[KCitons 4,164]

2 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said:

Maybe America has just gotten dumber and has resorted to using fewer words because they're lazy?

Maybe......

 

 

 

...Nah.

[Ditkaless Wonders 16,251]

33 minutes ago, -fish- said:

He's a mensch.

Will be interesting to hear if yiddish is somehow thought of as elitist.  Can the language of the ghettos evolve to elitist?  No question it has been evolving, at least in this country.

[Ditkaless Wonders 16,251]

27 minutes ago, -fish- said:

Have to admit I had to look that one up.

I bet it did not hurt you one bit to do so.

[-fish- 13,791]

5 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said:

Maybe America has just gotten dumber and has resorted to using fewer words because they're lazy?

"It's a beautiful thing, the destruction of words."

[Ditkaless Wonders 16,251]

15 minutes ago, KCitons said:

Not the word I was thinking of.

Imagine walking around using 10 words when 5 will do. Using words that nobody understands. And then complaining that everyone you meet thinks you're a pretentious jerk. 

If it was me, I'd take it out on strangers on a random message board too.  

Here's one of which you may not fully appreciate the meaning.

[KCitons 4,164]

Just now, Ditkaless Wonders said:

Here's one of which you may not fully appreciate the meaning.

My mistake. Thank you for correcting me. 

I will edit my post.

[-fish- 13,791]

 

1 minute ago, Ditkaless Wonders said:

I bet it did not hurt you one bit to do so.

It did result in some subconscious process that my brain filed away "fulminating" somewhere in the neighborhood of "frumious" which in turn caused me to wonder if I still knew all of the words to Jabberwocky.   Turns out I do.  So it did waste quite a bit more time than I expected.

[Ditkaless Wonders 16,251]

2 minutes ago, KCitons said:

My mistake. Thank you for correcting me. 

I will edit my post.

If you are going to take the trouble perhaps you would consider changing pretentious jerk to boorish mooncalf.

[KCitons 4,164]

Just now, Ditkaless Wonders said:

If you are going to take the trouble perhaps you would consider changing pretentious jerk to boorish mooncalf.

No, I'm good with that part of my post. Pretentious jerk is a term that I, as well as others, are familiar with. Boorish mooncalf may be mistaken for a compliment by those that don't understand it's meaning. I'm trying to reach a larger audience. 

[-fish- 13,791]

3 minutes ago, Ditkaless Wonders said:

If you are going to take the trouble perhaps you would consider changing pretentious jerk to boorish mooncalf.

How about woolly-headed weisenheimer?   More alliterative.

[KarmaPolice 17,080]

I wish you all would stop using 3 big words and talk down to my level.  This is why people voted for Trump! 

[-fish- 13,791]

Just now, KarmaPolice said:

I wish you all would stop using 3 big words and talk down to my level.  This is why people voted for Trump! 

Guns good.  Booze bad.  Big words hurt head.

[Ditkaless Wonders 16,251]

2 minutes ago, -fish- said:

How about woolly-headed weisenheimer?   More alliterative.

Nice.

[KCitons 4,164]

1 minute ago, KarmaPolice said:

I wish you all would stop using 3 big words and talk down to my level.  This is why people voted for Trump! 

Don't worry, Fish will help you with the big words. 

 

[unckeyherb 1,488]

20 minutes ago, beef said:

ARs help those suffering from small penis disease.  

 

Good contribution!

[-fish- 13,791]

rather than question

who needs an assault weapon

buy dictionaries

[KarmaPolice 17,080]

25 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said:

Maybe America has just gotten dumber and has resorted to using fewer words because they're lazy?

I think this has a bit to do with it.  Look back at the books written 50+ years ago, the language used, and the age we were reading them.  

[Ditkaless Wonders 16,251]

9 minutes ago, KCitons said:

No, I'm good with that part of my post. Pretentious jerk is a term that I, as well as others, are familiar with. Boorish mooncalf may be mistaken for a compliment by those that don't understand it's meaning. I'm trying to reach a larger audience. 

No worries.  I have been a bit truculent the past few days.  I have no problem with you being you, as I think you know.  Also, I am often in agreement with your points, if not the manner of delivery of the points. Keep performing the valuable service of raising issues, though I would encourage considering some new analogies, my reason being it is difficult to hear the reasoning behind analogies that may have grown overly familiar.

 

You are good people in my book.  Hell I was poking at you a bit and you kept it in good humor, not something everyone manages.   

Edited July 25, 2019 by Ditkaless Wonders

[KCitons 4,164]

6 minutes ago, KarmaPolice said:

I think this has a bit to do with it.  Look back at the books written 50+ years ago, the language used, and the age we were reading them.  

Books? Look at movies, TV, news (written or television). It's all gone downhill. 

But, if you think the answer is to use an expanded vocabulary on a message board while discussing the validity of an AR15. Well then, there's no hope for you. 

