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QB Lamar Jackson, BAL (6 Viewers)
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Bracie Smathers
Footballguy
Matt Waldman makes a really-interesting case for Lamar Jackson as the best QB from this draft in this podcast.
https://twitter.com/FtblSickness/status/976557653034901504
Ryan Burns @FtblSickness
The @TheBrownsNote QB series. More to come. Baker Mayfield with @_PeteSmith_: https://brownsnote.podbean.com/e/the-browns-note-podcast-episode-49-pete-smith-the-case-for-baker-mayfieldtrench-report/ … Sam Darnold with @BrendanLeister: https://brownsnote.podbean.com/e/the-browns-note-podcast-episode-50-joe-thomas-retirementthe-case-for-sam-darnold/
… Lamar Jackson with @MattWaldman:
1:34 PM - 21 Mar 2018
https://twitter.com/FtblSickness/status/976557653034901504
Ryan Burns @FtblSickness
The @TheBrownsNote QB series. More to come. Baker Mayfield with @_PeteSmith_: https://brownsnote.podbean.com/e/the-browns-note-podcast-episode-49-pete-smith-the-case-for-baker-mayfieldtrench-report/ … Sam Darnold with @BrendanLeister: https://brownsnote.podbean.com/e/the-browns-note-podcast-episode-50-joe-thomas-retirementthe-case-for-sam-darnold/
… Lamar Jackson with @MattWaldman:
1:34 PM - 21 Mar 2018
GroveDiesel
Footballguy
I certainly understand doing due diligence, but using one of their private workout spots on Jackson when they have Watson is a bit odd, no?
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Boston
Footballguy
O'Brien is a BB guy and the belief is BB uses many of these pre-draft visits not so much for now but later in the players career when the player may become available...
Well when you've got the opportunity to upgrade a position, you have to consider it and do your due diligence.
Pwingles
Footballguy
Tau837
Footballguy
It wasn't just Chubb's pro day, it was the N.C. State pro day. There were several players there who will be drafted, not just Chubb.
Bracie Smathers
Footballguy
Pete Smith @_PeteSmith_ 2h2 hours ago
Give Lamar Jackson 2 years on a team that wants him to be successful and is committed to doing it. Playable in a year, better in year 3, Giannis Antetekounmpo in year 4?
https://twitter.com/SigmundBloom/status/979416909010604033
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Sigmund Bloom Retweeted Mark Kaboly
I'm excited about Tomlin's excitement
Sigmund Bloom added,
Mark KabolyVerified account @MarkKaboly
Mike Tomlin was quite excited talking about checking out Lamar Jackson at today’s Louisville Pro Day.
10:56 AM - 29 Mar 2018
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Steve PalazzoloVerified account @PFF_Steve Mar 20
Only 27 percent of Lamar Jackson's career rushing yards came on scrambles. 73 percent came through the designed running game. He was not just dropping back and running around Career: Passing yds 9,018 Scramble yds 1,286 Designed rush yds 3,520
Give Lamar Jackson 2 years on a team that wants him to be successful and is committed to doing it. Playable in a year, better in year 3, Giannis Antetekounmpo in year 4?
https://twitter.com/SigmundBloom/status/979416909010604033
Sigmund Bloom @SigmundBloomb FollowFollow @SigmundBloom
Sigmund Bloom Retweeted Mark Kaboly
I'm excited about Tomlin's excitement
Sigmund Bloom added,
Mark KabolyVerified account @MarkKaboly
Mike Tomlin was quite excited talking about checking out Lamar Jackson at today’s Louisville Pro Day.
10:56 AM - 29 Mar 2018
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Steve PalazzoloVerified account @PFF_Steve Mar 20
Only 27 percent of Lamar Jackson's career rushing yards came on scrambles. 73 percent came through the designed running game. He was not just dropping back and running around Career: Passing yds 9,018 Scramble yds 1,286 Designed rush yds 3,520
Mister CIA
Footballguy
I'm in the intrigued camp. Knocking Jackson for not running a 40 is ridiculous. I do detect, some scouts and media people are left feeling jilted at the alter of "drafturbation." Outside of anything that could be gleaned from an interview, the resume is a finished document; and given the gotcha-chucklehead treatment Guice received in his interviews, don't even bother.
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Skeletore Eh
Footballguy
Exactly the type of guy I liked spending mid to late second round rookie picks on
Pwingles
Footballguy
I feel like him not running at the combine or pro day was an effort to kill the narrative that he is a super athlete and not necessarily an NFL QB.
Football Jones
Footballguy
My initial initial thought why Jackson didn't run the 40 is it might lesson the talk about being switched to WR.
If he ran a 4.35, that's just more hypothetical fuel for those who might look at him as a WR prospect.
Or maybe his practice 40s weren't up to his perceived times & he decided to let perception rule the day.
Who knows.
If he ran a 4.35, that's just more hypothetical fuel for those who might look at him as a WR prospect.
