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I’m trying to move Burrow and or Tua before cut down in FFPC (1 QB). Everyone is fairly stingy this time of year before cut downs. Hoping to get a 3rd for Tua or a 2nd for Burrow. Maybe Burrow for piece like AJ Dillon or RoJo? Thoughts

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That is interesting. As a Gordon owner here and there, I think I'd have jumped on that offer in any league I have him, without even looking at my own roster or that of the owner sending me the pick.

At first glance I agree, but then when I think about it I almost think the opposite.  If anything it's ridiculous that RBs are so ridiculously overvalued in 1qb leagues.  I love RBs having lots of val

7 minutes ago, BigAl21 said:

I’m trying to move Burrow and or Tua before cut down in FFPC (1 QB). Everyone is fairly stingy this time of year before cut downs. Hoping to get a 3rd for Tua or a 2nd for Burrow. Maybe Burrow for piece like AJ Dillon or RoJo? Thoughts

No way in any of my leagues am I giving up a potential starting back for Burrow until I find out exactly how their situations are sussing out. But FFPC, that's a different story than my 40-man roster league. I'm just saying on the surface, no way.

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2 hours ago, BigAl21 said:

I’m trying to move Burrow and or Tua before cut down in FFPC (1 QB). Everyone is fairly stingy this time of year before cut downs. Hoping to get a 3rd for Tua or a 2nd for Burrow. Maybe Burrow for piece like AJ Dillon or RoJo? Thoughts

I think you will have a hard time getting what you are asking but got a better shot on the picks.

Tua's zero value to me in this format but I am admittedly lower on him then most. But he was not even drafted that high last year in the rookie drafts when he was not taking up one of your 14 spots. May be to early to call him a bust, not to early to be lower on him for fantasy. If you got a mid round pick I'd think you did well.

Burrow's someone of value, but hard to see someone giving up one of those RB's. Maybe you find someone to give you a second, only takes one buyer and sometimes someone new to this format will overvalue QB's.

All leagues are different but last year after Dak had a top 5 fantasy season I shopped him to no avail, finally posted on the league message board I'd take any second. Best offer I got was a late third and I think Dak's value was higher then Burrows now. This same league I paid 2.10 for Mahome's after his rookie year, only time I ever paid for a QB before cuts, perhaps you find that owner out there who feels like Burrow the way I felt about Mahomes. I don't think asking for a second for Burrow is insulting, I just think you will have a hard time getting it.

Market is also really small in my FFPC leagues for QB's and by that I mean if you scan rosters you don't see a lot of teams in need of a QB. I've been looking at moving Herbert in some leagues and since I try and offer trades that make sense to the other team I scanned rosters and hard to find many teams with need.

 

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2 hours ago, BigAl21 said:

I’m trying to move Burrow and or Tua before cut down in FFPC (1 QB). Everyone is fairly stingy this time of year before cut downs. Hoping to get a 3rd for Tua or a 2nd for Burrow. Maybe Burrow for piece like AJ Dillon or RoJo? Thoughts

In those small roster leagues I don't see anybody giving up anything of value for those guys at this point.  They really don't have any value

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3 hours ago, Gally said:

In those small roster leagues I don't see anybody giving up anything of value for those guys at this point.  They really don't have any value

I'm not sure you could get a third for Tua in a 25-30 man roster start 1QB leagues.

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Fwiw I was just offer burrow and tee Higgins for my josh Allen 1,3,4, and 5 and scoffed at it when I seen it. Not sure if that helps you put a value on burrow or not but it’s all I have to offer. 
 

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1 minute ago, bmsarvis said:

Fwiw I was just offer burrow and tee Higgins for my josh Allen 1,3,4, and 5 and scoffed at it when I seen it. Not sure if that helps you put a value on burrow or not but it’s all I have to offer. 
 

I am not sure if everything listed would be enough to give up Allen let alone including a first, 3rd, 4th and 5th with Allen.  