[KCitons 4,164]

7 minutes ago, Ditkaless Wonders said:

No worries.  I have been a bit truculent the past few days.  I have no problem with you being you, s I think you know.  Also, I am often in agreement with your points, with not the manner of delivery of the points. Keep performing the valuable service of raising issues though I would encourage considering some new analogies, my reason being it is difficult to hear the reasoning behind analogies that may have grown overly familiar.

 

You are good people in my book.  Hell I was poking at you a bit and you kept it in good humor, not something everyone manages.   

People are going to be the way they are going to be. I can't change that. I either accept them for who they are, or move on. I, unlike others, do not have a long list of people on ignore. (it stands at 1 person currently)  I may not agree with people 99 out of 100 times. But, that one time I may learn something.  I think that tolerance holds a greater value than the ability to create a  post that looks like a  thesaurus. 

As to my analogies. They too, are what they are. I've posted many times about the tragedies of alcohol in this country. I've posted about the effects alcohol have on violence and families. If one person on this board altered their plan, and perhaps it saved one life, then being the butt of the joke is fine with me. If others find it pointless, because of the comparison, then that's something their conscience will have to carry. 

[Ditkaless Wonders 16,251]

42 minutes ago, KCitons said:

People are going to be the way they are going to be. I can't change that. I either accept them for who they are, or move on. I, unlike others, do not have a long list of people on ignore. (it stands at 1 person currently)  I may not agree with people 99 out of 100 times. But, that one time I may learn something.  I think that tolerance holds a greater value than the ability to create a  post that looks like a  thesaurus. 

As to my analogies. They too, are what they are. I've posted many times about the tragedies of alcohol in this country. I've posted about the effects alcohol have on violence and families. If one person on this board altered their plan, and perhaps it saved one life, then being the butt of the joke is fine with me. If others find it pointless, because of the comparison, then that's something their conscience will have to carry. 

Unicuique sua.

[FF Ninja 2,842]

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[bicycle_seat_sniffer 5,109]

so video games huh?

 

What next Dungeons and Dragons plus heavy metal = satanic cult....

 

GOP!!!

[AAABatteries 24,759]

On 7/14/2019 at 12:43 PM, Jayrod said:

Him alone?  No, of course not.

Him and a few million others? Yes.

The notion that the entire point of the 2nd amendment is moot because no one person can't defend against the US Army is ridiculous.

Never said alone - you will never get a few million people and honestly I'm not sure if you did that you wouldn't have just as many rise up on the other side.  It's never happening - so yes, a well armed militia to throw over the tyrannic government is nonsense.

[Politician Spock 6,284]

28 minutes ago, AAABatteries said:

Never said alone - you will never get a few million people and honestly I'm not sure if you did that you wouldn't have just as many rise up on the other side.  It's never happening - so yes, a well armed militia to throw over the tyrannic government is nonsense.

A few million with AR15s might be able to take out a few thousand drones before the drones take them all out completely.

Would be entertaining to watch at least.

And even if they do succeed at beating the drones, they would be so weakened by the end that whatever the US military wanted to send in next would be the end of them. 

[Ditkaless Wonders 16,251]

17 minutes ago, Politician Spock said:

A few million with AR15s might be able to take out a few thousand drones before the drones take them all out completely.

Would be entertaining to watch at least.

And even if they do succeed at beating the drones, they would be so weakened by the end that whatever the US military wanted to send in next would be the end of them. 

Standing in a pitched battle with the U.S. military is madness.  Preventing occupation of territory by the military for ongoing purposes would certainly be severely complicated by the number of armed citizens that would have to be policed, or at least it theoretically would.  I say theoretically because most would turn over their firearms to an occupying military quite expeditiously rather than face the consequences for having not done so, super patriots like Tom Brady aside. 

[Politician Spock 6,284]

2 minutes ago, Ditkaless Wonders said:

Standing in a pitched battle with the U.S. military is madness.  Preventing occupation of territory by the military for ongoing purposes would certainly be severely complicated by the number of armed citizens that would have to be policed, or at least it theoretically would.  I say theoretically because most would turn over their firearms to an occupying military quite expeditiously rather than face the consequences for having not done so, super patriots like Tom Brady aside. 

The only way the US military would be beaten is if the rebellion has support from many other countries militaries. At that point all the AR15s the people brought to the arsenal would be utilized as much as the US military uses them.... which is to say, they don't. 

[Sheriff Bart 13,590]

33 minutes ago, Politician Spock said:

A few million with AR15s might be able to take out a few thousand drones before the drones take them all out completely.

Would be entertaining to watch at least.

And even if they do succeed at beating the drones, they would be so weakened by the end that whatever the US military wanted to send in next would be the end of them. 

Re: AR15

Heard a guy call into a talk radio show with the argument you need these because "what are you going to do if 10 guys invade your house?". 