Or maybe his practice 40s weren't up to his perceived times & he decided to let perception rule the day.
Who knows.
Brunell4MVP
Footballguy
I think he goes at # 13 or #14. Not to those teams though. I suspect a trade to get ahead of ARI. GB or WAS can move down and still get a player that fills their needs.
I could easily see LA Chargers moving up from #17 to #13. They could use some excitement and Rivers only has 2 more years on contract (and 2019 is only a $7m dead cap hit). Plenty of time to fix perceived technique problems with Jackson and great insurance for a Rivers injury. The Skins can still get Payne or Guice at #17. Both fill major needs for them.
I could easily see LA Chargers moving up from #17 to #13. They could use some excitement and Rivers only has 2 more years on contract (and 2019 is only a $7m dead cap hit). Plenty of time to fix perceived technique problems with Jackson and great insurance for a Rivers injury. The Skins can still get Payne or Guice at #17. Both fill major needs for them.
Bronco Billy
Footballguy
Perceived technique problems? 
Tau837
Footballguy
I hope you are wrong. Rivers has said he wants to play more than just two more years, and he played really well last year, so there is no reason to want to replace him.Brunell4MVP said:
Drafting Jackson would waste at least a couple of his cheap contract years on the bench behind Rivers. And it would prevent the Chargers from adding a needed starter with their first round pick, whether DT, FS, or possibly RT.
And trading up to draft him would be even worse, since they would have to give up other valuable draft capital.
Besides, they just signed Geno Smith!
Biabreakable
Footballguy
I came across this interesting graphic that shows Lamar Jackson had the fewest percentage of his passes thrown behind the LOS which are usually high percentage throws which would pad a QBs overall completion percentage.
Josh Allen has the second lowest percentage of his passes behind the LOS, but still more than Jackson.
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Josh Allen has the second lowest percentage of his passes behind the LOS, but still more than Jackson.
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GroveDiesel
Footballguy
Increasingly, I find myself wishing the Bills sit tight and grab Jackson at 12. I don't see it happening, but I would love it.
Heard this stat the other day and it kind if blew my mind: Jackson had more rushing yards, more rushing TDs and a higher ypc than Sasquan Barkley in the same number of games. Barkely is talked about as one of the top RB prospects in a long time and Jackson outproduced him as a QB.
Add in that he's a pretty good passer with the ability to read defenses and throw with timing and he has some tools to be a true franchise player.
Heard this stat the other day and it kind if blew my mind: Jackson had more rushing yards, more rushing TDs and a higher ypc than Sasquan Barkley in the same number of games. Barkely is talked about as one of the top RB prospects in a long time and Jackson outproduced him as a QB.
Add in that he's a pretty good passer with the ability to read defenses and throw with timing and he has some tools to be a true franchise player.
Ilov80s
Footballguy
I think Jackson should go before the Bills get to pick, but if he does make it to them, I worry that they don't want to adjust their offense to a mobile QB. I am not even sure Jackson needs an offensive adjustment to be successful, but I see him typecast that way.
Casting Couch
Footballguy
Lamar Jackson - QB - Player
ESPN's Jordan Raanan expects Louisville QB Lamar Jackson to be drafted in the top-20 picks.
This falls in line with pre-draft reports on Jackson. There's some concern over Jackson's NFL readiness, but multiple teams "really like" him. At least five quarterbacks are expected to be drafted on Day 1. Jackson going top-20 could allow Oklahoma State's Mason Rudolph to sneak into the late first round.
Source: Jordan Raanan on Twitter
Apr 20 - 5:56 PM
ESPN's Jordan Raanan expects Louisville QB Lamar Jackson to be drafted in the top-20 picks.
This falls in line with pre-draft reports on Jackson. There's some concern over Jackson's NFL readiness, but multiple teams "really like" him. At least five quarterbacks are expected to be drafted on Day 1. Jackson going top-20 could allow Oklahoma State's Mason Rudolph to sneak into the late first round.
Source: Jordan Raanan on Twitter
Apr 20 - 5:56 PM
Bronco Billy
Footballguy
Boston said:
Have you read this thread? Do you think people are for or against Jackson because of him as a person as opposed to a player?
I’ve put my position out there. He’s wildly inaccurate, even moreso than Allen, to the point where some of his misses are comical. He can’t read Ds and he makes some really bad decisions. His legs are what give him value. IMO he’s roughly comparable to Kaepernick’s game. One of the ACC coaches who has been in the business for a while has said he knew Watson would succeed in the NFL because of his game, and has stated that Jackson will fail because of what he’s incapable of as a QB. He laid out his position very well.
I find it particularly odd that all the other high level QBs in this draft are getting raked over and picked apart as to why they will fail while Jackson keeps getting pumped up and put forth as the best QB in this draft as the pre-draft hype had built despite what I see as some very large and likely unfixable holes in his game. Why is that I wonder (said sarcastically)?
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