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Ravens QB Lamar Jackson (knee, illness) did not practice Thursday. 

This is the first we're hearing about Jackson's illness. CBS' Jason La Canfora reported the Ravens are "taking precaution" with Jackson and expect him to play Sunday against the Bengals. His Friday practice status could prove critical.

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1 hour ago, SkippaDaFlippa said:

Please don't be Covid

Does not sound like COVID per Schefter...

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Adam Schefter @AdamSchefter · 2m

Ravens’ QB Lamar Jackson missed practice today due to a stomach ache and Wednesday due to a knee injury, per league source. Neither is expected to be significant enough to sideline him for Sunday’s game against the Bengals, per source.

 

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Lamar Jackson (knee, illness) returned to practice Friday.

It was business as usual for Jackson after he sat out Wednesday and Thursday's sessions. It was likely more precautionary than anything, as the Ravens have made a conscious effort to manage Jackson's reps. He's the top fantasy quarterback play on the board for Week 5 against the Bengals.

Oct 9, 2020, 12:01 PM ET

 

 

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Gamescript could be problematic this week for Lamar.  You can see it turning into a Ravens RB clinic by the 3rd quarter.

You’ll get some downfield shots though even if that happens and Lamar has to start hitting Brown on those.  He said this week he anticipates they will clean that part of the passing game up as the season progresses so a long TD pass or two could make it a solid fantasy day like his 50 yard TD run did last week.

Also divisional matchups, definitely in the AFC north, can become something you didn’t see coming if cincy is still around at half time.  I don’t like the Ravens ineffective and predictable blitzing against Cincy’s rookie, he’ll pick it apart if they just keep throwing DB blitzes at him all day.  If that happens all bets are off and Lamar could go crazy all the way through the 4th quarter.

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On 10/9/2020 at 11:04 PM, jtp1982 said:

Gamescript could be problematic this week for Lamar.  You can see it turning into a Ravens RB clinic by the 3rd quarter.

They need to tighten things up in their passing game. If they get the chance to put up 40 they will IMO.

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Lamar Jackson completed 19-of-37 passes for 180 yards, two touchdowns and an interception in the Ravens' 27-3, Week 5 win over the Bengals. 

It was another easy win for the Ravens, but this was Jackson's second worst start of the season. His interception was thrown right to linebacker Logan Wilson, while Jackson threw another ball right to Wilson that he thankfully dropped. Jackson then threw another pick right to a linebacker in the second half, but it was mercifully dropped. Jackson averaged an awful 4.9 yards per attempt while rushing only twice for three yards. He missed Marquise Brown for what probably should have been a 31-yard score early in the first quarter. The fact that Jackson has been held under 200 yards passing in back-to-back games — and is averaging 169 yards since Week 1 — has largely been because of game flow, but it hasn't helped that Jackson has missed some easy throws and not always been able to locate his second read. The Eagles' rippable secondary is on tap for Week 6.

- Rotoworld

 

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17 hours ago, Dizzy said:

That's three (3)... THREE clunkers (in 5 outings) by last year's fantasy MVP.

I am officially on the "bust" narrative for 2020. 😩

Yup this isn't good.  I think I will be rotating him with Justin Herbert going forward depending on matchups.  Took him as first QB in the third round in my main redraft. Dumb.

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Ravens QB Lamar Jackson said the team's offense is "fine" despite his decreased rushing attempts this season. 

Baltimore's offense ranks 24th in the league through five weeks, one year after finishing as the NFL's No. 2 offense. Jackson, meanwhile, is the QB11 in fantasy football. He's averaging a career-low 8.2 rushing attempts per game after running the ball twice in Baltimore's Week 5 blowout win over the Bengals. ESPN's Jamison Hensley said Jackson's "lack of rushing last game can be attributed to a sore knee," though it's unclear how long the knee has bothered him, or how limiting the injury is. He's on pace for 80 designed runs this season -- a steep drop from last year's 116. "As the season goes on, we’re going to see if we need to [run more]. Coach is going to adjust," Jackson said. "Right now, we’re doing perfectly fine without me running so much." Fantasy managers should continue plugging and playing Jackson with hopes that his rushing production picks up. 

SOURCE: ESPN

Oct 15, 2020, 8:40 AM ET

 

 

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3 minutes ago, Faust said:

Michael F. Florio @MichaelFFlorio

Lamar Jackson 

2020 16-game pace
Pass Yds: 3,037
Pass TDs: 29
Rush Yds: 762
Rush TD: 3

2019 
Pass Yds: 3,127
Pass TDs: 36
Rush Yds: 1,206
Rush TD: 7

At the BOS, I was projecting 3400 yds passing, 30 TDs, 900 yds rushing, and 6 rushing TDs.  Funny how his current pace isn't that much lower than what I projected, but it feels like Jackson has been a bust so far.

