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WR Tyreek Hill, MIA (4 Viewers)
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bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
come on ref.....I know you are a KC homer, just expect him to miss a few games, he has a history and for god sakes he has his child removed from his home by CPS...
me personally for FF I don't care. these athletes being role models is a thing of past....Just let me know whats up with tyreek before I draft and Ill adjust accordingly.
kittenmittens
Footballguy
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Look I would be asking the same questions if any of your were in Hill’s situation......anybody for that matter....
bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
If he gets suspended he could appeal and get it reduced....hell even take it to court like Brady or Zeke, but in the end, the commish wins, and we know how he rolls at this point....just be glad it might only be like 2/3 games....
NightStalkers
Footballguy
May not suspend him at all. He will be investigated by the league. If the investigators find enough to think that it is more likely than not then they can suspend or banish him. He could get suspended if he doesn't cooperate with the leagues investigations. Remember brady got suspended for destroying his own phone, which was own property. Honestly think the next CBA should have an independent arbirtor for discipline.
ChiefD
Footballguy
First off, there is no way he gets 2-3 games.
This is abuse of a child. Abuse of a child. Abuse of a child. Let it sink in you dunce-headed people.
The DA said a crime was committed but he didn't have enough evidence to bring it to trial. This means Hill either did it or is covering for his fiance.
Hill is done in the NFL. This is my opinion. Done.
Abuse of a child is the worst of the worst. He's done.
This is abuse of a child. Abuse of a child. Abuse of a child. Let it sink in you dunce-headed people.
The DA said a crime was committed but he didn't have enough evidence to bring it to trial. This means Hill either did it or is covering for his fiance.
Hill is done in the NFL. This is my opinion. Done.
Abuse of a child is the worst of the worst. He's done.
Bronco Billy
Footballguy
KAFFEE Doctor, was there any sign of violence?
SAM You mean other than the dead body?
KAFFEE #### I walk into that every time
bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
Stinkin Ref
IBL Representative
I guess yeah.....what did he do this time.....not when he was in college....what did he do this time....what is the conduct?....Really?
Elevencents
Footballguy
Seriously. So much of this social stuff in the news these days that to be quite honest - idgaf. I watch football because I enjoy it. Of course I don’t want to imagine players as bad people but at the end of the day it really doesnt make a difference to me. I’m just sick of hearing about it and every other story that catches fire due to the social injustice. Just give me my highlights and leave the other #### for TMZ.
Elevencents
Footballguy
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I guess the reason I am so hung up on trying to hear what exactly some of you think he should actually be suspended for is because ultimately those may be the words that RG will have to say and justify when/if Hill is sitting across the desk from him and he tells him why he is being suspended....
If they are/this certain DA, is so sure that a crime was committed then why aren’t they pressing charges. If they are so sure then that means they should have evidence to prove it otherwise they are just making headlines for the press.
FreeBaGeL
Footballguy
For probably breaking his kid's arm, just like Zeke was suspended for probably sexually assaulting someone, the Pats and Brady were punished for probably deflating footballs, etc.
Bronco Billy
Footballguy
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People can sit hear all day and think they they are making some great proclamation by making snide comments like this all day....but it doesn’t change anything....yeah we know the kid has a broken arm but we have no idea how it happened....and Roger and his investigating team won’t either...
kittenmittens
Footballguy
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I think most of us would be pretty upset if we got suspended from our job because we “probably” did something....
NightStalkers
Footballguy
One answer might be double jeopardy. If they aren't sure they can get a conviction on whoever they think did it they are better off trying to get more information and possibly charging later. This could have started in the hospital. Doctor's know how bones are broken and if was something like jerking the arm the wrong way etc then they may have clued the police into this. Hill might not be guilty at all, his wife may have done it. The league will have it's say one way or another even if nothing is done to Hill by the league.
kittenmittens
Footballguy
I don't think this is that hard to understand. If it brings a lot of negative attention to the NFL he will probably fave punishment. If this does not get a lot of media hype and blows over, he might not get punished by the league.
It doesn't matter what the league proves he did or didn't do, it matters what kind of negative attention it brings to the league.
not to mention, people seem to be forgetting that TWO separate police reports were made within two weeks - one for the battery, but also one for neglect. So there is a pattern here.
NightStalkers
Footballguy
Some jobs are at will jobs. Been doing IT contracting for 20 years at US Govt sites and every offer letter I have gotten has had that, as almost all do. They can fire you for any reason they like including that the customer doesn't like you.
Anarchy99
Footballguy
https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/04/19/is-tyreek-hill-already-facing-a-personal-conduct-policy-suspension/
Conduct that poses a genuine danger to the safety and the well-being to another person.
it’s an actual clause in the Player Conduct Policy.
well, there you go. The fact that child services removed the child from the home is evidence enough.
FreeBaGeL
Footballguy
People get fired from jobs all the time for circumstantial evidence that is a lot less damning than what there is against Tyreek.
You think everyone ever fired for sexual harrassment had video evidence against them?
barackdhouse
Footballguy
So I'm pretty much gonna try and let the dust settle on this a little bit first. I'll say this. I'd rather be talking about the draft. Speaking of which, if KC takes a WR early (relative to the WR ranks) I don't think it says anything. I would assume they'd take a WR anyway.
