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Why, exactly would you want to make a big trade? If anything the Bears should be unloading players. They are not a team making a playoff push. They are last in their division, on their way to a five win season. They won’t say they are out of the race, but anyone with three brain cells to rub together can see that they are out of the race. They should looking to trade veterans, or soon to be free agents.
They should send one (or both) of their TEs to New England and dump Floyd to some team that loves players like him (like Seattle or Cleveland). I agree, they should be selling and using the rest of this year eating humble pie and learning from their mistakes and trying to salvage Mitch because, love him or hate him, that's a significant investment to lose out on at this point.
Because that's not how anyone involved with the team thinks right now. Imo Pace will make a move to keep his job.
I think that Nagy did a good job last year hiding Trubisky’s flaws. And they are many. He doesn’t read defenses well. He doesn’t go through progressions. He locks on to receivers. He processes what he sees on the field slowly, so he is slow making decisions. He is not an accurate passer, particularly when throwing the deep ball. And he consistently throws in to coverage.
Pace will probably have a job for at least two more years, after this season. He is signed through 2021. Look how long the Bears held on to Fox when they should have gotten rid of him because they refused to eat years of his contract. I think they finally fired him with one year left. They will probably let Pace finish out his contract.
It seems like most of the things you listed there are things that we would think are great that the coach recognized and made those kind of arrangements for to help his young player if the coach did that. And these are things that I would expect from a 2nd year QB and are the major growing areas.
Bears ownership seems clueless enough to let a most likely lame duck GM make a bunch of short-term moves too.
Sports Illustrated predicts Bears will finish last in NFC North in 2019
Bwaahahaahha
The Bears are not convinced that Trubisky isn’t the franchise QB they thought they were getting. They may move to bring in a veteran after the season, but they aren’t doing anything during this season. And they will give Mitch every opportunity to prove himself.
I see this being stated around the place and I don't really understand it. What has he done to make Trubisky look better? If you're talking about limiting the playbook because Trubisky is too limited to execute everything properly, well I'm not sure how we would know this. From what I see, Trubisky actually needs to have things opened up more. He's lacking confidence and is shell-shocked at the moment. I believe that being in this Nagy offense is actually really limiting and not playing to his strengths (yes, he does have some, despite everyone apparently agreeing he's the worst QB to ever walk the face of the earth). How do we know Nagy's not making Trubisky look worse than he is or that he isn't mishandling him?
I don't understand this. He's barely used Cohen at all in any creative way, let alone made him a main back (I'm not talking about the past week when clearly Montgomery got fed big time). It's possible he's been passing too much (that one game a couple of weeks ago was silly) but 'conservative' doesn't just equate to running the ball. I think he's conservative in the way he designs his passing offense too. Most of the passing is short and rarely tests the defense in any way. There is no cohesion at all.
A bridge to what? The Bears don’t have a first next year, and they probably won’t use one of their seconds on a QB. If you get Dalton you are officially giving up on Trubisky. I think Dalton is better than Trubisky, but if he is going to be anything he has to play.
disagree.
Dalton is a solid qb when he has a good team around him. I'm talking about a mid to late round pick for him, which is unlikely. Mitch is finished. Bridge to the next pick and grow him. No first round pick next year
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Didn't say I wanted him bad. But this team has been built around Trubisky succeeding. Now that we know that's not happening, the team is years away from being a contender again. No money. Very little draft capital. Would've given a later round pick for Dalton, but that wasn't going to happen anyway.
It's smart by Nagy isn't it? He knows that the pitchforks are out for Trubisky and if/when he continues to fail, everyone just says Mitch is the problem and moves on. Nagy keeps his job because there's nothing he could have done with Trubisky. If they change QBs and the suckage continues, then Nagy is more in the spotlight and his job is at risk - I'm talking about national media here, since it seems that Nagy is pretty much still seen as a golden boy hire outside of Chicago.
Since I've been watching Mitch I've used Dalton as a comparison for his ceiling. I was wrong. I wish Dalton was his ceiling.
What I see more than mechanics is that he's not seeing the field. Guys are getting open consistently and he just never sees them. Then when his first read is actually open, he STILL misses them consistently. He just sucks. Panics. Guy needs to see a sports psychologist or something.
That is the perennial plan, but every time they open up the playbook, Mitch just looks completely lost. The only times he has ever looked consistently good is either running the ball frequently (which gets him hurt) and/or putting him in a fast pace where he's doing single reads. The problem with that is that everybody in the league now knows those are what he can do, and its really not hard to scheme against that. Bottom line the league caught up.
Doesn't make sense to give up a single draft pick, even late, to try and salvage this season. Let Mitch play out and make sure some light doesn't go on in his head, then bring in competition in the offseason. Dalton will likely be cut after this season and can be one of our options for a second QB to put pressure to start. We are cash strapped next year too, so we don't want Dalton's 17M contract. Let Cin do the cutting for us, and then we can sign him straight out if he is their choice.flapgreen said:
I forgot about that. If they sign a free-agent quarterback they will have to get creative with the cap. The draft might be the best way to develop someone. Let Nagy help with the interviewing/evaluating.
As much as it sucks to say, Mitch will probably be playing all or most of next season... I think Pace (and maybe Nagy) will be stubborn enough to roll with Mitch to really "make sure" he isn't the guy, so to speak. And depending on what happens, Mitch may be benched mid-season (ala Mariota this year). You can maybe re-sign Chase Daniel, and there are other options like Mariota, Winston, Tannehill, Fitzpatrick, Bridgewater, Keenum, McCoy, Siemian, etc.
He did. He's played a couple of the best playoff games I've ever seen from a QB. With SF against NO and with KC against Indy.
I think he is on PUP and the slurs would need to make a roster decision if he came back?
absolutely. I think Pace tries to be too perfect, like he put all of his chips in. Everything kind of hinged on Mack trade + Trubisky panning out. And in hindsight, that's not really how you build a team in the long run. Oh well. I personally don't think the team is going anywhere with Pace in charge. Good eye for talent, but not necessarily a good GM.
He's a very good GM and has built a great roster. He just missed on the qb. Look at the Chiefs or the Eagles last few drafts. One terrible draft after another. Just hit on their qb and it covered a multitude of flaws. Pace has hit on multiple picks and built almost the entire team through the draft. I still have great faith in Pace to build a great roster, but he's going to have to reevaluate how he picks a qb, or he's finished. Glennon and Trubisky aren't going to cut it.
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