Long Ball Larry Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 (edited) Feeling a little under the weather? Take all the time you need. The Sons of Sam will be waiting. Edited August 31, 2020 by Long Ball Larry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eephus Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 The Embiid/Okafor/Noel logjam is fascinating. After all the roster and draft machinations over the years, they end up with three incompatible pieces during a bear market for their skillsets. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Notorious T.R.E. Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 24 minutes ago, Eephus said: The Embiid/Okafor/Noel logjam is fascinating. After all the roster and draft machinations over the years, they end up with three incompatible pieces during a bear market for their skillsets. Think there's a decent chance Saric/Embiid are the best options at the 4/5 and then they'll be stuck with Okafor/Noel and either play them as backups or sell them on the cheap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eephus Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 Noel seems like he has a more marketable skillset but his contract is expiring and won't bring much in return this year. Okafor has a couple of reasonable (by current NBA standards) team options but needs to be able to defend better to warrant starter's minutes in Philadelphia or anywhere else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy3469 Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 17 minutes ago, Eephus said: Noel seems like he has a more marketable skillset but his contract is expiring and won't bring much in return this year. Okafor has a couple of reasonable (by current NBA standards) team options but needs to be able to defend better to warrant starter's minutes in Philadelphia or anywhere else. He'll bring something if the team they'd deal him to wants to give him an extension and/or wants his RFA rights. What they get for him is another matter entirely. 49 minutes ago, Notorious T.R.E. said: Think there's a decent chance Saric/Embiid are the best options at the 4/5 and then they'll be stuck with Okafor/Noel and either play them as backups or sell them on the cheap. Simmons/Embiid is ideally 4/5 you'd want for today's NBA with Okafor in the 2nd unit where his defensive liability isn't as important, but feet matter. In any case, I think Noel is the odd man out and I'd deal him pretty quickly for young wing help if there was a trade partner...the caveat being is I have no idea who would want him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thecatch Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 Who could/would Okafor start for in the league? Celtics or the Knicks maybe? I'd love to see the Cavs get a low post guy that could punish GS in the middle. Otherwise it's tough to see a fit. It's his rebounding that worries me almost as much as his defense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eephus Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 I don't think I even saw the 76ers last year but thought Okafor looked good while at Duke. Who's a good comp for Okafor? A poor man's Al Jefferson? Greg Monroe with lesser passing and rebounding skills? A bigger Big Baby? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thecatch Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 7 minutes ago, Eephus said: I don't think I even saw the 76ers last year but thought Okafor looked good while at Duke. Who's a good comp for Okafor? A poor man's Al Jefferson? Greg Monroe with lesser passing and rebounding skills? A bigger Big Baby? Maybe a much poorer rebounding version of Kanter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eephus Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 1 minute ago, thecatch said: Maybe a much poorer rebounding version of Kanter. Kanter is a pretty good finisher off the pick & roll. Of course it's probably better to have Westbrook with the ball than Ish Smith. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thecatch Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 3 minutes ago, Eephus said: Kanter is a pretty good finisher off the pick & roll. Of course it's probably better to have Westbrook with the ball than Ish Smith. Kanter's true shooting % skyrocketed after he got to OKC. Okafor's efficiency is quite remarkable given what he was working with last year, as you note. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy3469 Posted October 21, 2016 Share Posted October 21, 2016 22 hours ago, thecatch said: Who could/would Okafor start for in the league? Celtics or the Knicks maybe? I'd love to see the Cavs get a low post guy that could punish GS in the middle. Otherwise it's tough to see a fit. It's his rebounding that worries me almost as much as his defense. If you're talking about starting today...no one. He's a face-up, back to the basket (if that makes any sense...he basically has any post move you want and can take most any 5 off the dribble as well assuming there is no help) 5 that needs to work on his PnR offense, defense, and rebounding. That simply isn't a starting center for a good team in todays game. It's a real good first big off the bench like Kanter (different strengths on offense, but both have the ability to carry a second team offensively). I do think a year or two from now as he continues to refine his offensive game for the NBA and if he improves his defense/rebounding to passable (he has quick enough feet that he should be able to improve some) Put it this way, he'll get bought or signed for 60 cents on the dollar by some smart team in 3 years that has the proper spacing and we'll wonder how he became so good. There is All-Star level offensive C talent there, it'll just take the right team with the right offensive spacing to exploit it and good enough wing defenders to absorb his defense. He will demand a double team in the near future and even today that's a very valuable asset. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy3469 Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 Fwiw...this is what I meant by "face-up". https://twitter.com/sixers/status/789617268867076097 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thecatch Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 53 minutes ago, Sammy3469 said: Fwiw...this is what I meant by "face-up". https://twitter.com/sixers/status/789617268867076097 Nice spin, but in fairness that was some serious preseason defensive effort there. