JamieMurphy 419 Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 2 minutes ago, Tool said: I didn't listen to audio but have to consider that she's afraid of additional abuse too so her actions could be influenced by that. That's what I thought. I also thought that by giving her recording to a friend and having it released she was putting herself, a pregnant mom with twins, in considerable danger knowing his penchant for violence. I'm going to say without knowing her plan, she may have been putting things into motion that would attempt to protect her unborn. Why she chose to stay with him after the first incident will always puzzle me about victims, but that's a discussion for another day. I hope the kid is in a place where he is safe and loved and can learn that not everyone out there is out to hurt him. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ZenoRazon 351 Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 (edited) After listening to the audio, it's real obvious this guy needs to be locked up and taken off the streets...bro. The guy is an idiot to begin with a dangerous one....bro. He should never been given another shot at all. You smack a pregnant woman around you will not play football for any school anywhere ever, much less the NFL.....bro. Hopefully McMahon wouldn't........... Edited April 26, 2019 by ZenoRazon Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Soulfly3 4,406 Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 Also, the DA should charge him regardless. Who cares if u lose, u try regardless to smear this loser's name as much as possible Also, methinks ud win Quote Link to post Share on other sites
fruity pebbles 3,271 Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 1 minute ago, Soulfly3 said: Also, the DA should charge him regardless. Who cares if u lose, u try regardless to smear this loser's name as much as possible Also, methinks ud win Bet the investigation is reopened. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DocHolliday 4,080 Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 And there is the fire. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
matttyl 2,689 Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 First and foremost, this is a horrible situation all around. This kid, and the two unborn twins who will now grow up in this situation. Devastating. While this is a FF site, though, I did have an "open offer" of a second round pick for him up until yesterday. The guy never wanted it. Even today saying that if Hunt and Peterson can play again, so can an only 25 year old Hill who runs a 4.2. This one just feels different in terms of an NFL suspension. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
fruity pebbles 3,271 Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 Just now, matttyl said: First and foremost, this is a horrible situation all around. This kid, and the two unborn twins who will now grow up in this situation. Devastating. While this is a FF site, though, I did have an "open offer" of a second round pick for him up until yesterday. The guy never wanted it. Even today saying that if Hunt and Peterson can play again, so can an only 25 year old Hill who runs a 4.2. This one just feels different in terms of an NFL suspension. If I was willing to roster him I’d prolly still take him over a 2nd. That said this seems much worse than AP or Hunt. Could make a rehabilitation case for either of them. Given his past and now present, Hill is a legit monster. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Max Power 4,126 Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 45 minutes ago, ZenoRazon said: Hopefully McMahon wouldn't........... Youve said some crazy stuff before, but this man.... XFL would take him in a heartbeat Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bicycle_seat_sniffer 5,109 Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 4 minutes ago, matttyl said: First and foremost, this is a horrible situation all around. This kid, and the two unborn twins who will now grow up in this situation. Devastating. While this is a FF site, though, I did have an "open offer" of a second round pick for him up until yesterday. The guy never wanted it. Even today saying that if Hunt and Peterson can play again, so can an only 25 year old Hill who runs a 4.2. This one just feels different in terms of an NFL suspension. its really not much different than the AP thing, Quote Link to post Share on other sites
matttyl 2,689 Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 3 minutes ago, bicycle_seat_sniffer said: its really not much different than the AP thing, Broken arm, on a younger child, seems different. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
skinfanjon 237 Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 Wonder what Milkdud's "source" is saying now? 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HellToupee 15,670 Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 1 hour ago, fruity pebbles said: Yep. Especially after the DA decided to not charge him. Was asked if I was interested in him last night. Said I'd roster Stephen Hill before Tyreek Hill ever sees my team again. Oh damn I thought you bought cheap Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HellToupee 15,670 Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 This “guy” deserves all the bad that follows I hope his child is financially taken care of by the league/chiefs 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cobalt_27 3,076 Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 On 4/24/2019 at 8:45 PM, Milkman said: Two investigations. No charges. Hill's past transgressions. That's what we got FBG. Now that we have the tapes, are you still defending this piece of human waste? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Milkman 2,348 Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 3 minutes ago, cobalt_27 said: Now that we have the tapes, are you still defending this piece of human waste? Obviously not. Are you really that stupid to even ask? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Milkman 2,348 Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 @cobalt_27 are you happy Tyreek beat his child so you can come in here and beat your chest about being right or do you wish your were wrong and the child had just fallen and broken his arm? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cobalt_27 3,076 Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 Just now, Milkman said: @cobalt_27 are you happy Tyreek beat his child so you can come in here and beat your chest about being right or do you wish your were wrong and the child had just fallen and broken his arm? No. I’m actually pissed off and saddened that you deliberately ignored and minimized all of the signs of child abuse. Kids are damaged when adults look the other way. And my hope is this is a lesson for you in the future, but judging from the tone of your post, looks like you have learned nothing. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Milkman 2,348 Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 We have a child being beat, a mother being terrorized, and just lost the best WR/QB duo the league has seen since Moss/Brady. By all means boys pound your chests. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