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2 minutes ago, fightingillini said:

At the BOS, I was projecting 3400 yds passing, 30 TDs, 900 yds rushing, and 6 rushing TDs.  Funny how his current pace isn't that much lower than what I projected, but it feels like Jackson has been a bust so far.

He has been (a bust), if comparing him to himself from 2019. If last year never happened he's doing fine for a streaming FA option.

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36 minutes ago, hispeedthinmint said:

2020

 

7 minutes ago, Dizzy said:

The reality kind.

If he's not running all over the field and rushing for TDs... I really cannot use his 1977 MVP passing numbers at this time.

He's scoring more than Teddy B to date (in my league) and is coming off two of the worst games of his career.   You can panic sell if you want, but I don't see the logic.  

 

Let us know what you get, I guess.  

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4 minutes ago, hispeedthinmint said:

Teddy is QB15 & Lamar is QB11 in the league I own him in as of today. Nothing amazing enough to say he rules

No, but nothing that would make me "feel better" about starting the other guy who isn't even doing better and selling low on one of last year's most valuable dynasty assets.  

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49 minutes ago, cockroach said:

No, but nothing that would make me "feel better" about starting the other guy who isn't even doing better and selling low on one of last year's most valuable dynasty assets.  

Bridgewater has outscored Lamar three weeks in a row.  Lamar is not trending up, and the fact that his passing numbers are putrid (last in the league in passing yards among QB's who have started every game this season) as his rushing numbers come down has to be concerning. 

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2 hours ago, Ghost Rider said:

Bridgewater has outscored Lamar three weeks in a row.  Lamar is not trending up, and the fact that his passing numbers are putrid (last in the league in passing yards among QB's who have started every game this season) as his rushing numbers come down has to be concerning. 

It's a dynasty league.  Who bails on a guy after a few down games? (in what is guaranteed to be a "down season" after last year)

 

 

And even if you were DEAD SET on trading him, why would you consider it NOW when he's in the midst of a slump?  To get that studTeddy in there?  Sure he's outscored Lamar the last 3 weeks, 2 and 3 by about a point each and then a lot last week.  So basically last week.  It's a massive overreaction to even be having this conversation (even if the trend continues).  

 

 

I'd love to see the deals going down involving him.  

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2 minutes ago, cockroach said:

It's a dynasty league.  Who bails on a guy after a few down games? (in what is guaranteed to be a "down season" after last year)

 

 

And even if you were DEAD SET on trading him, why would you consider it NOW when he's in the midst of a slump?  To get that studTeddy in there?  Sure he's outscored Lamar the last 3 weeks, 2 and 3 by about a point each and then a lot last week.  So basically last week.  It's a massive overreaction to even be having this conversation (even if the trend continues).  

 

 

I'd love to see the deals going down involving him.  

To clarify, I personally would not trade Lamar right now if I owned him in a dynasty league.  I am just saying, the fact that he is not improving as a passer is a bit of a concern.  After last year's incredible season, I think many assumed his rushing would come down to earth a little bit and his passing numbers would rise, but the latter is not happening so far.  Of course, it is just five games so far, and there is a lot of season still to go. 

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4 hours ago, cockroach said:

 

He's scoring more than Teddy B to date (in my league) and is coming off two of the worst games of his career.   You can panic sell if you want, but I don't see the logic.  

 

Let us know what you get, I guess.  

Depends on your scoring system of course, but in our league Jackson is currently QB18 in avg pts/game.

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Lamar Jackson completed 16-of-27 attempts for 186 yards and a touchdown in the Ravens' 30-28 Week 6 win over the Eagles, adding nine rushes for 108 yards and a touchdown. 

Jackson's Week 6 rushing output should be a relief for fantasy managers who have watched the quarterback average a career low 8.2 rushing attempts per game this season. Jackson masterfully manipulated the Philadelphia defense with ball fakes and option plays, creating massive running lanes that led to a couple long runs, including a 37-yard touchdown scamper. Baltimore's passing attack continued to struggle this week as Jackson has little time to operate in the pocket. He won't be fantasy's QB11 for very long. Jackson should remain in all fantasy lineups in Week 7 against the Steelers. 

Oct 18, 2020, 4:40 PM ET

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Lamar Jackson went 13-for-26 for 208 yards, two touchdowns, and two interceptions in the Ravens' Week 8 loss to the Steelers, adding 16 rushes for 65 yards. 

