voiceofunreason
Footballguy
Put him otb in both the leagues I own him. Not sure anyone will buy but I'm willing to sell pretty cheap. My mistake for owning him in the first place really.
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A counter to this by the way if you want to keep it positive is that he's not been cut, formally charged, no one is making public statements expressing his guilt and have heard no reports of child services taking his kid. So far so good when you look at it that way.
Interseptopus
Footballguy
me too. whoops. Funny thing is I knew it was in the same state as st louis.... I was even asking myself- wow I didnt realize but how did Missouri ever support 2 football teams... 
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
What are you guys talking about? There is a Kansas City in BOTH Missouri and Kansas.
http://www.kchistory.org/faq/why-there-kansas-city-both-kansas-and-missouri
http://www.kchistory.org/faq/why-there-kansas-city-both-kansas-and-missouri
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Interseptopus
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barackdhouse
Footballguy
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
Ignorant wretches. Your Spanish is probably worse'n your English too.
(Just watched Tombstone again last night)
(Just watched Tombstone again last night)
kittenmittens
Footballguy
Why does it matter which state this happened in? What am I missing there?
Side note... Kansas and Missouri have been in a tax benefit race to the bottom war over KC based businesses for a while now. It's a pretty interesting story if you're not familiar.
Side note... Kansas and Missouri have been in a tax benefit race to the bottom war over KC based businesses for a while now. It's a pretty interesting story if you're not familiar.
smbkrypt24
Footballguy
Just to name a few. Different laws and policies for police and child service agencies.
Exactly. Why else would it be confusing which state the Chiefs play?
I grew up near Missouri and and Rams played in St. Louis most of my life so no matter how many times I am reminded the Chiefs play in Missouri I will still often mess up and think they are in Kansas City, KS I think because I can't grasp idea the state of Missouri supported two NFL teams.
fruity pebbles
Footballguy
joey
Footballguy
[major tangent]
sounds like the global visual effects tax credits that have created a decade of a race to the bottom while movies with VFX are earning billions. If you’re interested in more, google "visual effects industry freakonomics" for an interesting article.
[/tangent]
i was offered Woods and Jeffrey’s for Hill in FFPC and declined, fwiw.
skinfanjon
Footballguy
I just offered Tyreek for Fournette. He countered with Taylor Gabriel and a 6th for Tyreek. So yeah.
smbkrypt24
Footballguy
I offered 1.2 and a future 1st for T. Hill and was declined.
I offered R. Woods and future 1st for T. Hill and it sat for 1.5 days and I revoked it.
I offered R. Woods and future 1st for T. Hill and it sat for 1.5 days and I revoked it.
skinfanjon
Footballguy
smbkrypt24
Footballguy
bostonfred
Footballguy
Posted in the trade thread but had an amari for hill trade, straight up, not involved.
Atomic Punk
Footballguy
I just made a trade mentioned above, I just sent out another offer in a different league ... Hill for 1.03, 1.06 and 2.06 and was told he would only give the 2nd with this news. People pretty divided right now on his value.
I feel about 100% sure that he is under investigation and it's in it's early stages so not cause for celebrating but before I give him away for cheap I'm going to take the time to remember that this investigation is on day two at least and not only has he not been charged but the police are not even sure a crime was committed.
Interseptopus
Footballguy
My understanding was Friday the police forwarded the case on to the DAs office for charging on Monday
skinfanjon
Footballguy
It feels like either nothing happens or he's out of the league. Radioactive.
Frankly I'm leaning radioactive.
Frankly I'm leaning radioactive.
fruity pebbles
Footballguy
This woman’s twitter replies would make me very nervous for Reek. Her husband is the mother’s godfather. She posted about this before the news broke.
https://mobile.twitter.com/Mrs_JRobinson44/with_replies?ref_src=twsrc^tfw|twcamp^tweetembed|twterm^1106672852483354624&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.chiefsplanet.com%2FBB%2Fshowthread.php%3Ft%3D321853%26page%3D121
https://mobile.twitter.com/Mrs_JRobinson44/with_replies?ref_src=twsrc^tfw|twcamp^tweetembed|twterm^1106672852483354624&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.chiefsplanet.com%2FBB%2Fshowthread.php%3Ft%3D321853%26page%3D121
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bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
Jeff robinsons ex wife?? I remember him on the tigers....that link didnt sent me to any news.....
fruity pebbles
Footballguy
Yeah. Scroll down to her tweets. First was March 13th saying Tyreek broke his sons arm.
