SaintsInDome2006 47,463 Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 Needed this, thanks Reek. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DarkKnightsGuru 88 Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 Next game he should see more of his usual snaps ..yes he's back and looks 100 percent Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tombonneau 985 Posted October 14, 2019 Share Posted October 14, 2019 23 hours ago, tombonneau said: Oh great now your giving me second thoughts haha. I guess it's about minimizing regret. If Hill goes off I'd feel more a dope with him on my bench vs Brown. Because IMO Brown has more usage question marks. We have yet to see how McVay will divvy up touches sans Gurley. While I don't really believe much in Henderson you never know. Plus SF is a tough matchup. Hopefully they put Hill on ice one more week and it is moot. Aaaargh. This is why you should run your own team and go with your gut. Started Brown over Hill and it cost me the week. Only myself to blame. But dang I laid out my entire case about minimizing regret and here I am Monday morning with regret coming out of eyeballs. Will we ever learn? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rockaction 23,053 Posted October 14, 2019 Share Posted October 14, 2019 (edited) 7 minutes ago, tombonneau said: Aaaargh. This is why you should run your own team and go with your gut. Started Brown over Hill and it cost me the week. Only myself to blame. But dang I laid out my entire case about minimizing regret and here I am Monday morning with regret coming out of eyeballs. Will we ever learn? All my substitution possibilities or best balls in one of my leagues and I still would have lost by fifty, standard scoring, no bonuses, PPR, etc. So I've learned one thing: When you get your ### severely kicked by the auto-draft bot team in your league that the commish runs because some dude flaked on the league, you best be humble. And a touch angry with that guy, too. Edited October 14, 2019 by rockaction Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tombonneau 985 Posted October 14, 2019 Share Posted October 14, 2019 1 hour ago, rockaction said: All my substitution possibilities or best balls in one of my leagues and I still would have lost by fifty, standard scoring, no bonuses, PPR, etc. So I've learned one thing: When you get your ### severely kicked by the auto-draft bot team in your league that the commish runs because some dude flaked on the league, you best be humble. And a touch angry with that guy, too. Lol, thanks I at least feel better I didn't lose to a zombie team. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Frankman 3,301 Posted October 14, 2019 Share Posted October 14, 2019 (edited) Quote Tyreek Hill caught 5-of-10 targets for 80 yards and two touchdowns in Kansas City's Week 6 loss to the Texans. It was obvious Hill was healthy the moment Kansas City took the field as their first play went in his direction on a downfield fly route. Hill capped off the Chiefs' opening drive with a 46-yard catch between two defenders that took a valiant leap (and ensuing effort) on a free play that resulted in Kansas City going up 7-0. His second touchdown occurred on man-to-man coverage gone awry. With a team-high 10 targets under his belt in his first start since Week 1, it's clear Hill will be a lid-lifting matchup-proof WR1 in every game moving forward. Start him with confidence against the Broncos on Thursday. Edited October 14, 2019 by The Frankman Quote Link to post Share on other sites
packer_junkie 272 Posted October 14, 2019 Share Posted October 14, 2019 Got to be a top 5 WR moving forward I would think. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
flapgreen 5,913 Posted October 14, 2019 Share Posted October 14, 2019 Won my game Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hot Sauce Guy 8,910 Posted October 14, 2019 Share Posted October 14, 2019 He won me the week. Davonte Adams Can come back now please and thank you. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jamesinaz 47 Posted October 14, 2019 Share Posted October 14, 2019 Wondering if any of the other KC WRs are still worth keeping or playing with Hill back. I got Robinson and don't expect much from him going forward. Anyone else feel the same? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
irish eyes 1,234 Posted October 14, 2019 Share Posted October 14, 2019 2 hours ago, Jamesinaz said: Wondering if any of the other KC WRs are still worth keeping or playing with Hill back. I got Robinson and don't expect much from him going forward. Anyone else feel the same? He wasn't doing anything before hill got back. I am dumping him quickly. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SaintsInDome2006 47,463 Posted October 14, 2019 Share Posted October 14, 2019 Tremendous hops! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cap'n grunge 7,632 Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 So mad at myself for letting him go for a song when I thought he was done in the league during the off-season. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