voiceofunreason 1,039 Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 3 minutes ago, Milkman said: @cobalt_27 are you happy Tyreek beat his child so you can come in here and beat your chest about being right or do you wish your were wrong and the child had just fallen and broken his arm? Most of us already knew he did it. It's good there's some proof so he's out of the league and hopefully doesn't get his son back. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Milkman 2,348 Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 Just now, cobalt_27 said: No. I’m actually pissed off and saddened that you deliberately ignored and minimized all of the signs of child abuse. Kids are damaged when adults look the other way. And my hope is this is a lesson for you in the future, but judging from the tone of your post, looks like you have learned nothing. Waiting for facts to come out is not deliberately ignoring anything. You just want to pick a fight. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Milkman 2,348 Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 cobalt_27 are you happy you were right? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
voiceofunreason 1,039 Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 3 minutes ago, Milkman said: We have a child being beat, a mother being terrorized, and just lost the best WR/QB duo the league has seen since Moss/Brady. By all means boys pound your chests. You are terrible. Get some help. 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sho nuff 16,970 Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 9 minutes ago, Milkman said: Obviously not. Are you really that stupid to even ask? 3 minutes ago, Milkman said: cobalt_27 are you happy you were right? 4 minutes ago, Milkman said: Waiting for facts to come out is not deliberately ignoring anything. You just want to pick a fight. That bold is funny given your posts here man. Give it up...it’s not a good look. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
doowain 823 Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 6 minutes ago, Milkman said: @cobalt_27 are you happy Tyreek beat his child so you can come in here and beat your chest about being right or do you wish your were wrong and the child had just fallen and broken his arm? Cool deflect, bro. You can't really think that anyone in here is happy that Tyreek beats his son and broke his arm just so they would be viewed as "right". If you do, that is super warped. I can't speak for everyone, but I'm not happy that what I thought was true was actually true. I was actually hoping for the opposite. What I am happy about is that he's not going to get away with it. 7 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cobalt_27 3,076 Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 3 minutes ago, Milkman said: cobalt_27 are you happy you were right? What a sad question...that could only be asked by someone who for days was insensitive to the needs of an abused kid and went literally to “meteor[ic]” lengths to defend the child abuser. For the record, emphatic no to your question. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Andy Dufresne 12,109 Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 Milk...all you had to do was say "You guys were right. I was wrong." Crow tastes bad going down but the upside is that you gain a little respect from the people watching you eat it. 11 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ghostguy123 3,861 Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 34 minutes ago, bicycle_seat_sniffer said: its really not much different than the AP thing, Really? Seems 100x worse in every way 6 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Pipes 2,785 Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 32 minutes ago, matttyl said: Broken arm, on a younger child, seems different. Yeah it's a lot different. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ghostguy123 3,861 Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 2 minutes ago, Pipes said: Yeah it's a lot different. The whole beating and terrorizing the fiance is sorta different 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SayWhat? 4,118 Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 How you ####### ever consider punching a three year old in the chest is beyond me. He threatens his fiancé that she should be terrified of him too, essentially acknowledging that his child is. The fact that he (likely) broke his kids arm is just the icing on the POS sundae. All of this being in the wake of his “second chance” following his disgusting actions before entering the NFL. If the League doesn’t ban him for life, it will be not only surprising but extremely disappointing. 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
fruity pebbles 3,271 Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 Jesus, in my mind, simply spanking a three year old is bad enough. They don’t know why you’re hitting them, just know they’re being beaten. Add to that a belt, punching him in the chest and ultimately breaking his arm. There were rumors that the young boy had bruises and welts of various states of healing all over his body, in addition to the arm. Certainly appears to be likely. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Andy Dufresne 12,109 Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 At some point, the NFL will start publicly asking some serious questions about the Chiefs franchise, right? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bicycle_seat_sniffer 5,109 Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 Just now, Andy Dufresne said: At some point, the NFL will start publicly asking some serious questions about the Chiefs franchise, right? they just traded for Frank Clark Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Andy Dufresne 12,109 Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 Just now, bicycle_seat_sniffer said: they just traded for Frank Clark That's what I'm saying... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Soulfly3 4,406 Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 this won't be a suspension. this will be a walk to the exit. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
