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11 minutes ago, skinfanjon said:

It's unclear whether it was an event specifically for autistic kids.  Either way, I'm certainly not going to tell you how you should feel about it given I have no first hand experience.

Just my opinion, if everyone is clearly letting the kid have his moment, they probably know his story, and Tyreek was paid to be there so I presume he'd be in the loop.  I could be wrong but it still wouldn't change mich for me.

Much ado about nothing, yeah probably.  It's not going to impact his playing status or fantasy relevance by one ounce.  And we already know he's beaten a gf and is mixed up with the investigation.  So, not news.

I guess what bothers me about it is he wasn't angry about anything or competing.  He wasnt in the heat of an argument.  He just ruined a feel good moment for no particular reason, which somehow is definitely-not-but-almost-worse in a way.  Like now I just imagine him going around slapping ice cream cones out of kids hands on the weekend for kicks.  

No I'm not gonna cut him from the one team I have him on.  It's just a real dick move imo.

Yeah, there’s no way anyone with half a brain can think in any way, shape, or form, that there is any upside to tackling a kid in that situation.  Unfortunately half a brain, Tyreek has not.

 

 

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Thanks everyone for the kind words. It was a very weak banning but I’ve done my time and I’m ready to move on. Hopefully the irony of banning someone for defending themselves over the course of t

You just fractured his ankle

Tyreek: "Cherished Crystal. Thou knowest I had rather a thousand ruffians accost me than I harm the babe. The wheels of injustice turn unabated." Crystal:"Forsooth, my dove. I alone bear the blam

Thinking of trying to trade for Hill. IMO he serves some kind of a suspension st some point, but out of the nfl...  doubt it right now. it raises a red flag for future problems. I am considering 1.10 and Godwin for him, if his owner will bite (he does want Godwin really bad)

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1 minute ago, Dr. Dan said:

Thinking of trying to trade for Hill. IMO he serves some kind of a suspension st some point, but out of the nfl...  doubt it right now. it raises a red flag for future problems. I am considering 1.10 and Godwin for him, if his owner will bite (he does want Godwin really bad)

If he bites on that he's really dumb...  Or really risk averse

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7 minutes ago, kittenmittens said:

If he bites on that he's really dumb...  Or really risk averse

Think so? KC just gave away tyreeks money to an OL, and may move on from him after this season. IMO his value lies in the KC offense. He could go somewhere like NYJ and just get lost. 

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19 minutes ago, Dr. Dan said:

Thinking of trying to trade for Hill. IMO he serves some kind of a suspension st some point, but out of the nfl...  doubt it right now. it raises a red flag for future problems. I am considering 1.10 and Godwin for him, if his owner will bite (he does want Godwin really bad)

I just got Tyreek (I hate kids with autism) Hill for Devonta Freeman and Robby Anderson.  I think Godwin and the 1.10 is a better offer than mine.   I think Tyreek’s trade value is at it’s lowest point, don’t think it can get any lower unless he gets suspended or cut.

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23 minutes ago, Dr. Dan said:

 IMO his value lies in the KC offense. He could go somewhere like NYJ and just get lost. 

He was the #6 or #7 WR in 2017  on a paltry amount of targets with Alex Smith who is arguably one of the 3 worst QB's I'd want throwing to a WR like Hill. I think only other WR to ever go over 1K yards with Smith was Maclin.

Tyreek Hill is the most explosive player in the game and a supreme talent who is helped by Mahomes as Mahomes is helped by him. Both are better together, neither is going to be lost without the other.

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39 minutes ago, Dr. Dan said:

Thinking of trying to trade for Hill. IMO he serves some kind of a suspension st some point, but out of the nfl...  doubt it right now. it raises a red flag for future problems. I am considering 1.10 and Godwin for him, if his owner will bite (he does want Godwin really bad)

Pretty good offer imo. Right now, all things considered, his value is around Diggs.

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33 minutes ago, Dr. Dan said:

Think so? KC just gave away tyreeks money to an OL, and may move on from him after this season. IMO his value lies in the KC offense. He could go somewhere like NYJ and just get lost. 

I agree that he's way more valuable as a Chief, but they also don't need to sign him this year and have a viable excuse if he gets angry about that.  You want an extension? Well we wanted to give you one, but now we have to wait until this thing plays out.  

They can franchise tag him to keep him on a year to year deal. 

If he does go elsewhere, you paid less than half price so his value should still be higher than what you paid. 

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I traded for Hill in 2 leagues over the last few weeks. Feel pretty good about both as long as he isn't suddenly cut.

Gave: OJ Howard and 1.6 for Hill 

Gave: Golladay and Eifert for Hill 

At those prices felt he was absolutely worth the risk. 

 

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2 hours ago, kittenmittens said:

I put my money where my mouth is and offered that for Hill in the league I own Godwin.  It hasn't been accepted.  I'll probably pull it off the table before too long since it's not wise to have offers sitting out there when news can break at any time. 