 

Burrow has a major knee injury and Allen was a top 2-3 QB this year in most leagues.  This belongs in the worst trade offer thread.  

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2 minutes ago, Gally said:

I am not sure if everything listed would be enough to give up Allen let alone including a first, 3rd, 4th and 5th with Allen.  

 

Burrow has a major knee injury and Allen was a top 2-3 QB this year in most leagues.  This belongs in the worst trade offer thread.  

I agree. 100%. He was the number one an in my league. By a decent margin. Just figured I’d throw it out there since everyone thought burrow was the second coming and figured those feeling my still be present with big al. I know I’m burrow owner in a league and while I have lofty expectations I’d be happy as a hog rolling in crap to package him to get Herbert. 

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Am I missing something? I'm in 5 FFPC leagues, in all of them there's at least 8 teams in each league that are holding multiple QB's. In 2 of them I'm looking to upgrade my QB, in 1 of them I'm trying to get a QB to fill out my (it's the only piece I'm really missing). I've offered a future 1st plus multiple top50 players and nobody is giving them up.

I was looking at Watson, Dak, Kyler, Herbert, Burrow, made what I feel was a great offer for Mahomes. Nobody wants to deal any of them when they also hold another top15 QB. 

Am I the only person in high priced QB FFPC leagues? 

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2 minutes ago, Zyphros said:

Am I missing something? I'm in 5 FFPC leagues, in all of them there's at least 8 teams in each league that are holding multiple QB's. In 2 of them I'm looking to upgrade my QB, in 1 of them I'm trying to get a QB to fill out my (it's the only piece I'm really missing). I've offered a future 1st plus multiple top50 players and nobody is giving them up.

I was looking at Watson, Dak, Kyler, Herbert, Burrow, made what I feel was a great offer for Mahomes. Nobody wants to deal any of them when they also hold another top15 QB. 

Am I the only person in high priced QB FFPC leagues? 

This is truly bizarre in non-SF FFPC. So no I'm not seeing this anywhere.

I've got Herbert(2) and Dak as my backup and I've never remotely sniffed a one for them, present of future. I mentioned earlier I could not get a second for Dak last year.

What did you offer for Mahomes?

 

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7 minutes ago, Zyphros said:

Am I missing something? I'm in 5 FFPC leagues, in all of them there's at least 8 teams in each league that are holding multiple QB's. In 2 of them I'm looking to upgrade my QB, in 1 of them I'm trying to get a QB to fill out my (it's the only piece I'm really missing). I've offered a future 1st plus multiple top50 players and nobody is giving them up.

I was looking at Watson, Dak, Kyler, Herbert, Burrow, made what I feel was a great offer for Mahomes. Nobody wants to deal any of them when they also hold another top15 QB. 

Am I the only person in high priced QB FFPC leagues? 

I can't speak for FFPC, but there was discussion last month about the difficulty in trading within this QB market. I don't think acquiring a good one right now is anywhere near as easy as some believe. 

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58 minutes ago, Zyphros said:

Am I missing something? I'm in 5 FFPC leagues, in all of them there's at least 8 teams in each league that are holding multiple QB's. In 2 of them I'm looking to upgrade my QB, in 1 of them I'm trying to get a QB to fill out my (it's the only piece I'm really missing). I've offered a future 1st plus multiple top50 players and nobody is giving them up.

I was looking at Watson, Dak, Kyler, Herbert, Burrow, made what I feel was a great offer for Mahomes. Nobody wants to deal any of them when they also hold another top15 QB. 

Am I the only person in high priced QB FFPC leagues? 

I almost never hold a second QB past the offseason cuts. Unless I think I can get *something* in a trade for one of them later. One team has Dak and Wilson and I will likely take a ham sandwich for either so I can make room.

In my experience I have seen what you're talking about and feel too many FFPC owners hold too many QBs, and I try to exploit that if I can. 

The best value I have gotten from QB deals in FFPC is when they are involved in bigger deals. 