menobrown 3,957 Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 13 minutes ago, ghostguy123 said: Really? Seems 100x worse in every way It's a lot worse for many reasons. If I recall AP never denied it and in fact almost seemed like the last person to know you are not supposed to discipline your kid like that. In this case we got a repeat offender, who apparently was far more abusive then just taking a switch to his child, who fully knows he did something wrong to the point he conspired to hide the crime and the cherry on top is that he continues to threaten the person he beat and choked years ago even after going through treatment and counseling. I don't think he ever plays again but with 1 or 2 years of of PR and time along with game changing talent I won't say it's impossible if he gets back in the league but we always discuss the impact of video and we might have just got presented something worse then video. In the annals of NFL scumbag history this might play worse to the public persona then anyone other then Rae Carruth. I don't think even a murderer like Aaron Hernandez was this reviled. I'm trying to picture how a team can sale signing him in a year or two and really struggling to do so. 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
fruity pebbles 3,271 Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 Anonymous call to police last night to do a wellness check on Crystal. She was home and ok, Tyreek wasn’t there. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
huthut 1,540 Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, matttyl said: Broken arm, on a younger child, seems different. Not to mention the direct threat to his fiancee in the audio. He should be done. Edited April 26, 2019 by huthut Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Da Guru 6,446 Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 2 hours ago, Soulfly3 said: Child services remove children only as a precaution. Highlight of the thread. Get well, kid. May your father rot in hell Players like Hill are a prime reason I never get personally invested into pro athletes. None of us know the real person. I used to think Miguel Cabrera was the nicest ,real good guy, family man type of pro athlete. Turns out Cabrera is not a good guy at all..quite the opposite. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
fruity pebbles 3,271 Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 About to talk about the Hill tape on First Take Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BradtheAg 138 Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 Disappointing that the Chiefs haven't already released him. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Concept Coop 1,764 Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 I’m happy this piece of #### never for a huge contract. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ChiefD 19,277 Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 Just now, BradtheAg said: Disappointing that the Chiefs haven't already released him. Agree. Was hoping they would come out strong this morning and be done with this guy, but it typical Chiefs fashion they are being the Chiefs. Really, really starting to hate my beloved, longtime team. And too bad, because Mahomes is the type of guy you want on your team and just exudes class. But even he may not be enough to keep me on my hometown team. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hairy Snowman 293 Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 The recording is not a good look at all. IMO Chiefs are going to have to cut ties soon. It is a shame. IMO Tyreek is going to be out of the NFL for a year (I would think) one way or the other. Then we will see. This isn't a career killer (as bad as it seems right now). FF wise: Undraftable in redraft. Dynasty, I think he is a stash. He will play again and when he does... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cobalt_27 3,076 Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 1 minute ago, Hairy Snowman said: The recording is not a good look at all. IMO Chiefs are going to have to cut ties soon. It is a shame. IMO Tyreek is going to be out of the NFL for a year (I would think) one way or the other. Then we will see. This isn't a career killer (as bad as it seems right now). FF wise: Undraftable in redraft. Dynasty, I think he is a stash. He will play again and when he does... He’s not playing another down again. Ever. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hairy Snowman 293 Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 (edited) 5 minutes ago, cobalt_27 said: He’s not playing another down again. Ever. We will find out in time. This isn't the first case of child abuse the league has dealt with. In the court systems, crimes involving parental authority is treated differently than standard crimes. Ruining Tyreek Hill isn't exactly doing the child any favors either. IMO Whatever happens, it will be what is in the best interests of the child first and foremost. I don't think a permanent ban from football is going to be that for Tyreek. My guess is suspension, counseling, therapy and some kind of probation with check points. Edited April 26, 2019 by Hairy Snowman Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Soulfly3 4,406 Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 Wow. If you look on Twitter (search tyreek hill) it seems almost all major outlets and reporters are BLASTING hill and saying he should never play again. Never seen this before Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kutta 5,527 Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 Bump Watkins 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ChuckLiddell 623 Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 4 minutes ago, Hairy Snowman said: We will find out in time. This isn't the first case of child abuse the league has dealt with. In the court systems, crimes involving parental authority is treated differently than standard crimes. Ruining Tyreek Hill isn't exactly doing the child any favors either. IMO Whatever happens, it will be what is in the best interests of the child first and foremost. I don't think a permanent ban from football is going to be that for Tyreek. My guess is suspension, counseling, therapy and some kind of probation with check points. You may not help Tyreek's child by banning him, but the message it sends may help to prevent such grizzly acts from occurring again. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Max Power 4,126 Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 Just now, kutta said: Bump Watkins You just fractured his ankle 4 20 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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