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Emma put a claim in on the Dolphins - good pass rush Vs terrible CLE OL and rookie QB.
Jackpot.
Jackpot.
Run, do not walk to your add button.MN is actually available in one of mine
I will try for it. If I can't claim it I will get nygRun, do not walk to your add button.
Yeah I should have listened to you. I don't know what I was thinkingTold you the raider d blows ###. Man that game sucked.
At least I picked up and started Matt Ryan.
Historically, the problem has been that defenses aren't very consistent year to year. The most highly drafted Ds rarely finish that way.Bit of a thread hijack, but I'll ask anyway~
Maybe not 4th, but why not this? Old school drafting (multiple RBs early) has morphed to reflect the NFL's passing game. Perhaps waiting until the last round or two to draft a D/ST may be rethought, as well? No doubt a guppy move to many of you, but the floor of a stud defense seems more attractive to me right now than the "opportunity" some of those on my bench are waiting for.
Right on, thanks. I didn't have to reach, but thought the bolded had played out when I picked up the Jags D late. Now playing waiver wire roulette along with the rest of you. I wonder if mid-round D/ST's will become the next "zero-RB" FF strategy change, or remain something for Sharks to mock guppies about.Historically, the problem has been that defenses aren't very consistent year to year. The most highly drafted Ds rarely finish that way.
Has it gotten more predictable in recent years with Seattle, Carolina and Denver? Maybe, but I doubt enough to make that strategy worthwhile. But I will say that I get the logic of reaching a bit for a D just to avoid the psychological toll of stressing out over it each week. I'm starting to come around to that view with respect to TEs, if not yet Ds.
For Ds, my sense is that the sharkiest move may be to try to identify breakout Ds based on talent and coaching and then reach a round or two to get them. Last year, I targeted Minny and Denver, which would have worked out great if I hadn't stupidly drafted Miami. This year I went for Philly (jury's still out).
Same. Eagles d is very very good.I'm keeping Eagles. But might pick up another D for the next 2 weeks.
Don't play them vs pitt. They will kill us manI'm keeping Eagles. But might pick up another D for the next 2 weeks.
We're getting far afield, but I'll try to bring this back to streaming. The issue with any position is a) how reliable are the top picks, and b) how close can you come to top production by drafting late/streaming. If you can hit on your drafted D, you don't have to worry about streaming, but because it's usually so hard to predict a season-long defensive performance, while it is relatively easy to predict a weekly match-up, streaming has been the optimal strategy.wormburner said:Right on, thanks. I didn't have to reach, but thought the bolded had played out when I picked up the Jags D late. Now playing waiver wire roulette along with the rest of you. I wonder if mid-round D/ST's will become the next "zero-RB" FF strategy change, or remain something for Sharks to mock guppies about.
Right on, thanks. Agree with you here in that, even if only by a degree or two, we are adjusting our drafting strategies concerning D/ST.The issue then becomes the "winner's curse". Over the past couple years, I've found myself reaching a round earlier for defenses, but to get a Denver/Gronk/Gostkowski, you have to go *way* earlier, and I don't think it's worth it.
/tangent
According to my league's scoring rules, the most "giving" offenses based on FPTS are Chi, Mia, TB, LA, Ind, Sea, Cle and Ten (Cin was the next team on the list). Miami's next 3 opponents are CLE, @CIN, and TEN. So I am also targeting Miami as a streaming defense for the near future.I'm all over Miami this week. Raw rookie third string QB on what was already one of the worst teams in the league? Sign me up! Dolphins aren't a great D, but they're competent, and playing their home opener. Not sure if the refurbished stadium will be louder, but at a minimum it will be cooler, which should lead to more crowd energy.
I'm all about keeping the Eagles even with Pitt & the bye coming up. They have looked good, have a fairly weak schedule, and a promising playoff schedule (Wash/@Balt/NYG).Would you drop the eagles for the dolphins? Are the dolphins worth that? I do like the eagles but I can't keep two def, not enough bench room.
I think when you have a defense as solid as Minn, you just roll with them regardless of match-up. If you can afford to roster two, maybe use Miami this week. But if not, I'd take the one-week hit in order to have the Vikings ROS.I know many will say "run don't walk" to the WW if the Vikings are still available, but I have to choose between MIA and MIN. Long term, MIN seems like a no brainer and I can ignore this streaming defense thread. But, MIA has CLEV, @ CIN, and TEN the next 3 weeks. MIN has @CAR (no Stewart, but Cam), NYG (on MNF), HOU.
Assume that's based on the first two weeks? I wouldn't put too much stock in it. Most of those seem skewed by one bad game (eg, Tenn gave up two defensive TDs to the Vikes last week, Bucs got destroyed by Arizona on Sunday but looked very good in Week 1). I think it's pretty clear without looking at stats that Seattle, LA and Cleveland have bad offenses. I'd go more based on that than on FFPA rankings, at least for now. Later in the season, they'll be more relevant.According to my league's scoring rules, the most "giving" offenses based on FPTS are Chi, Mia, TB, LA, Ind, Sea, Cle and Ten (Cin was the next team on the list). Miami's next 3 opponents are CLE, @CIN, and TEN. So I am also targeting Miami as a streaming defense for the near future.
this is what i'm doing and am keeping the pats as wellWould you drop the eagles for the dolphins? Are the dolphins worth that? I do like the eagles but I can't keep two def, not enough bench room.
Yeah - I was looking at the Bucs but can't help thinking they're fool's gold. Rams aren't as bad as they've looked and will put it together more than they have - will it be this week?Dolphins are definitely who I am eyeing. Some people are mentioning the Bucs but I don't trust them. We've gotten killed by Case Keenum in the past and the defense doesn't look much better this year. They could end up doing well, but I would definitely rather have Miami and a few teams over them.
Doing the same. I don't see the Eagles being picked up with Pitt and then a bye. I'll look to regrab them afterthis is what i'm doing and am keeping the pats as well
He didn't complete a single pass that travelled 10 yards or more past the line of scrimmage. On PS film, it's apparent he can't even get the ball to WRs quickly on bubble screens or quick hitters, e.g., no zip on the ball, allowing defenders to close quickly. On downfield throws he loops it high or under throws - in one case, he turned a sure TD to an wide open Gabriel into a near interception because he was so inaccurate.Cody Kessler ranked 50th in the preseason in QBR (84.2).
He was 19/28 (good), 1 TD, no Int (good), for 92 yards (or 3.2 ypa, not good).
That was the lowest ypa in the entire preseason for anyone who threw 20 or more passes.
Could be a sneaky play, except that they travel across the country for a road game in a hostile environment. Jameis Winston coming off a brutal game - hard to say how he bounces back.How does everyone feel about the Rams this week? The had a solid showing last week and are playing the Buccs without Doug Martin.
Thanks for the response.Could be a sneaky play, except that they travel across the country for a road game in a hostile environment. Jameis Winston coming off a brutal game - hard to say how he bounces back.
I don't put a lot of stock into them missing Martin since Sims is one of the more capable backups.
I'd probably look for a better option, but would put the Rams at middle-of-the-road with upside. The talent is there - a lot will depend on whether they can get the offense going so the D isn't completely winded.