iamkoza 506 Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 Just FYI, Denver currently gives up least fantasy points to WRs (in my scoring format at least) 2018 tyreek vs. denver 4 tar, 3 rec 70 yds 13 tar, 9 rec, 54 yds 2017 tyreek vs. denver 6 tar, 2 rec 38 yds (only pllayed against denver once this year) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Stompin' Tom Connors 4,242 Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 2 hours ago, iamkoza said: Just FYI, Denver currently gives up least fantasy points to WRs (in my scoring format at least) 2018 tyreek vs. denver 4 tar, 3 rec 70 yds 13 tar, 9 rec, 54 yds 2017 tyreek vs. denver 6 tar, 2 rec 38 yds (only pllayed against denver once this year) Chris Harris is a very good defensive back. Still starting Tyreek. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Stinkin Ref 1,297 Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 12 hours ago, cap'n grunge said: So mad at myself for letting him go for a song when I thought he was done in the league during the off-season. you weren't alone in making self righteous knee jerk snap judgments without really knowing the details...there are about 40 pages in this thread starting early in the spring when a bunch of people did the same thing...... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tombonneau 985 Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 40 minutes ago, Stinkin Ref said: you weren't alone in making self righteous knee jerk snap judgments without really knowing the details...there are about 40 pages in this thread starting early in the spring when a bunch of people did the same thing...... Happy to say I was one of the rational voices. Still bummed that a trade deal in my other dynasty league where a guy offered me Tyreek Hill for Matt Ryan + TY Hilton got pulled before I could accept. He must have sent it like 6 hours before the news broke that Hill would not be suspended and then yanked it. I would have still smash accepted though. Only problem was I was at my wedding and had my phone on silent. Marriage killing me before it even started .... 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
flapgreen 5,913 Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 Come on! Need a big game! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
smcindoe 118 Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 How do we feel without Mahomes in the picture? Feels like Hill loses the deep balls, but he's dangerous on screens and quick shots too, no? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nelly29 20 Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 He should try getting a target this game ugggggggggg Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gopher State 959 Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 7 minutes ago, smcindoe said: How do we feel without Mahomes in the picture? Feels like Hill loses the deep balls, but he's dangerous on screens and quick shots too, no? Nope, long night with Moore Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kodycutter 858 Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 This is a bummer. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
IheartGuinness 450 Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 I don't think he gets a single point, PPR or otherwise. He has zero value tonight. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
unckeyherb 1,428 Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 Yuck Quote Link to post Share on other sites
flapgreen 5,913 Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 Typical. I do this to every player I've ever had on my fantasy team. Without fail. I'll ruin them. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PigSkinMan 48 Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 If Mahomes is out next week this really blows. Means Tyreek would only been useful once in the first 8 weeks. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FreeBaGeL 8,819 Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 1 minute ago, PigSkinMan said: If Mahomes is out next week this really blows. Means Tyreek would only been useful once in the first 8 weeks. Based on early speculation I think we need to worry about a lot more than just next week for Mahomes. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tool 1,588 Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 1 minute ago, PigSkinMan said: If Mahomes is out next week this really blows. Means Tyreek would only been useful once in the first 8 weeks. If? Mahomes ain’t playing next week Quote Link to post Share on other sites
irish eyes 1,234 Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 3 minutes ago, PigSkinMan said: If Mahomes is out next week this really blows. Means Tyreek would only been useful once in the first 8 weeks. 1 minute ago, FreeBaGeL said: Based on early speculation I think we need to worry about a lot more than just next week for Mahomes. Um yeah, he's going to be out for quite a while. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
seahawk 17 628 Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 I have Hill in two leagues, going against Mahomes in both...still can't capitalize. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PigSkinMan 48 Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 2 minutes ago, irish eyes said: Um yeah, he's going to be out for quite a while. My bad, haven’t even seen the injury. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SaintsInDome2006 47,463 Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 Lol Yahtzee. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
smcindoe 118 Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 Huh. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
flapgreen 5,913 Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 LET'S GO BABY! NEVER IN DOUBT! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
flapgreen 5,913 Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 Not watching the game. How did it happen? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
steelwind 375 Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 Was a great downfield lob by Moore. Hill broke the tackle and took it to the house. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
smcindoe 118 Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 10 minutes ago, flapgreen said: Not watching the game. How did it happen? Not a deep bomb but also not a little screen. Hill cut across then wheeled it up field and Moore hit him right in stride. Was a sure thing TD as soon as he caught it, was in full stride. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