I may float it after the NFL draft myself. or when I'm on the clock. It's worth the risk for sure, I'm just concerned about his long term value

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16 minutes ago, Dr. Dan said:

I may float it after the NFL draft myself. or when I'm on the clock. It's worth the risk for sure, I'm just concerned about his long term value

If nothing comes of this....it actually seems to work out for the Chiefs....they will be able to resign him at some point at a discount "just because".....you have to think Hill wants to stay with Mahomes if he can....so long term value may be really good fantasy wise

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34 minutes ago, zeeshan2 said:

Johnson County KS DA‏ @JohnsonCoDA

Today at 3:00, Steve will be holding a press conference regarding the criminal investigation involving Tyreek Hill and Crystal Espinal. This will be held in our 4th floor conference room.

 

https://twitter.com/JohnsonCoDA/status/1121107103052107776

Uhoh.  Time to pull back those trade offers. 

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I have had 3 shares of Hill and have moved him in all 3. The last share went last week when I traded him for Corey Davis straight. I know everybody on this forum hates Davis but I still like him, don't love him, would rather have Hill without the nonsense. We'll see.

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so basically - not enough evidence for the state's attorney's office to pursue charges, but they believe a crime has occurred.
 

So it is likely that Tyreek Hill did commit the crime, but no charges. What does the NFL do?

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[Pryor] Johnson County DA Stephen Howe announces they will decline to file charges in the investigation involving Chiefs WR Tyreek Hill and his fiancee Crystal Espinal

https://twitter.com/bepryor/status/1121142158294228992?s=21

 

Matt Verderame ✔ @MattVerderame

#Chiefs WR Tyreek Hill could still face discipline from the NFL. There's a precedent for suspension despite no legal action. Commissioner Roger Goodell has the ultimate authority on league matters.

 

3:07 PM - Apr 24, 2019

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3 minutes ago, pbandy1 said:

so basically - not enough evidence for the state's attorney's office to pursue charges, but they believe a crime has occurred.
 

So it is likely that Tyreek Hill did commit the crime, but no charges. What does the NFL do?

It probably depends on how much negative media attention this gets. 

It couldn't break at a better time.  In 27 hours the draft will dominate all NFL news.  Today is like a Friday afternoon on steroids. 

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25 minutes ago, Soulfly3 said:

Addiction is not a choice. Getting to the point of addiction, I can basically agree w that. But once you have a dependency, no... It's no longer a choice

That's not remotely true.  

I doubt they lead with that in rehab....."well guys from this point on the addiction has you, and nothing you do from here on out is under your control.  Go crazy folks!!!!"

Cmon Soul

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so no criminal charges...so thats done... but CPS may still be involved...and there can be a lot of layers on that onion.....and that also means we we never really know what happened because a child is involved and it is not a criminal case.....the details will not be released.......all you can do is speculate, but even the NFL won't be able to find out what actually happened...I'm guessing nothing happens because I am not sure you can suspend somebody if you do not even know if they actually did something....

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They said a crime was committed but there's not enough evidence to prove who committed it.  This doesn't clear him of wrongdoing.  The fact a crime was committed and he was more than likely the one who did it could still lead to a suspension.

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1 minute ago, kittenmittens said:

Another takeaway is that he is not cleared of wrongdoing.  Even if no punishment is issued this time, it could increase punishment or public outcry if there is ever another incident in the future. 

curious....do they normally come out and say "cleared of wrong doing" .....?....

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Just now, elshagon said:

They said a crime was committed but there's not enough evidence to prove who committed it.  This doesn't clear him of wrongdoing.  The fact a crime was committed and he was more than likely the one who did it could still lead to a suspension.

how do you know this...?

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there are so many possibilities......like...he could have been holding the child and the fiance tried to grab the child away from him and his arm was broken....Tyreek really may have done NOTHING wrong....if you say he probably did....that is pure speculation.....don't think any of us want punished for speculation....

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2 minutes ago, Stinkin Ref said:

technically.....it could have totally been the fiance that did it....but Tyreek was just there....as long as that remains a possibility, I am not sure he can be punished....

Agreed. That criteria will make it much tougher for the NFL to suspend Hill.

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It’s funny that our law system is supposed to be inocent until proven guilty yet most are automatically guilty in the public eye once associated or accused. It’s a damn shame this is what goes down. The media is the ultimate manipulator.

This is a clear win for Hill owners from a fantasy perspective. 

 

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1 minute ago, dipandglide said:

It’s funny that our law system is supposed to be inocent until proven guilty yet most are automatically guilty in the public eye once associated or accused. It’s a damn shame this is what goes down. The media is the ultimate manipulator.

Just because someone isn't "legally" guilty doesn't mean that I can't have an opinion about whether or not I think they are a piece of #### child abuser.

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23 minutes ago, Stinkin Ref said:

curious....do they normally come out and say "cleared of wrong doing" .....?....

There is a pretty big difference between "we have investigated and no crime occurred" and "a crime occurred but we can't tell if the guilty party was the NFL player with documented anger issues or the elementary school teacher trained to have patience with children."

 

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22 minutes ago, Stinkin Ref said:

how do you know this...?

He said more than likely, he's not saying he knows Hill did it. Wouldn't you say that Hill is more likely to commit the crime than his fiance, given the child's injuries and Hill's background>

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:lmao:

Kid gets arm broken by one of his two parents but they can't conclusively prove which.  Our choices are the mom that is a teacher and currently pregnant with twin babies or the super strong football player who has a history of the most egregious domestic abuse imaginable and it is out of line to say it was "probably" Tyreek?

OK then.  You keep sticking up for this guy magic football owners of him.

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