As for Mahomes, I bought him in one FFPC league this week for 1.05 plus Burrows. That team could afford it and getting uber elite at QB seemed like the right move. In a really bad orphan I took over I moved Mahomes for Claypool, Moss and an early current 3rd.  FWIW.

If you offered me a future 1st plus a top 50 player for one of my QBs I would probably break my keyboard, so if you're getting turned down then yes I would say maybe you are unlucky in terms of the randomness of your leaguemates. 

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58 minutes ago, MAC_32 said:

I can't speak for FFPC, but there was discussion last month about the difficulty in trading within this QB market. I don't think acquiring a good one right now is anywhere near as easy as some believe. 

I think the landscape has shifted over the last couple years. There are maybe 7 or 8 really top options that you need to have one of to compete. And no they aren't cheap. 

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8 hours ago, menobrown said:

This is truly bizarre in non-SF FFPC. So no I'm not seeing this anywhere.

I've got Herbert(2) and Dak as my backup and I've never remotely sniffed a one for them, present of future. I mentioned earlier I could not get a second for Dak last year.

What did you offer for Mahomes?

 

The guy who has Mahomes doesn't have any other QB's. But I offered Baker, Deebo, 2.06, future 1st (I was the #2 pick this year thanks to some bad luck, but should be a contender). The guy has yet to see it I guess or is just letting it sit, but it's been offered for a few days.

The other QB's I went after had some combination of Baker/Sutton/Deebo/2.06 in them

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8 hours ago, Zyphros said:

The guy who has Mahomes doesn't have any other QB's. But I offered Baker, Deebo, 2.06, future 1st (I was the #2 pick this year thanks to some bad luck, but should be a contender). The guy has yet to see it I guess or is just letting it sit, but it's been offered for a few days.

The other QB's I went after had some combination of Baker/Sutton/Deebo/2.06 in them

That probably has as much to do with the roster consolidation issue prior to cutdown as it does to the value of the QB.   If you offered Baker + picks you'd probably have a better chance to get a deal done.  Adding in the extra players makes the deal less desirable. 

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9 hours ago, Zyphros said:

The guy who has Mahomes doesn't have any other QB's. But I offered Baker, Deebo, 2.06, future 1st (I was the #2 pick this year thanks to some bad luck, but should be a contender). The guy has yet to see it I guess or is just letting it sit, but it's been offered for a few days.

The other QB's I went after had some combination of Baker/Sutton/Deebo/2.06 in them

IMO you are going to have to be giving a clear upgrade with a lot of value to pry Mahomes away as opposed to multiple good, but smaller pieces. So a dollar plus a fifty cent piece as opposed to 6 quarters kind of thing, if that makes sense.

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1 hour ago, Marauder said:

That probably has as much to do with the roster consolidation issue prior to cutdown as it does to the value of the QB.   If you offered Baker + picks you'd probably have a better chance to get a deal done.  Adding in the extra players makes the deal less desirable. 

That's what I'm guessing as well, just people don't like Deebo/Sutton as much (which is kind of crazy to me). I also send offers a lot, so maybe teams are just annoyed with me too, who knows. 

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6 minutes ago, Zyphros said:

That's what I'm guessing as well, just people don't like Deebo/Sutton as much (which is kind of crazy to me). I also send offers a lot, so maybe teams are just annoyed with me too, who knows. 

If it helps to have more than one opinion, then I feel the same way Buckna does about your offer only I didn't put fingers to keyboard about it until he said it.

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2 minutes ago, rockaction said:

If it helps to have more than one opinion, then I feel the same way Buckna does about your offer only I didn't put fingers to keyboard about it until he said it.

That's the part I don't get, because I view Deebo and Sutton highly, 2.06 is valuable and Baker could be a future star since he's fixed some efficiency issues. Maybe it's just I view my own players with rose colored glasses, but that doesn't strike me as 6 quarters, that comes across to me as that "dollar piece plus a 50 cent piece" with a quarter or two mixed in offer like @Bucknaexplained.