joffer 12,265 Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 not gonna lie....that helped 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FreeBaGeL 8,819 Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 Just now, smcindoe said: Not a deep bomb but also not a little screen. Hill cut across then wheeled it up field and Moore hit him right in stride. Was a sure thing TD as soon as he caught it, was in full stride. Hill was running a drag route. Play broke down and Hill turned it up field and Moore was on the same page and put the throw over the top perfectly. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
steelwind 375 Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 Just now, smcindoe said: Not a deep bomb but also not a little screen. Hill cut across then wheeled it up field and Moore hit him right in stride. Was a sure thing TD as soon as he caught it, was in full stride. Saw the play as it happened. If Moore and Hill have decent chemistry like the play showed then it’s not that dire. Obviously still a downgrade but not as bad as we thought. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SayWhat? 4,081 Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 18 minutes ago, steelwind said: Saw the play as it happened. If Moore and Hill have decent chemistry like the play showed then it’s not that dire. Obviously still a downgrade but not as bad as we thought. Let’s be real. It’s a massive downgrade, bordering on Juju-level of direness. 2 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Stompin' Tom Connors 4,242 Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 34 minutes ago, joffer said: not gonna lie....that helped Not just helped but possibly a weekend saver. A goose would have been dire. 13 minutes ago, SayWhat? said: Let’s be real. It’s a massive downgrade, bordering on Juju-level of direness. Let’s just say certain downgrade. What remains to be seen is how massive - if Hill’s talent supersedes the QB’s talent he may be serviceable, but not elite. We’ll see. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
steelwind 375 Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 17 minutes ago, SayWhat? said: Let’s be real. It’s a massive downgrade, bordering on Juju-level of direness. Moore is not a year 2 QB like Mason Rudolph. Juju is a WR3. Hill stays at least WR2 low end WR1. The offense is entirely different from Pitt. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Frankman 3,301 Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 (edited) Quote Tyreek Hill caught 3-of-5 targets for 74 yards and a touchdown in the Chiefs' Week 7 win over the Broncos. Hill saved what was shaping up to be a disastrous night with a 57-yard touchdown late in the third quarter. Sweeping across the field, Hill got a step on Chris Harris and was off to the races with his unrivaled speed. Hill entered halftime with zero targets and without his starting quarterback, as Patrick Mahomes limped to the locker room late in the second quarter. That he still made a big play with Matt Moore was an excellent sign for the Chiefs going forward. The early word on Mahomes' injury is positive, but there remains a real chance he is sidelined for Week 8 vs. the Packers and beyond. Without Mahomes, Hill would become a highly-volatile, low-end WR1. Edited October 18, 2019 by The Frankman Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nucker101 137 Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 (edited) So frustrating to see Mahomes go down just the 2nd week after Tyreek's return. Only hope now is that they trade for a gunslinger like Fitz or they start using Tyreek like the Vikes did with Percy Harvin otherwise you have to drop him out of stud WR1 range and more into the mid/low WR1 range. Edited October 18, 2019 by Nucker101 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mozzy84 967 Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 Stay healthy hill. He will still be better than anything we were starting in his place the last month. He can break good stuff all his own. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Penguin 1,158 Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 Hill's value with Moore at QB will be around WR 25-30. Early reports on Mahomes are a minimum of 4 weeks to the entire season. Dislocated nee cap, MRI on Friday will confirm any ligament damage. Some sports doctors are already saying if he elects against surgery now he will have to have surgery in the offseason Quote Link to post Share on other sites
travdogg 2,998 Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 3 hours ago, Penguin said: Hill's value with Moore at QB will be around WR 25-30. Early reports on Mahomes are a minimum of 4 weeks to the entire season. Dislocated nee cap, MRI on Friday will confirm any ligament damage. Some sports doctors are already saying if he elects against surgery now he will have to have surgery in the offseason WR 25-30 sounds really low to me. I’d say 10-15 range. They could also manufacture touches in the screen and running game for Hill. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
habsfan 421 Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 For those with their toes on the ledge, just a gentle reminder that he was putting up a donut in the first half with Mahomes. It's certainly a downgrade for Hill from a fully healthy Mahomes but we already didn't have that going into last night. It's a cliche to say he only needs one play but it also happens to be true. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hankmoody 3,739 Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 9 hours ago, SayWhat? said: Let’s be real. It’s a massive downgrade, bordering on Juju-level of direness. Yep. I'll be trading him immediately once a Mahomes timeline is firmed up as out for the season. Hill still holds long-term value to a rebuilder so I'll get very close to full price, but I'm not going to go through the 2019 roller coaster when I can get much more consistent production elsewhere. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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