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Im with you on Howard and Ajayi but im on the Hunt train. I wouldn't say hes a subpar draft prospect. He was a 3 star high school recruit. Went to a smaller school and a respected coach like Andy Reid traded up in the 3rd to grab him giving up their own 3rd, a 4th and a 7th in the process. He wasn't a top 10 pick like Fournette, McCaffrey and Gurley but I doubt he and Dalvin Cook were far apart as prospects by NFL scouts.
The only thing about Gurley's rookie year is it was mainly a few big runs a game. Now the big plays have dried up. I had much the same thoughts as you, not a lot of suddenness to him and I was never a big fan. Always looked like a big guy who could run and once he got in the open field he's fast and a load. But you have to get in the open field for that to matter. Feels like he needs a good o-line to get him there or he's going to struggle. Also starting to wonder about his attitude.
Well, both guys had some character stuff. Hunt was actually suspended for a couple games at Toledo for the always mysterious "violation of team rules". Cook had some attitude questions as well IIRC. Both guys may have been dinged slightly for that. Still, Cook was the 41st pick after three years in college. Hunt was the 86th pick after four years in college. That's a fairly big gap. I like Cook more from an eyeball test standpoint. Not a big guy or a tackle breaker, but he just glides as a runner.fruity pebbles said:
It's possible Trubisky is the best NFL QB of the bunch. Certainly most NFL evaluators thought so. I view him as a project whose preseason success was largely based on checkdowns. I'm a moderate believer in the Parcells strategy of looking for guys who started and won in college, which is part of the reason I think it will take Trubisky a while to develop, if it happens. I loved watching Marquise Williams in college so I don't hold the 1 year starter against him that much, but I do hold against him the mediocrity of that one year.
That would not be enough for me. I get that it makes sense to sell since you are in rebuild mode, and Wentz + + seems like a fine way to go. But Rodgers provides a real positional advantage for a contender, and I think it makes sense to hold out for more. Adding Coleman or Desean is the right direction but the wrong particular players for me. Get another real building block in the deal, and be patient if it isn't offered. Rodgers value will rise as the playoffs approach and teams look for the edge.
Kizer certainly needs to get the ball out quicker. He's arrogant, but I kind of like that about him.thriftyrocker said:
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If a guy has been slumping for more than half of his career, at what point do we stop calling it a slump and just call it who he is?EBF said:
Short-term, I like McCoy. I'd pay a late first + Matthews or Zay. Lynch and Murray could be a cheaper options. For potential foundation pieces, Henry, Kamara, and Mixon are a few you might be able to get at market value. I'd pay a 2nd or Matthews or Zay for Cohen. Mark Ingram and Doug Martin will see their value trend up at least once more. Ameer Abdullah is a buy for me. If you want to go really cheap, I like James White to have a few big games this season.
Cosell compared him to Alex Smith and Bloom compared him to Tyrod Taylor. Alex Smith only ran in the playoffs. Obviously that is a key component if you are only concerned with fantasy. As I said I'm optimistic about how he handles pocket breakdowns from a fantasy perspective. Your comment reminds me of Peyton Manning throwing ducks. If he can get the ball out quick and win when it counts, it doesn't matter.
I guess it depends on what you mean by arm talent; maybe I'm using the wrong term. It's not just that he doesn't have a big arm--not a huge deal--but his intermediate placement has been bad as well. He doesn't see the entire field and is prone to poor decisions - that doesn't sound like Alex Smith or Peyton Manning to me.
I hadn't noticed, but you certainly watch him more than I do. I had considered him a buy. Am I wrong to?
I am hoping Trubisky, Watson or Kizer show enough I can even swap them for Wentz. Granted I am fine with being wrong due to homerism. I would rank him with Winston and Mariota, not with Trubisky and Watson.
I think Watson's ability to read defenses before the snap is very good, and that's something Alex Smith is also good at. He may not go through all his reads but tell me a college QB that does.
Watson's intermediate accuracy has been awful, from what I've seen; certainly not on par with Kizer.
In the league with Fornette, I actually traded McCoy away since I am rebuilding. I got Adams, 2018 1st & Gronk for him.
Well, that sounds a lot worse than it is since Gurley's "career" is only two seasons old. One season was good. One was awful. My ranking at RB7 assumes that his real quality is somewhere in the middle, but as I said it's volatile and could drop quickly if he keeps looking bad. My take on him as a college prospect was that he was a lot more straight-line than advertised. Basically a big/fast guy who didn't have a great ability to create on his own without big lanes. I've never been a full believer and don't own him anywhere.
Well it was really 3/4 of a season that was good, one season that was awful, and now he's off to a bad start again in season 3.EBF said:
I share a similar view on Gurley that I need to see him play like he did as a rookie again and not like last year to believe he can be a top 12 RB for fantasy.
Seems like a good deal for you considering the clock is ticking on McCoy's remaining useful seasons.
I do think there is a changing of the guard occurring at the RB position right now where the few good veteran RB are fading out now or soon will be. So the top 10 RBs are going to be composed of mostly new players as soon as next season, if not already. So I agree with a lot has changed and will change.
Packers made a big mistake not bringing in a early down rb. Think they have to at least give Williams some more carries. Montgomery looks like he's getting exposed right now as a gadget/CoP back.
More like: What do we need to see to move Ty Montgomery into the dynasty RB2 conversation?
They drafted three backs and there's still a chance that one or more of them will get a chance before it's all said and done. I've got Devante Mays in every dynasty league and I think he'd be an interesting guy to trot out there and test with 15-20 carries. Not saying I think he's anything special, but he's a big guy with some quicks/speed/catching ability who could prove serviceable.
Do you think it holds enough to keep the RB designation? The RB field is still pretty thin. Shady is a low 1/high 2 right now. I see Ty as offering me similar production this year, after which he'll be 25 to Shady's 30. I don't know what he'll be at that point, but he doesn't need 3+ years of current production to repay an investment today.
I'm not ready to put him there yet but he's in a great situation and seems legit.
In my non-ppr league, Ingram is averaging 7.7 ppg and is RB29.
12 team PPR dyno - offered Julio for hunt. Denied
that's what I was kinda thinking most people would say. I was just curious if my thinking was off there. I suppose both coming off huge games doesn't help me.