Kevrunner
Footballguy
With the language the District Attorney used, he was clearly letting everyone know he feels that Tyreek caused the boy’s broken arm. I’m guessing that Tyreek’s previous brutal attack against his pregnant girlfriend figured into the DA’s decision to use the language he chose to. I read some comments that maybe the boy’s mother did it. If there was any chance of that happening, I would think the DA would have worded his statement differently. This press conference was about Tyreek Hill, if there was any chance he wasn’t guilty, the DA wouldn’t have put the bullseye 
on Tyreek’s back like he did. That’s the way I see it.
on Tyreek’s back like he did. That’s the way I see it.
Stinkin Ref
IBL Representative
If the league chooses to extend its power this far so be it....I guess just being in the environment or involved in some way is enough for them and a suspension....but as that article indicates it still could be that Hill didn’t actually do anything...
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one thing I'm wondering is how the police reports were generated, as I'm not sure if this has or will be disclosed publicly. But obviously someone either 1) called 911, in which police responded to the house and made a report, or 2) went to the police station or DCF offices to make a report, and did this twice as two reports were made. I don't see Tyreek Hill doing either of these things.With the language the District Attorney used, he was clearly letting everyone know he feels that Tyreek caused the boy’s broken arm. I’m guessing that Tyreek’s previous brutal attack against his pregnant girlfriend figured into the DA’s decision to use the language he chose to. I read some comments that maybe the boy’s mother did it. If there was any chance of that happening, I would think the DA would have worded his statement differently. This press conference was about Tyreek Hill, if there was any chance he wasn’t guilty, the DA wouldn’t have put the bullseye
Bronco Billy
Footballguy
We may not, but the DA clearly does and went out of his way to say exactly that in a public statement. He may feel he wouldn’t get a conviction at this time but that doesn’t mean he doesn’t have evidence to support his position, and if he didn’t he wouldn’t be going out of his way to make such a strong statement.
Stinkin Ref
IBL Representative
My children are old....but when they were younger and if they were removed from my custody for some reason...my employer would probably never know....and if I was investigated by the police and not charged they probably wouldn’t know that either....and then if for some reason they found out and asked I could see saying ...”it’s really none of your business”....being in the public eye kinda sucks sometimes I guess...
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Bronco Billy
Footballguy
bucksoh
Footballguy
I don't know if he did it or not but being a foster parent of 12 years. A lot of the kids I've taken in, it is beyond ridiculous they were put in foster care to begin with. CPS need to stop giving incentives to case workers for getting the kids in the systems.
CPS is beyond corrupt and broken and probably needs to be scrapped. And the last statement shows truly how ignorant some people are!
dipandglide
Footballguy
Less than 4.31%, IMOChuckLiddell said:
Anarchy99
Footballguy
King of the Jungle
Footballguy
Wonder what the attendance will be at the youth football camp he is hosting June 1 & 2......
ghostguy123
Footballguy
I thought we established a long time ago that doing something on video makes it significantly worse for the player. Maybe 10x worse.
ghostguy123
Footballguy
Rehashing this line 5000 times definitely qualifies as defending him. It just is. You are the only one who doesnt understand that.
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
ghostguy123
Footballguy
Your posts remind me of what the fighters say between rounds on the NES version of Mike Tyson's Punch Out
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
Are you purposely being obtuse just because this guy plays for your favorite team?
The kid doesn’t “just have a broken arm”. Kids break bones all the time. I broke my leg as a kid and guess what? I was not taken away from my parents. CS thinks it’s pretty likely this was not an accident and since he was taken away from his home, it follows that some one thinks that one of the parents did something bad.
That alone should tell you something at least, but keep burying your head in the sand.
Sure I’ll grant you that we can not be positive that it was Hill, but any intelligent non-fanboy has to admit that it’s at least likely he did it.
fruity pebbles
Footballguy
Not too mention, word around the campfire is he not only had a spiral fracture of that arm but welts and bruises all over his body as well. Guarantee they know exactly what happened and who did it. Proving it is a different story when the family’s circling the wagon.
Birdie048
Footballguy
That is news I have not heard! This joins the AP level of child raising skills. If this is accurate info, he is looking at more than a few games from Judge Goodell
fruity pebbles
Footballguy
Rumor of course but from someone who has reported on a number of items that have come out as true but again that they can’t prove who did it. Obviously from the DAs statement they are convinced it was from abuse and not normal three year old bumps and bruises. They’ve seen enough that they can tell the difference.
Stinkin Ref
IBL Representative
I would say the same thing for anybody in this situation....I know some of you are taking the tone and context of what I am saying and making it sound like I am defending Hill....I am not.....I wouldn’t even know what I was defending if I was.....I don’t know what he did or didn’t do....so I wouldn’t know what to defend...
with that said....
As it stands now for Hill (nobody else, including his child, just Hill).... technically, the only thing that has really changed from this time last year to now is his kid has been temporarily removed from his custody......
I just want to talk about the draft today not Tyreek but he did recently release a statement: https://twitter.com/TerezPaylor/status/1121431639740026881
ghostguy123
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