So it basically comes down to how teams view those players, I like them a lot, but they're still my WR4/5's, so my team composition only makes sense to use them as "upgrade" pieces. But if teams don't like them enough that leaves me stuck. 

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That's the part I don't get, because I view Deebo and Sutton highly, 2.06 is valuable and Baker could be a future star since he's fixed some efficiency issues. Maybe it's just I view my own players with rose colored glasses, but that doesn't strike me as 6 quarters, that comes across to me as that "dollar piece plus a 50 cent piece" with a quarter or two mixed in offer like @Bucknaexplained.

So it basically comes down to how teams view those players, I like them a lot, but they're still my WR4/5's, so my team composition only makes sense to use them as "upgrade" pieces. But if teams don't like them enough that leaves me stuck. 

I rate Sutton highly, but Deebo as a couple of quarters. But that's me. I think Aiyuk came in and became the number one pretty quickly while Deebo was hurt. And Kittle comes back next year to suck up targets.

Baker isn't even close to solidified as a viable fantasy starter, IMO, and is a single quarter. 2.06 is definitely valuable, but it's all not enough to make me part with Mahomes (and I'm not taking roster cut downs or construction into consideration yet).

Mahomes is money in the bank. The other guys and the pick are question marks. That's just my opinion, but I don't think the guy is tired of dealing with you, it's just that the offer isn't good enough. Needs a bona fide stud without a question mark.

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4 minutes ago, Zyphros said:

That's the part I don't get, because I view Deebo and Sutton highly, 2.06 is valuable and Baker could be a future star since he's fixed some efficiency issues. Maybe it's just I view my own players with rose colored glasses, but that doesn't strike me as 6 quarters, that comes across to me as that "dollar piece plus a 50 cent piece" with a quarter or two mixed in offer like @Bucknaexplained.

So it basically comes down to how teams view those players, I like them a lot, but they're still my WR4/5's, so my team composition only makes sense to use them as "upgrade" pieces. But if teams don't like them enough that leaves me stuck. 

As much as dynasty players claim they value players from a long term perspective and player values don't fluctuate much, many have re-draft mindsets.

Deebo and Sutton lose "value" in the dynasty community simply because they were mostly out of sight (and out of mind) last season due to injury. They need to build their value back up.

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8 minutes ago, Dr. Octopus said:

As much as dynasty players claim they value players from a long term perspective and player values don't fluctuate much, many have re-draft mindsets.

Deebo and Sutton lose "value" in the dynasty community simply because they were mostly out of sight (and out of mind) last season due to injury. They need to build their value back up.

I actually think too many dynasty owners are always "playing for the future" and don't think enough like redraft from year to year.  

 

I do agree with the generally sentiment here that players like Deebo and Sutton lose a lot of perceived value after seasons like they had and if you are a believer in them you can generally get them at a nice discount.  However, trying to sell them at the healthy value will never really work.  

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3 minutes ago, Gally said:

I actually think too many dynasty owners are always "playing for the future" and don't think enough like redraft from year to year.  

I wholeheartedly endorse this statement.

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31 minutes ago, Gally said:

I actually think too many dynasty owners are always "playing for the future" and don't think enough like redraft from year to year.  

That's not really the point I was trying to make (I did not make it clearly, admittedly) but I agree there's some truth in this statement as well.

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1 hour ago, Zyphros said:

That's the part I don't get, because I view Deebo and Sutton highly, 2.06 is valuable and Baker could be a future star since he's fixed some efficiency issues. Maybe it's just I view my own players with rose colored glasses, but that doesn't strike me as 6 quarters, that comes across to me as that "dollar piece plus a 50 cent piece" with a quarter or two mixed in offer like @Bucknaexplained.

So it basically comes down to how teams view those players, I like them a lot, but they're still my WR4/5's, so my team composition only makes sense to use them as "upgrade" pieces. But if teams don't like them enough that leaves me stuck. 

To echo some of the sentiments, Deebo and Sutton are both guys I like and are targeting to acquire, but both have injury questions and doubt if they can bounce back. A guy like Mahomes, most are going to want clear upgrades/help with little question marks coming back.

