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Everything went perfect for KC last year. No way Mahommes throws 50 TD. 40 gonna be tough. Probably 35 and he still is qb 1 or 2
He was #1 in our format (bonus for plays over 40 & TDs over 40 - he had 8 & 4 - plus 0.04 for return yards.)
50 TD (yet alone 40) is not sustainable. Maybe I’m wrong and he already a HOF Qb. At current ADP Mahommes is going late 2 mid 3 he would have to repeat 50 to justify that ADP. You would be drafting him based on his ceiling - too rich for me. Defenses adjust too. After suspension news Hill will also be drafted at his ceiling imho.
I think the point he is trying to make is last year it maybe felt like if he didn't score 40 points he felt fairly average. 7 weeks of 7,14,10,12,6,8,13 scoring will do that. Granted 40 point weeks win you that week so there is that....
Next 3-4 years is peak Tyreek/Mahomes. Pass on them if you want. With Tyreek not missing any games Mahomes good for 40. It's never been done before is true but every record that has been set wasn't done before it was. The league is changing. Passing more. Better QB are coming out of college all the time. Tyreek is the best deep threat the league has seen since Randy Moss. I'm buying.
awesomeMike Florio reacts to no suspension for Hill (Hitler parody)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SRekzqPYaKg
Even if you take away his three 40+ point weeks, he still had 5 other weeks where he scored 20+. Everybody always wants to say he’s basically just a deep threat and boom/bust because they see all the highlight reel 50+ yard tds, but that’s actually not the case.
I hear you. But compared to say Adams, Hopkins and a few others towards the top last year he could and should be considered inconsistent (none of them had 6 weeks of 13 or less points). I like hill but I like 5-6 guys more going into this year.
I mean they wouldn't be wrong. Zeke must have shown up to his interview with Goodell, and sat down and told Roger to go F himself or something.
That might still be a fine pick. Watkins is almost a lock to be gone after this year, and Hill is no lock to be there in 2020, and seemingly will always be an off field risk. Hardman's floor is probably the #3 option in the best passing game in the league after 2019, with upside for more. If people were expecting Hardman to be a difference maker in 2019, than they were kidding themselves to begin with, but I still don't see him as all that different than guys like Campbell or Samuel.
Especially when the video is brutal and the voice recording when heard in its full context is meh at best.
I knew what scene this would be before even clicking the link hahaMike Florio reacts to no suspension for Hill (Hitler parody)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SRekzqPYaKg
They won't budge on guys like Gordon with marijuana despite nearly unanimous public outcry and massively shifted social norms, so I kind of doubt we have to worry about the NFL worrying about public opinion when it comes to player discipline.
I'm pretty sure the public opinion on the "mainstream" NFL fanbase sites is against Marijuana or 50/50 at best - not unanimous at all from the thumbs up/down on comments?
Take from it what you will, but this was posted 5 days ago:
Nevermind - I stand corrected. After further review, it seems like it's about 5 to 1 ratio in favor of Marijuana.
For sure - I read that a few days ago. It doesn't seem to be getting the mainstream attention it should.
Dude thinks we're still in April.[Tucker] Ultimately it appears Tyreek Hill got the benefit of the doubt that Zeke and others didn't even though he 1) has a heinous prior conviction on his record, 2) the DA said in a statement that he believed a crime was committed, and 3) very disturbing threatening audio.
https://twitter.com/RossTuckerNFL/status/1152283774853533696
brilliant!!Mike Florio reacts to no suspension for Hill (Hitler parody)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SRekzqPYaKg
They are all digging in. Damage control.[Tucker] Ultimately it appears Tyreek Hill got the benefit of the doubt that Zeke and others didn't even though he 1) has a heinous prior conviction on his record, 2) the DA said in a statement that he believed a crime was committed, and 3) very disturbing threatening audio.
https://twitter.com/RossTuckerNFL/status/1152283774853533696
Tweet him that medium link and see if he's got the stones to read it. Tucker is a ####.[Tucker] Ultimately it appears Tyreek Hill got the benefit of the doubt that Zeke and others didn't even though he 1) has a heinous prior conviction on his record, 2) the DA said in a statement that he believed a crime was committed, and 3) very disturbing threatening audio.
https://twitter.com/RossTuckerNFL/status/1152283774853533696
I mean, they have nothing to lose this way. Criticizing Goodell is popular, potential domestic violence is not, and if anything else bad ever happens they can say they were on the right side of it.
I'm with him on this. Doesn't make a lot of sense in the context of some other suspensions. But, it really doesn't make much difference one way or the other I just hope Hill's son is out of danger whomever the culprit is.
Do you know all the evidence Tyreek gave to the NFL?
Meh, I don't think you can really blame those people. If someone gave up a 1st for him a month ago, they would have been ridiculed by 90% of the shark pool. Things aren't always predictable and this certainly wasn't, so at the time those who traded him probably made the right move. Sucks for them but that's fantasy football for you.
I would hope/think that there's a very watchful eye on his son now. Would be shocked if whoever it was, did it again now.
Of course not. I'm not looking to get into a debate about it because neither of us know anything. I just think it is disingenuous to say that the opinion is simply people refusing to admit they were wrong. There are far to many unknowns here for the NFL to be sure of anything. So looking at this within the lens of some of their other personal conduct suspensions isn't just anti-Hill sentiment.
He likely 'should' be taken in between the pumpers and the bashers. I see him right around WR5 but it seems there's going to be the "told you so" people who gamble on him at wr2 or wr3. He won't be a 'value' pick this year but I agree he is going to likely be drafted at his ceiling. He does seemingly have a high season-long floor too though so it wouldn't be a league losing pick.
No you're doing the same thing all the other garbage reporters did when they convicted Hill before they knew anything. We don't know what he gave them. Rumor is it's definitive proof she set him up in 2014. I don't know if that's true but if it is it changes a lot.
Nah. Hill moves the needle in ways most can't. You sit, wait, and collect more info before you sell a player like Hill for peanuts. Is there risk doing that? Of course. He was worth that risk.
If the result was what the majority believed would happen (lengthy suspension), than it would have been a good move. So many people around here love to criticize people's choices only based on the result. No one expected no suspension.
This was a very interesting read and definitely provides a good possible explanation for a lot of things.
Am I surprised there is no suspension? Yes. It looked bad at first glance. If I bought what was being portrayed by the media he would be out of the league for good. That is my point. Chill, let the facts roll in, let the sparkle of the news die down, and let common sense prevail. If you did that, and still wanted to sell, it would've been for more than what he was being sold for right after the news broke. The outlook on Hill's punishment continually improved throughout this entire ordeal. And funny enough, his previous incident in college might come across in a better light after all is said and done. Karma? Maybe. I'll wait for the facts.
I get that. But for every time waiting for the facts can increase a guy you're trying to sell's value, there's a situation where it can decrease it. The odds were against him, people played the odds. I can't really fault them for that. The shark move is usually to try to make the right call about a players situation before it happens. If a guy goes down and is scheduled for an MRI, and you get a sense that it is an ACL tear, then waiting for the facts might hurt you. We're all here trying to 'make the move before the others' so I don't always agree on waiting it out. In this case those who did prevailed though, yes.
It looked terrible at first glance. There wasn't much upside to sell once news broke. The best deals I saw were equivalent to 1st round value (rookie pick). I'll pass unless it was 1.01 or 1.02 (in SFlex) and wait to hear more before selling for nothing.