Jackson had a jaw-dropping interception for a touchdown on the game's first drive and a poorly thrown lob for a pick a few drives later. Baltimore's passing game -- which ran through Willie Snead this week -- continued to look completely out of sync. Jackson had a long, circuitous run for a touchdown taken off the board thanks to a devastating holding call. His 16 rushing attempts tied a season high, and served as good news for fantasy managers trying to stay patient with Jackson. The Ravens ran the ball 47 times against Pittsburgh, only throwing when they absolutely had to in the second half. A continuation of that offensive approach could mean lean times for Mark Andrews and Marquise Brown. Things won't get any easier for Jackson next week against a solid Colts defense.

- Rotoworld

 

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Offensive Player Rankings, Week 9: What's behind Lamar Jackson's struggles?

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Lamar Jackson's struggles this season could be a sign of history repeating itself. Let me refresh your memory as I make this comparison ...

Almost a decade before taking over the Baltimore Ravens' offense in 2019, Greg Roman was developing Colin Kaepernick -- then a raw but extremely athletic passer -- with the San Francisco 49ers in his first stint as an NFL offensive coordinator. Halfway through his second season, Kaepernick replaced Alex Smith as the team's QB1 and dazzled with his extraordinary dual-threat ability, shredding defenses in a system that featured run-pass options and designed runs.

Sound familiar?

Roman has done similar work with Jackson in Baltimore over the last couple years by utilizing the QB's video-game-like rushing ability to make him one of the most dangerous weapons in the game despite his limitations as a passer. Both Kaepernick and Jackson took the league by storm under Roman, with Kaepernick helping lead the 49ers to an NFC title in his second season and Jackson winning the MVP award in Year 2.

However, after nearly winning a championship, the 49ers started to alter their offense and turned Kaepernick into more of a dropback passer as a means of protecting him from big hits. With a guy as dynamic as Kap, I understand why a franchise would want to shield him from wear and tear, but by limiting him from fully utilizing his greatest asset, a decline in production seemed likely to follow. Sure enough, Kaepernick's passer rating and average yards per pass attempt decreased in each of the two seasons that followed his peak 2012 campaign. Roman left San Francisco after the 2014 season and Kaepernick lost the starting job a couple years later.

A look at Jackson's production in 2020 has me wondering if the Ravens are falling into the same trap. It sure feels that way. In the Ravens' Divisional Round loss last season, Tennessee built a lead and took Baltimore out of its game, forcing Jackson to throw a career-high 59 times. This season, with the Ravens focused on trying to avoid a repeat of the same fate, Jackson's completion percentage is down nearly three points from where it was at this time last year and he's not being utilized as a runner at the same rate:

Through seven games in 2019: 83 att., 576 yds, 3 TDs, 6.9 rush ypc, 82.3 rush ypg

Through seven games in 2020: 66 att., 411 yds, 2 TDs, 6.2 rush ypc, 58.7 rush ypg

Now, Baltimore's offensive line has taken its lumps, losing eight-time Pro Bowl guard Marshal Yanda to retirement in the offseason and All-Pro left tackle Ronnie Stanley to a season-ending ankle injury on Sunday. But Roman must dial up creative play-calling to help Jackson be more effective as a runner. The reigning MVP strikes fear into defenders as a ball-carrier in space but we haven't seen the wide array of explosive plays we did a season ago. Jackson has averaged fewer than 5.0 yards per carry in three of the Ravens' seven games this season after having three such games in all of 2019.

In addition, Jackson's turnovers have hampered the Ravens this season, especially against the Steelers on Sunday. After turning the ball over just eight times in his MVP season, Jackson already has seven giveaways in 2020. He looked far from his usual form on Sunday, throwing a pair of picks and fumbling the ball three times (losing two). His most glaring error was the throw directly to Pittsburgh linebacker Robert Spillane that turned into a Steelers' pick-six on the Ravens' opening drive. With the Steelers in a base defense, Jackson went through his progressions before coming back to his first option and threw the ball late. That kind of poor decision-making in the pocket can't happen.

I certainly understand why Roman would be making a greater effort to protect Jackson from hits and help him improve as a passer, but I believe the way to do the latter is to keep Jackson comfortable with designed runs, RPOs, screens, bootlegs, etc. The Ravens need their QB1 to get back to his MVP form if they want to hang with the top dogs in the AFC. It's a fine line Roman walks as the offensive coordinator, but right now, he's falling on the wrong side of it.

 

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2 hours ago, Synthesizer said:

There have been plenty of players recently who didn't have any trouble with the Madden curse.  Mahomes Super Bowl MVP, Brady league MVP,  Calvin Johnson most receiving yards ever in a season.

Stop messing this board up with facts.

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2 hours ago, Synthesizer said:

There have been plenty of players recently who didn't have any trouble with the Madden curse.  Mahomes Super Bowl MVP, Brady league MVP,  Calvin Johnson most receiving yards ever in a season.

