JPeso
Footballguy
65/1000/8 - 213 PPR, add 7 points for 70 yards of end arounds for 220 PPR, 13.75 PPR PPG. Year 3 jump to 250-260 PPR.
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WR JuJu Smith-Schuster, NE (3 Viewers)
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EBF
Footballguy
From a dynasty standpoint, JuJu is 21 and Brown is 30. Maybe Brown will be one of those guys like Steve Smith who plays great into his 30s, but it's not something I'd count on. Besides, JuJu already showed last year that he can get his.
In dynasty, I'd rather have a really good player who isn't his team's clear #1 than a less talented guy who is in a great situation. The situations change quickly, but a talented player will usually stay good for a while.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
That’s about where I had him in my rankings.Faust said:
The Bell situation could bump that projection ~5%?
Excellent WR2 for FFB purposes. Not exactly commensurate with his sky high ADP at the end of preseason.
Phantom Knight
Footballguy
dcgangstas
Footballguy
rockaction
Footballguy
I'm not sure there are many better WR1 numbers out there, really. Guy dropped 18.6 in standard and 24.60 in PPR (.5) yesterday. That's a day. He's certainly worth his ADP so far.
kittenmittens
Footballguy
Juju is really hard to value in dynasty for me.
He's 21 years old, putting up WR1 numbers and is definitely talented... which makes me want to put him in the top 10 dynasty players as a "cornerstone" type of guy to build around.
Then I look at the other side of it from a long term Dynasty point of view. He's benefiting from defensive focus on Brown, and is running almost all of his routes from the slot. His QB is also 36 years old and has mentioned retirement, and Brown is also 30 years old though showing no signs of slowing down. Should I care that he is 21 if the situation in terms of QB and having Brown taking away defensive attention is sure to change by the time he is 25? Is he so talented that he will retain his value after Ben and Brown decline or move on? Can he produce the same type of elite numbers if he's playing out wide vs the slot? I have some concern in the back of my mind that he's a rich man's Tyler Boyd in the way that he's not really a deep threat and I'm concerned about his ability to separate from elite CBs when he is the primary focus of the defense. He kills it on underneath routes and has great after the catch skills, but what happens if the defense takes that away?
So... I really really like JuJu, but I think I'm probably selling if I can get a "safer" top 15 type of player in return.
Where are you ranking JuJu in Dynasty?
He's 21 years old, putting up WR1 numbers and is definitely talented... which makes me want to put him in the top 10 dynasty players as a "cornerstone" type of guy to build around.
Then I look at the other side of it from a long term Dynasty point of view. He's benefiting from defensive focus on Brown, and is running almost all of his routes from the slot. His QB is also 36 years old and has mentioned retirement, and Brown is also 30 years old though showing no signs of slowing down. Should I care that he is 21 if the situation in terms of QB and having Brown taking away defensive attention is sure to change by the time he is 25? Is he so talented that he will retain his value after Ben and Brown decline or move on? Can he produce the same type of elite numbers if he's playing out wide vs the slot? I have some concern in the back of my mind that he's a rich man's Tyler Boyd in the way that he's not really a deep threat and I'm concerned about his ability to separate from elite CBs when he is the primary focus of the defense. He kills it on underneath routes and has great after the catch skills, but what happens if the defense takes that away?
So... I really really like JuJu, but I think I'm probably selling if I can get a "safer" top 15 type of player in return.
Where are you ranking JuJu in Dynasty?
xrayveggin
Footballguy
Juju dropped a very well placed 9yd fade for a TD late in game - well defended, but should have been caught.
Team Smokin'
Footballguy
Well defended and "could of" refers to was the arm bare in there not allowing him to catch it?xrayveggin said:
Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
Trivia: JuJu Smith-Shuster started out his life as John Smith.
JackReacher
Footballguy
Just bumping this because I have an enormous man crush on this guy
Judge Smails
Footballguy
woulda been even more had Ben not missed him when he was open by 30 yards earlier in the game. Terrible miss by Ben.
gianmarco
Footballguy
joey
Footballguy
He’s WR12 in my non-PPR league right now. Veeeerrrryyyy close to top 10 but, yes, hopefully top 10 into the future.
DJackson10
Footballguy
I really hope JuJu is a top WR relied on weekly. My 10 team keeper league I'm desperate for some talent. I ended up keeping both Wentz/Rodgers (Keep 4) do to Wentz injury and being younger and wanted a good QB I could rely on. Plus the offers I was getting for Rodgers weren't anything I'd pull the trigger on. I got those two RBs of Tevin Coleman, Micheal, M Gordon and Doug Martin and WR Jeffrey, JuJu, Kirk, Tre-Quan Smith and Miller from Chi and Gronk at TE. Gronk is at that stage I might move on from him as in a 4 keeper league he's just not the automatic must have anymore. I haven't had a big time WR since Jordy Nelson and I was an idiot who trade Nuke Hopkins for DeSean Jackson during Hopkins ROY before he played a game.
