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Native American, I don't think she ever claimed to be Indian.
I’ve spent a lot of time listening to Warren. I don’t always agree with her, but she is honest: she is honest about health care, and about the environment, and about the economy, and about workers and the gap in income, and about rising costs. She is honest about trade and about our international commitments.
Please don't partially quote me...
No that makes you 1/512 African, it means you have an ancestry link to Africa. In other words, you are part African. And not that far removed actually.
Did you see the Kavanaugh thread? How many pages were devoted to a yearbook inscription from a 17 year old? She deserves scrutiny if she lied. But it appears to be a mistake.
Yes, and if I claimed to be African American, I would be wrong. That's the point: the DNA result isn't relevant.
I could, but posting examples of trolling got me called a child just last night. So I'm going to pass on this one. Not worth it.
Yeah, these things are complicated. My kids are 1/4 black. They look white and mostly associate with white and Asian people. They have both been raised Jewish. I don't know what they're gonna put on their college applications. I suspect their mother will want them to signal that they are minorities and they will resist.
Very good post. Personally I think one of the biggest issues with race is that everyone talks about it so much. I mean, people talk about equality and everyone being equal in one thread, and then in the next thread they talk about the “black vote” or the “Latino vote”.
Could you described yourself as having African ancestry? That seems reasonable... If you were told 1/32 but turning out to be 1/64 to 1/1024 doesn't seem all that much a stretch.
It's worth it. "Galling" racism is a serious accusation. Exactly what are you talking about? Please cut and paste the quotes here.
Interesting in that is an African-American married a full Caucasian and they had a child who married a full Caucasian and they had a child, this child would have only 18% African bloodline even though its grandparent was full African-American. Bloodline dilutes fast.
Of course Trump sees this as a way to distract from real issues, most of which make him look bad. So, just as with Colin Kaepernick, he seized on this, and his supporters and conservatives follow his lead. Facts are irrelevant compared to the nickname.
First, he wasn’t accused of rape. Second, that’s not the issue. The issue is lying should be taken seriously. An alleged lie (what he said in his yearbook) was talked about on this board endlessly. Many made the claim that this lie disqualified him.
On the bright side, at least she released the results less than a month before the midterms!
You keep saying she shouldn't have taken the DNA test and I will keep disagreeing. Facts matter and backing up claims is important. Even if Trump doesn't care about facts and scientifically backing up those claims it is still important.
You’re the second person to point out that I should have written “attempted rape” instead of rape. Mea culpa I suppose, but the distinction seems rather insignificant.
Voters in ND or WV or whatever other state that has a closely contested election do not care about Elizabeth Warren and her DNA test. Or I should say, the few that are foaming at the mouth were already decided and were not going to vote for denmocrats anyway
In MOST states this stunt would cost her the Senate race. She’s lucky she’s in Massachusetts.
In the recent days as this was bumped...no.
I disagree, but that is ok. I don't think proving your claims do that, especially in today's environment.
It’s hilarious the spin needed here to complain and bash someone who proved her claim as it relates to those family stories.
Obviously not all!
Just for comparison's sake, do you look less black than she looked Native American before she started dying her hair?
Define done. Do you mean...
I understand your point and I think those nations have the right to determine who is a part of their citizenry. I don't deny them that ability to self identify.
That's been my concern. The doubling down as I said earlier just didn't make sense.
Here is their statement. Saying that she is "undermining tribal interests" is quite the rebuke:
She isn't going to be president because of this either way. I respect her actually trying to fight back, but it isn't going to work against Trump's GOP
She's using to claim that she was correct in self-identifying as a native american minority in the 1980s/1990s, which implies a bit more than (ETA: ancestral) descent. Like I said yesterday, I'd respect her more if she said that was wrong, and the family stories led her to believe there was more than there actually is.
People (myself included) explained to you over and over and over that the pages of the thread to which you refer were devoted to figuring out whether Kavanaugh lied to Congress when he was 53, not "a yearbook inscription from a 17 year old."
This is similar to my post above. If Warren was trying to say she had a right to Cherokee citizenship that is one thing, but saying she is part Cherokee or has a Cherokee ancestor is another.
Thanks.
Are you paraphrasing her claim in a way to fit your view? Because she didn't say "she was correct in self-identifying as a Native American minority."