Also: 6-2, 12 TD, 4 INT and a 95.1 passer rating to go with almost 500 yards rushing halfway through the season ain't exactly "cursed". And the two losses are to teams which are a combined 16-1. 

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9 minutes ago, CalBear said:

Also: 6-2, 12 TD, 4 INT and a 95.1 passer rating to go with almost 500 yards rushing halfway through the season ain't exactly "cursed". And the two losses are to teams which are a combined 16-1. 

Yeah more like historical season regression to just a great season

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https://twitter.com/jonas_shaffer/status/1326606382532096005
 

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Lamar Jackson tells the @RichEisenShow that defenses sometimes “are calling out our plays, stuff like that. They know what we’re doing.” The optics on this: not great.

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Ravens QB Lamar Jackson said opposing defenses are "calling out our plays."

Seems bad. Several 2020 opponents — including the Colts last week — have looked like they knew many of Baltimore's offensive plays before the snap. It's put Jackson in an unenviable position, having to dodge oncoming rushers to make something out of nothing time and again. The Ravens' passing attack has stalled out throughout the season's first nine weeks, with Jackson posting an average net yards per attempt of 6.2, nearly two yards less than his 2019 ANY/A. Baltimore offensive coordinator Greg Roman saw his offense become similarly predictable as the 49ers' offensive coordinator in 2013, one year after wrecking defenses with Colin Kaepernick and the team's devastating running attack. Jackson remains an every-week fantasy starter but the gaudy stat lines of 2019 have been absent through the season's first two months.

 

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Rotoworld's Warren Sharp: Sunday Night Football: Deep Dive
 

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The Baltimore Ravens’ offense looks like a shell of their former offense, but that is because of a number of factors.

First, and most interesting to hypothesize about, is Lamar coming out this week in the media and admitting that defenses know what is coming this year, and going as far as to admit that the defense is calling out their plays ahead of the snap.

Clearly that’s a major problem.  

With the rules changes that are so offensive friendly, the ONLY time the offense shouldn’t have an advantage on a given play is if they are too predictable.

You cannot allow yourself as an offense to be predictable.

If the Ravens are being too predictable based on personnel grouping, formation, down or distance, it’s something that needs changed, and changed ASAP.

Another issue is their step back in allowing Lamar to pass on first down.  After allowing him to pass more in 2019 than 2018, I assumed a natural progression would occur in 2020.

His performance on these first down passes has improved.  But the team isn’t taking advantage of it enough.

In the first half of games, Lamar is averaging 9.2 YPA, 60% success and +0.30 EPA/att on first down passes

No team is averaging more EPA/att on first down passes in the first half than Lamar.

But he only has 47 attempts.

Baltimore is the most run-heavy team on first downs in the NFL.

These runs average just 3.9 YPC, 45% success and -0.03 EPA/att

Just 33% of Lamar’s attempts come on first downs

That ranks 31st of 32 teams in the NFL

Last week against the Colts, Baltimore ran 17 times on 1st down and averaged 2.5 YPC.  They passed 10 times and averaged 8.1 YPA and 70% success.

They are passing LESS on first down than they did in 2019 even though Lamar is MUCH better on these passes:

In 2019, they averaged just 6.9 YPA, 52% success and +0.06 EPA on these first down passes

He’s doing much better this year.

And their first down runs are doing much worse:

First down run success this year:

2020:  3.6 YPC, 47% success
2019:  6.0 YPC, 60% success

But I do still have confidence in the Ravens and their offense.  Look at their recent schedule.

They’ve played 2 straight games against top-3 defenses:  Colts and Steelers.

They’ve played 5 of their last 6 games against top-13 defenses.

The rest of the season, they will face the NFL’s easiest schedule of defenses.

They play just one game against a top-17 defense.

They play 3 games against bottom-5 defenses.

And the first is this week, against the Patriots.

The Patriots Defense ranks 31st in the NFL.  They rank 30th against the pass and 31st against the run.

That run ranking is even worse because they have played the 9th easiest schedule of opposing run offenses.

In 6 of 8 games this season, the Patriots have played run offense that rank 19th or worse.

Only twice did they play run offenses in the top-10, and they lost badly to the 49ers in Week 7 and lost to the Seahawks in Week 2.

There is no doubt the Ravens, who still have the NFL’s #1 ranked run offense, even though it’s not as strong as it was in 2019, should see success here.

After playing top-10 run defenses for three straight weeks, facing the NFL’s second worst will be a welcomed sight.

In the only meeting against Lamar Jackson, the Patriots lost 37-20, as the Ravens marched out to a commanding 17-0 lead.

 

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