ETA

Also the same old "where will it end" argument.  I was screaming at the radio "you're not allowed to have rocket launchers or nukes either right?!".  He also threw in, repeatedly, "people in Russia and Venzuala gave up their guns now look at them".  Also my personal favorite "look at all of the knife attacks in England. See, people still attack each other.  If they had guns they wouldn't be knifed". 

FFS

Edited August 6, 2019 by Sheriff Bart

[Sheriff Bart 13,590]

I'll never get a million years how the solution is always more guns.

 

Problem

You have cancer

Solution

More cancer

 

Problem

Your house is on fire

Solution

More fire

 

Problem

Too much debt

Solution

More debt

 

Problem

Too many kids

Solution

More kids

 

On and on you could go.

[Ditkaless Wonders 16,251]

22 minutes ago, Politician Spock said:

The only way the US military would be beaten is if the rebellion has support from many other countries militaries. At that point all the AR15s the people brought to the arsenal would be utilized as much as the US military uses them.... which is to say, they don't. 

They might also relinquish their stance on occupying the homeland and fighting against their fellow Americans.  Then again, they may not.  I was playing Devil's advocate, looking for any semblance of relationship, no matter how distant to the original intent and purpose. As a practical matter I am probably 99% in agreement with you on this issue and most permutations of it, as you already know.

[Ditkaless Wonders 16,251]

6 minutes ago, Sheriff Bart said:

I'll never get a million years how the solution is always more guns.

 

Problem

You have cancer

Solution

More cancer

 

Problem

Your house is on fire

Solution

More fire

 

Problem

Too much debt

Solution

More debt

 

Problem

Too many kids

Solution

More kids

 

On and on you could go.

I think I may have an exception that proves the rule.

 

Problem

I am way too high!

Solution

Here, drink this, it will chill you out.

 

[Sheriff Bart 13,590]

8 minutes ago, Ditkaless Wonders said:

I think I may have an exception that proves the rule.

 

Problem

I am way too high!

Solution

Here, drink this, it will chill you out.

 

I knew I was forgetting something.

[msommer 8,980]

23 hours ago, bicycle_seat_sniffer said:

so video games huh?

 

What next Dungeons and Dragons plus heavy metal = satanic cult....

 

GOP!!!

Playing the oldies

[The Z Machine 4,970]

4 hours ago, Politician Spock said:

The only way the US military would be beaten is if the rebellion has support from many other countries militaries. At that point all the AR15s the people brought to the arsenal would be utilized as much as the US military uses them.... which is to say, they don't. 

The only way the US military is beaten in an armed insurrection is if the US military lays down their weapons and stands down instead of massacring the populace.

[bcat01 280]

A good reason

[killface 2,429]

1 hour ago, bcat01 said:

A good reason

So criminals can have a shoot out in their house with other criminals?

[eoMMan 5,660]

1 hour ago, bcat01 said:

A good reason

That article doesn't really explain why another gun wouldn't have worked in that situation. 

[bcat01 280]

6 minutes ago, eoMMan said:

That article doesn't really explain why another gun wouldn't have worked in that situation. 

I agree.  With multiple people in a room a shotgun would not have worked unless you were using slugs which are not near as accurate as an AR-15.  A handgun could have worked, but again an AR-15 is more accurate and easier to control than a handgun.

[KCitons 4,164]

7 minutes ago, bcat01 said:

I agree.  With multiple people in a room a shotgun would not have worked unless you were using slugs which are not near as accurate as an AR-15.  A handgun could have worked, but again an AR-15 is more accurate and easier to control than a handgun.

Can you expand on the bolded and why that would be the case?

[beef 2,789]

 

19 minutes ago, KCitons said:

Can you expand on the bolded and why that would be the case?

Inside a house and at short distances I don't feel the accuracy of the AR vs handgun round or a slug would matter much (assuming 30' or less).  But the low weight, low recoil, smaller grip and lighter trigger pull of an AR I could see being very beneficial to the woman shooter from a stability and control aspect. 

I have seen women miss the target from 10 yards with a 9mm Beretta but never with an AR.  And these were non-hostile situations.

 

Edited November 4, 2019 by beef

[Max Power 4,124]

My buddy used a couple to peacefully deter potential looters at his business in downtown Fayetteville, NC. The protests there weren't too bad, but they did damage several businesses in the area before they headed over to the mall.

I wanted to illustrate a responsible use of these weapons. 

[GoBirds 10,213]

24 minutes ago, Max Power said:

My buddy used a couple to peacefully deter potential looters at his business in downtown Fayetteville, NC. The protests there weren't too bad, but they did damage several businesses in the area before they headed over to the mall.

I wanted to illustrate a responsible use of these weapons. 

This is a good example. Many times I wonder when one would be needed, after seeing the brutal beating of business owners last night I guess these sad circumstances would apply. Sad times.