JoeSteeler
Footballguy
Can't beleive I only have him in 1 dynasty league (drafted @ 2.14)
One league I drafted Kizer ar 2.14 and he went at 3.01 :X :X
One league I drafted Kizer ar 2.09 and he went at 2.13 :X :X
The other two leagues I never had a shot at him (unless I would have traded up, which I may have tried to)
One league I drafted Kizer ar 2.14 and he went at 3.01 :X :X
One league I drafted Kizer ar 2.09 and he went at 2.13 :X :X
The other two leagues I never had a shot at him (unless I would have traded up, which I may have tried to)
EBF
Footballguy
I don't want to break out the champagne just yet, but it's a sweet, sweet feeling in dynasty when you go all-in on a player and he repays your faith in droves. I have him in all five of my dynasty leagues and he's been a massive contributor this season. I can honestly say that I never understood what changed from his sophomore to junior season at USC to cause the draft community to drop him from a consensus first round talent to a late 2nd round pick in the actual draft. I said at the time he was a steal and in this case I got it right. As a long-time Pac-12 watcher, I always felt he was one of the best WR prospects to come out of the league in a long time.
I think he may face some adversity in the future when AB and Ben begin to decline, but all the same you have to be thrilled with what you're seeing. He's like the hybrid of Demaryius Thomas and Anquan Boldin. Has the same deceptive speed/quickness as DT packed onto the monster frame, yet some of the possession chain-mover qualities of Boldin. Should be a perennial 1000 yard guy as long as health permits.
I think he may face some adversity in the future when AB and Ben begin to decline, but all the same you have to be thrilled with what you're seeing. He's like the hybrid of Demaryius Thomas and Anquan Boldin. Has the same deceptive speed/quickness as DT packed onto the monster frame, yet some of the possession chain-mover qualities of Boldin. Should be a perennial 1000 yard guy as long as health permits.
Rhythmdoctor
Footballguy
I can honestly say that I drafted JuJu in my dynasty league based solely on EBF’s analysis. Great call dude! I didn’t know much about him until EBF was hyping him in college.
DJackson10
Footballguy
Kwai Chang Caine
Footballguy
I don't remember the draft order. Could they have had Juju? Ugh....
That and passing up Hunt too. Damn...
Interseptopus
Footballguy
Later game too (afternoon)
At least Lockett plays Sunday night so I can make the switch. I may make that switch anyways with Baldwin banged up and Seattle needing to keep up with KC
irish eyes
Footballguy
If he didn't practice today, there is no way he is playing. I have him so I sure hope I am wrong.
Interseptopus
Footballguy
was hoping he would play but even if he does how effective will he be? I have Lockett and at this point I like a healthy Lockett better than a lame JuJu
Judge Smails
Footballguy
Hah. Have Julio and JuJu. Figures. So much of this is luck
dcgangstas
Footballguy
As a Big Ben owner, I am really concerned. Playing the MacDonald owner in the final (he has Mahomes and Gurley too), so I need that volume to go to Juju.
rockaction
Footballguy
KingPrawn
Footballguy
Lost AJ Green, Emanual Sanders and now possibly JuJu. Hoping he can play but I'm worried about how effective he'll be if he does. Just too many unknowns for my liking. In the championship game can't afford to risk a zero. If he does play, what are the expectations? Or it better to roll out the likes of Daeshawn Hamilton or Foster?
rockaction
Footballguy
Jeez. As for the bolded, talk about limping into the finals from an otherwise great draft. I don't know what to tell you. I've got Moore in Seattle and Gallup in Dallas as back-ups.
Sucks. This game is about luck sometimes.
KingPrawn
Footballguy
Keep 3 from the year before so I hope I'm alright with Luck, Kamara and Barkely as a core. But WRs are a patchwork right now. Picked up and starting Robbie Anderson at one spot. Really need JuJu to go and be full-strength. Hoping we get some clarity before Sunday's game. I'm favored in my matchup so I may play it safe with the likes of Hamilton in PPR league. But if I need the upside I'd probably take a chance on Smith-Schuster. Just can't risk him putting up a zero by either being a decoy or reaggravating the injury mid-game.
Team Smokin'
Footballguy
Precautionary tweak or more is the question? Will JuJu be JuJu or not?
He's certainly fallen in the ranks this week. He could be good to go?
He's certainly fallen in the ranks this week. He could be good to go?