For example, in 1 of my leagues where I am rebuilding I have tried to acquire Mahomes from a team that also has Dak. This team is competitive but a starter or two away from challenging the best team in the league, in order to pry Mahomes away that owner has told me he needs a clear upgrade to a stud at one of his other skill positions to consider it.

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10 hours ago, Zyphros said:

The guy who has Mahomes doesn't have any other QB's. But I offered Baker, Deebo, 2.06, future 1st (I was the #2 pick this year thanks to some bad luck, but should be a contender).

I must say I would have turned down this offer as well on my Mahomes teams and most of those teams have a top 7 backup QB but I still would have passed.

I got a working theory for the most part were if I'm giving up what I view as a blue chip player I got to get a blue chip player or a draft pick I think I'm in position to draft one and this applies even in for a devalued QB.  That future pick might be that, but I don't deal him for might be.

It so happens most of my Mahomes teams are also fairly loaded and deep and that matters as well. I mentioned blue chip players above but a more concrete thing to say might be that if I'm moving Mahomes I need to be able to improve my lineup somewhere else.  I got a league were last week I tried sending some offers to give up Herbert to a new owner who just took over a fairly stacked orphan team but one lacking at QB. He had zero interest but instead came after Mahomes with some weak offers before asking if I would trade him what would I want? I looked at his roster and replied I'd trade him but would need to get back one of AJB, Swift or Akers as part of the deal. Anything less then one of them and I'd be worsening my projected starting lineup while assisting a team I view as likely a major competitor of mine over next few years. That was also the end of those trade talks.

 

 

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Another effort to gauge the value of Michael Thomas. I've checked online dynasty rankings and trade value charts but there aren't many that have integrated 2021 rookies with vets yet so I'm interested in hearing what everyone here thinks. Please rank the following players in terms of value:

Michael Thomas

Jonathan Taylor

Etienne

Najee Harris

Ja'Marr Chase

Davonta Smith

Jaylen Waddle

Dobbins

Swift

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1 hour ago, roarlions said:

Another effort to gauge the value of Michael Thomas. I've checked online dynasty rankings and trade value charts but there aren't many that have integrated 2021 rookies with vets yet so I'm interested in hearing what everyone here thinks. Please rank the following players in terms of value:

Michael Thomas

Jonathan Taylor

Etienne

Najee Harris

Ja'Marr Chase

Davonta Smith

Jaylen Waddle

Dobbins

Swift

Taylor

Swift

Dobbins

 

Thomas

Harris

Etienne

 

Chase

Waddle

 

Smith

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2 minutes ago, Shawnky said:

Anyone care to rank these guys from a dynasty value:

 

Derrick Henry

Miles Sanders

Deandre Hopkins

Michael Thomas

I’d have them exactly as you lost them. I could flip Henry and Sanders if I was rebuilding. 

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I’d have them exactly as you lost them. I could flip Henry and Sanders if I was rebuilding. 

It's a startup and have been contemplating Sanders over Henry.  The 2 WRs are the other people I'm considering, but considering how things have unfolded, I can see 1 of them being available next round.  Lamb, Jefferson, and Swift went in the first 14 picks.  Has me scratching my head.

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3 minutes ago, Shawnky said:

Anyone care to rank these guys from a dynasty value:

 

Derrick Henry

Miles Sanders

Deandre Hopkins

Michael Thomas

Exactly like you have them. I’ll probably be in the minority with Henry given his age and workload, but he’s just cut from a different cloth to me. Until he shows me any signs that he’s slowing down, he’s about as safe as they come at the position to me, even in PPR. 

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Just now, JoeJoe88 said:

Exactly like you have them. I’ll probably be in the minority with Henry given his age and workload, but he’s just cut from a different cloth to me. Until he shows me any signs that he’s slowing down, he’s about as safe as they come at the position to me, even in PPR. 