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modogg Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 I freakin' love this thread Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chemical X Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 I have been speculating Richaun Holmes...........thoughts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Notorious T.R.E. Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 On 10/21/2016 at 9:55 PM, thecatch said: Nice spin, but in fairness that was some serious preseason defensive effort there. That's elite-defender-Hassan-Whiteside, thank you very much. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Notorious T.R.E. Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 On 10/22/2016 at 4:12 PM, Chemical X said: I have been speculating Richaun Holmes...........thoughts? Practice stats count? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Notorious T.R.E. Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 Pablo S. Torre @PabloTorre 16h16 hours ago Embiid is yelling HE CAN'T GUARD ME at Steven Adams and the crowd is chanting TRUST THE PROCESS and I am maniacally laughing 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy3469 Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 Sergio's beard is breathtaking. For a night the 76ers were fun again. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy3469 Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 STAUSKAS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111111111 Quote As expected, #Sixers pick up Jahlil Okafor's third-year option and the fourth-year options of Nik Stauskas and Joel Embiid 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Notorious T.R.E. Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 7 minutes ago, Sammy3469 said: STAUSKAS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111111111 SAUCE CASTILLO!!!!111 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thecatch Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 1 hour ago, Sammy3469 said: Sergio's beard is breathtaking. For a night the 76ers were fun again. I came away impressed with Saric's hair as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy3469 Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 Did we know Embiid has given himself the nickname...THE PROCESS? I feel this is something I should have known already, so I'm feeling a little dopey for not knowing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Notorious T.R.E. Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 4 hours ago, Sammy3469 said: Did we know Embiid has given himself the nickname...THE PROCESS? I feel this is something I should have known already, so I'm feeling a little dopey for not knowing. You should. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Long Ball Larry Posted November 1, 2016 Author Share Posted November 1, 2016 Sixers selected Benito Santiago Jr. in the D-League draft. Hell yeah. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Long Ball Larry Posted November 1, 2016 Author Share Posted November 1, 2016 On 10/22/2016 at 5:12 PM, Chemical X said: I have been speculating Richaun Holmes...........thoughts? He is a good defender and with Noel not being extended, theoretically the Sixers might gamble on Embiid staying healthy and pairing Embiid and Holmes as a more natural fit (at least some of the time) and then use okafor as more of a scorer earlier in games and less in crunch time. I think Nate Duncan mentioned something like this in passing last week. I don't know if okafor's defensive problems are partly due to a lack of core agility, but he really seems like he just completely falls asleep on defense sometimes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Notorious T.R.E. Posted November 1, 2016 Share Posted November 1, 2016 13 hours ago, Long Ball Larry said: Sixers selected Benito Santiago Jr. in the D-League draft. Hell yeah. Did quite a bit of Santiago Jr. research yesterday. 6'5" 213 PF from Cumberlands? :0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eephus Posted November 1, 2016 Share Posted November 1, 2016 14 hours ago, Long Ball Larry said: Sixers selected Benito Santiago Jr. in the D-League draft. Hell yeah. Plenty of talent available 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Long Ball Larry Posted November 1, 2016 Author Share Posted November 1, 2016 1 hour ago, Notorious T.R.E. said: Did quite a bit of Santiago Jr. research yesterday. 6'5" 213 PF from Cumberlands? :0 Go Patriots! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kraft... Posted November 1, 2016 Share Posted November 1, 2016 Traded Jerami Grant to OKC. I kind of like him as a player. If he can get his shooting efficiency figured out he can contribute. Just to many bigs I guess, Ilyasova looks like a better fit(short term anyway). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eephus Posted November 1, 2016 Share Posted November 1, 2016 Ilyasova appeared in 453 games with Milwaukee, 52 with Detroit, 22 with Orlando and 3 with Oklahoma City. There's a radioactive decay equation that can be used to project the rest of his NBA career. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EshInPennsyltucky Posted November 5, 2016 Share Posted November 5, 2016 On 10/27/2016 at 4:32 PM, thecatch said: I came away impressed with Saric's hair as well. That's one bad haircut he's got up top there. Somebody gotta get him down to one of the crop shops on Passyunk. I'm more concerned about him acclimatizing to the NBA from Euro-ball. I keep seeing him look at his feet before he shoots, as if he's checking where he is on the floor. It's gotta be slowing down his shot, if not throwing it off altogether. Anybody ever seen him do that in Turkey or FIBA? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Long Ball Larry Posted November 6, 2016 Author Share Posted November 6, 2016 On 11/5/2016 at 9:20 AM, EshInPennsyltucky said: That's one bad haircut he's got up top there. Somebody gotta get him down to one of the crop shops on Passyunk. I'm more concerned about him acclimatizing to the NBA from Euro-ball. I keep seeing him look at his feet before he shoots, as if he's checking where he is on the floor. It's gotta be slowing down his shot, if not throwing it off altogether. Anybody ever seen him do that in Turkey or FIBA? Who is this now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Long Ball Larry Posted November 12, 2016 Author Share Posted November 12, 2016 Brett Brown looking confused. Embiid a beast among men, 25 and 7 in 26 minutes. And yet still so raw and mistake-prone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EshInPennsyltucky Posted November 12, 2016 Share Posted November 12, 2016 (edited) On 11/6/2016 at 5:13 PM, Long Ball Larry said: Who is this now? Šarić. Google images has his 'do looking better off-court than on. But apparently, it's his thing. Anadolu Efes Nice to see a win. Nice to see they didn't blow another late game opportunity. Nice to see the Process at work. Edited November 12, 2016 by EshInPennsyltucky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bogart Posted November 14, 2016 Share Posted November 14, 2016 Best title in the forum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Long Ball Larry Posted November 19, 2016 Author Share Posted November 19, 2016 On 11/12/2016 at 9:04 AM, EshInPennsyltucky said: Šarić. Google images has his 'do looking better off-court than on. But apparently, it's his thing. Anadolu Efes Nice to see a win. Nice to see they didn't blow another late game opportunity. Nice to see the Process at work. I think I was actually referring to you, as you were a new user. Perhaps the first true hoopsguys user. :$wheatpennies$: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushdocda Posted November 19, 2016 Share Posted November 19, 2016 Welcome to the future! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modogg Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 On 10/31/2016 at 9:21 PM, Long Ball Larry said: He is a good defender and with Noel not being extended, theoretically the Sixers might gamble on Embiid staying healthy and pairing Embiid and Holmes as a more natural fit (at least some of the time) and then use okafor as more of a scorer earlier in games and less in crunch time. I think Nate Duncan mentioned something like this in passing last week. I don't know if okafor's defensive problems are partly due to a lack of core agility, but he really seems like he just completely falls asleep on defense sometimes. it's almost fascinating to see how bad Okafor can be on defense. the guy has been coached for the NBA for awhile, and he just seems to have almost no desire to play D. Thein me would almost think he is doing it on purpose. and I am excited for Noel to get on the court with Embiid. if they can work well together i'm not sure any team can score on them in the paint reliably Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thecatch Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 6 hours ago, modogg said: and I am excited for Noel to get on the court with Embiid. if they can work well together i'm not sure any team can score on them in the paint reliably If the other team goes small, they won't have to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Long Ball Larry Posted December 1, 2016 Author Share Posted December 1, 2016 Kings' players sweating with fear render court unplayable. SMH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thecatch Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 32 minutes ago, Long Ball Larry said: Kings' players sweating with fear render court unplayable. SMH @sacramentokings Tonight's game has been postponed... y'all can trust the process but not the floor? Smh, @Sixers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobus Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 Only the second worst record in the league. #trusttheprocess Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Long Ball Larry Posted December 2, 2016 Author Share Posted December 2, 2016 Damone Brown 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insein Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 Who's never noticed this forum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modogg Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 On 12/20/2016 at 7:52 PM, Insein said: Who's never noticed this forum. better yet, i notice it, but it takes me 2-3 weeks to find it again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modogg Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 Man, why in the world does the mgmt and everyone else want to trade Noel and keep Okafor. Every game i watch it is clear as crystal. I know management will likely have to accept less then they want for a trade, but i think they have to make a move at some point. I guess there is no rush since they aren't going to go anywhere, but i can't see this going on for the rest of the year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insein Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 3 hours ago, modogg said: Man, why in the world does the mgmt and everyone else want to trade Noel and keep Okafor. Every game i watch it is clear as crystal. I know management will likely have to accept less then they want for a trade, but i think they have to make a move at some point. I guess there is no rush since they aren't going to go anywhere, but i can't see this going on for the rest of the year I think a move will be made. Just wish Hinkie was here. He'd probably already have made the move and set us up with several #1's or a guard by now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Long Ball Larry Posted December 30, 2016 Author Share Posted December 30, 2016 11 hours ago, modogg said: Man, why in the world does the mgmt and everyone else want to trade Noel and keep Okafor. Every game i watch it is clear as crystal. I know management will likely have to accept less then they want for a trade, but i think they have to make a move at some point. I guess there is no rush since they aren't going to go anywhere, but i can't see this going on for the rest of the year I have heard speculation that they are trying to showcase Okafor more in order to get a bite. Also, Noel's contract situation is a problem. Are you ready to pay him 80 million or more? I also don't think they were happy with him getting that surgery. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modogg Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 4 hours ago, Long Ball Larry said: I have heard speculation that they are trying to showcase Okafor more in order to get a bite. Also, Noel's contract situation is a problem. Are you ready to pay him 80 million or more? I also don't think they were happy with him getting that surgery. well that makes me more hopeful, the only problem is the showcasing of Okafor is going to decrease his value. Agreed with the tricky situation with Noel's contract, but who knows what he will ask for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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