Stinkin Ref
IBL Representative
Again....what exactly is he supposed to say he is innocent of...?....he hasn’t even been charged with anything....he is not going to say something just to make you feel better.....should the wife do the same or is it just Tyreek because he is an NFL player and he has a “history”....they don’t owe anybody anything as far as a statement goes....
ILUVBEER99
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voiceofunreason
Footballguy
bostonfred
Footballguy
I think we can agree on the following
He's aware of the investigation.
He has been on social media since this started.
He has chosen not to comment on social media (or any other media) since news of the investigation broke
Many agents and lawyers will recommend staying away from social media while an active investigation is ongoing
Many agents and pr guys will recommend getting your side of the story out there as quickly as possible if the allegations are demonstrably false (e.g. the kid's arm wasn't broken or he is not a person of interest in the investigation)
The team may have asked him not to talk about this on social media until they're ready to make a statement
The team isn't ready to make a statement
It is unlikely that the allegations are demonstrably false
It is likely that he's still under investigation
The longer he remains under investigation - even without enough evidence to convict him of a crime - the more likely the league or the team is to take actions that could include things like suspension, being put on the commissioner's exempt list, release, or refusing to sign him to a long term contract.
Any of those actions would be really bad for his fantasy value
The risk of his fantasy value being impacted has gone up since the initial reports
I don't think any of those statements should be controversial. Do you?
Milkman
Footballguy
Yes he should want to make a statement if he's innocent. He would have virtually nothing to worry about.
voiceofunreason
Footballguy
Yeah his unknown wife should be holding a news conference. I mean a lot of famous people get accused of breaking their 3 year olds arm. It’s really not a big deal, I’m sure he’s got better things to do. If you’re innocent the best thing to do is let things play out for a few months and deal with it during the season.
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bostonfred
Footballguy
I don't think that's a fair statement. For anothe, the team might have told him to stay off social media until their investigation is complete.
That doesn't mean he's not innocent.
But if the investigation isn't complete, it means that several "good" outcomes can be taken off the table. There was a lot of speculation about whether the kid even has a broken arm, but if he didn't, i would expect the broken arm portion of the investigation to be complete by now.
voiceofunreason
Footballguy
Jesus, you think making a statement on Twitter is a good idea? Welcome to the internet, you’ve made a lot of posts in 1 day. Id say a lawyer may be a good idea.
Milkman
Footballguy
It doesn't mean he's not innocent but it does hurt his odds imo. There is a greater chance that he is guilty today than yesterday......
bostonfred
Footballguy
I've read this several times and have no idea what you're trying to say.
I don't think he should make a statement on Twitter if there's an ongoing investigation.
I would expect some kind of statement from him, his agent and/or the team if the investigation were complete and he was completely cleared.
I think we can infer that the investigation is not complete with him having been completely cleared.
I don't think we can infer his guilt or innocence, but of the many possible outcomes when this story came out, the best ones were "quick resolution with hill being completely cleared".
Yesterday there were more good outcomes than today, so the risk to his fantasy value appears to have gone up.
Interseptopus
Footballguy
Interseptopus
Footballguy
IMO it's more like this:
Not all deniers are innocent, but most non deniers are probably guilty
voiceofunreason
Footballguy
In response to people saying he should make a statement you said the team probably told him to stay off social media. Add 2 + 2.
i don’t get on what planet anybody would be dumb enough to post anything on social media. Make a statement through your lawyer.
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voiceofunreason
Footballguy
ConnSKINS26
Footballguy
I know it's not the right place...but this is tempting me. I know I'll feel stupid and wasteful if this situation isn't anything, especially since Gurley also seems like damaged goods. But I'm tempted.
barackdhouse
Footballguy
I am stewing over a much lesser offer than that right now. I literally just a couple hours ago mentioned that I wouldn't want to make any deals for Gurley right now, but the Hill thing might trump that. IDK that I would give Barkley for anyone right now, but Kamara and Gurley is sexy AF.
ConnSKINS26
Footballguy
Yeah, that's part of the dilemma for sure, the fact that Gurley could take a huge hit too, and then I've dow graded from Barkley for very little. Especially if this Tyreek stuff turns out to be nothing. Of course if the Gurley knee stuff is nothing then it's a steal anyways, maybe.
This seems to be looking just worse and worse for Tyreek by the hours. I don't know, perhaps if I were a dynasty Hill owner and someone offered me Diggs and another promising player like a Kirk or Godwin I'd probably jump on it at this point. Diggs + Godwin might be optimistic at this point.
kittenmittens
Footballguy
Does one have more strict laws than the other? Sounds like this was on the Kansas side?
Diggs ~ 2 firsts. Godwin ~ 1+ firsts
Diggs + Godwin = Tyreek last week.
Today? Not so much.
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
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