Exactly my thought process.  Having trouble deciding between the 2.  Sanders is electric, but had multiple injuries this year.  And that oline is atrocious.

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41 minutes ago, Shawnky said:

It's a startup and have been contemplating Sanders over Henry.  The 2 WRs are the other people I'm considering, but considering how things have unfolded, I can see 1 of them being available next round.  Lamb, Jefferson, and Swift went in the first 14 picks.  Has me scratching my head.

I see no reason to think Henry doesn’t have at least one more RB1 year in him. Given his running style, I could easily see 2 RB2 seasons beyond that.  You’d have to bet on Sanders’ upside to put him ahead of Henry.

 

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11 hours ago, Zyphros said:

That's the part I don't get, because I view Deebo and Sutton highly, 2.06 is valuable and Baker could be a future star since he's fixed some efficiency issues. Maybe it's just I view my own players with rose colored glasses, but that doesn't strike me as 6 quarters, that comes across to me as that "dollar piece plus a 50 cent piece" with a quarter or two mixed in offer like @Bucknaexplained.

So it basically comes down to how teams view those players, I like them a lot, but they're still my WR4/5's, so my team composition only makes sense to use them as "upgrade" pieces. But if teams don't like them enough that leaves me stuck. 

This is ffpc, right? 

Sutton/Deebo lose value because you only have to start 2 wr and everyone already has 3-4 guys like Deebo and 2 like Sutton. 

Baker has virtually no value in ffpc non-sf. 

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On 2/7/2021 at 1:15 PM, Zyphros said:

How do people view Calvin Ridley? He broke out and looks to be that future centerpiece, but is he actually a dominant #1? I doubt it, some don't. He's a guy I can see being valued all over the place a bit. In PPR he's WR3 this past year so it's not like he isn't elite. But that team looks to be on the downswing. 

What's the difference between him and Deebo? Sutton? JuJu? DJ Moore? All who are young (or youngish, entering their prime) and have broken out with the look to be good WR2 type floors. 

Then you have the young up and coming studs who have yet to establish as much like Higgins, Lamb, Aiyuk and Claypool. All of them seem to have higher ceilings but haven't quite established their floors yet like the ones above. 

I think Calvin Ridley is a more skilled route runner and just all around better football player than the other WR you mention. He may not be as athletic as those guys or as big, but I think he is more consistent and reliable.

I think people have been unfairly dismissing Calvin Ridley and I am not sure why?

I know I fell in love with him from the first time I saw him. I was actually watching Kenyan Drake at the time. Ridley sees the defense so well he blocks one defender into another one, effectively blocking them both and Drake has nothing but grass in front of him after that.

He is great player.

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16 hours ago, roarlions said:

Another effort to gauge the value of Michael Thomas. I've checked online dynasty rankings and trade value charts but there aren't many that have integrated 2021 rookies with vets yet so I'm interested in hearing what everyone here thinks. Please rank the following players in terms of value:

Michael Thomas

Jonathan Taylor

Etienne

Najee Harris

Ja'Marr Chase

Davonta Smith

Jaylen Waddle

Dobbins

Swift

Swift

Taylor

Thomas

Dobbins

Chase

Etienne

Smith

Harris

Waddle

I havent been looking at ADP or rankings or anything so no idea how that might rank them, which when you are talking about value, I am guessing you mean the perceived value not the actual value (which none of really knows). So the perceived value would be what the ADP says and that is likely pretty different than how I rank them.

I am guessing most people have Taylor ahead of Swift for example, but I like Swift more. He reminds me of Dalvin Cook and it hurts because he plays for my favorite teams rival. I do think he could be that good though.

Taylor is awesome as well. The coaches a pita though.

I am putting the Lions woeful history aside here and everything I am hearing from the coaching staff sets Swift up to possibly have a monster season in 2021.

I like Davonta Smith a lot, maybe even more than Chase, I am undecided about that but I am open to that possibility, but I ranked him lower because I do know the consensus will not value him as much as I do.

It feels sort of wrong to have those 2 RB ahead of Michael Thomas, but I am not sure what Thomas is going to be producing if/when Brees is out of the picture. So he isnt really a player I want to have right now with that uncertainty.

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I would not adjust my ranking on Michael Thomas much vs whatever each individual settled on this time last year. I was lower on him than the consensus (unsustainable efficiency/target share), but he was still a tier 1 guy.

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23 minutes ago, Biabreakable said:

 

Taylor is awesome as well. The coaches a pita though.

 

This is why I ranked Dobbins as low as I did. Baltimore seems intent on making sure their most productive backs share time at inopportune moments. "Hey, he's producing at a healthy rate here. Don't burn him out!"

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2 minutes ago, Concept Coop said:

Dillon is going rounds after Aaron Jones - and that feels wrong to me. I prefer the former. What are your thoughts?

This is one where I can’t understand how you can rank them until we see where Williams and Jones end up...way too many moving parts which means there’s a ton of room for error.

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10 minutes ago, Concept Coop said:

Dillon is going rounds after Aaron Jones - and that feels wrong to me. I prefer the former. What are your thoughts?

Those of us that think Jones is elsewhere think Dillon is criminally under valued right now. I think once that happens then Dillon will vault to the RB15-20 range. Given the locations Jones is most likely to end up I think his value won't change much from what it is now.

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32 minutes ago, Concept Coop said:

Dillon is going rounds after Aaron Jones - and that feels wrong to me. I prefer the former. What are your thoughts?

I’m fairly certain Jones has been a top 5 rb the last two years. I think it’s safe to assume he’s playing elsewhere next year, but I don’t see his value changing much. Some team is going to pay him a lot of money and utilize him as such, and he’s one of the most dynamic backs in the league. I’m still very much on board, personally. 

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43 minutes ago, MAC_32 said:

Those of us that think Jones is elsewhere think Dillon is criminally under valued right now. I think once that happens then Dillon will vault to the RB15-20 range. Given the locations Jones is most likely to end up I think his value won't change much from what it is now.

Where is he likely to go? I expect a bad FO to sign him. 

He’s 26 and has missed games in 3 of his 4 seasons. I think he’s more likely to have zero top 10 seasons left than 2+, personally. I could be wrong, of course. Just not a profile I typically look to invest in. 

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27 minutes ago, JoeJoe88 said:

 I think it’s safe to assume he’s playing elsewhere next year

I think Aaron Jones will remain and I'm not saying that overly confident but it's the way I lean.

From what I read just a few days ago they offered him an average per year salary that would have put him among the top RB's in APY pay but it was short on guarantees. I'm just thinking if GB was inclined to offer that contract they'd be inclined to slap the franchise tag on him for about $11M.

 

 

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9 minutes ago, Concept Coop said:

Where is he likely to go? I expect a bad FO to sign him. 

He’s 26 and has missed games in 3 of his 4 seasons. I think he’s more likely to have zero top 10 seasons left than 2+, personally. I could be wrong, of course. Just not a profile I typically look to invest in. 

Seattle, Buffalo, and Miami top my list.

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7 minutes ago, menobrown said:

I think Aaron Jones will remain and I'm not saying that overly confident but it's the way I lean.

From what I read just a few days ago they offered him an average per year salary that would have put him among the top RB's in APY pay but it was short on guarantees. I'm just thinking if GB was inclined to offer that contract they'd be inclined to slap the franchise tag on him for about $11M.

What are the odds he suits up, if they do? Not great, IMO.

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8 minutes ago, menobrown said:

I think Aaron Jones will remain and I'm not saying that overly confident but it's the way I lean.

From what I read just a few days ago they offered him an average per year salary that would have put him among the top RB's in APY pay but it was short on guarantees. I'm just thinking if GB was inclined to offer that contract they'd be inclined to slap the franchise tag on him for about $11M.

Given Green Bay's cap situation and the other players that require a retain or not decision I'd be mildly surprised if he's retained at a meaningful dollar and shocked if he gets the franchise tag,

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