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I didn't see ANYONE suggest getting rid of White, that obviously won't happen. I think all Flap said was we can't count on him for anything at this point and I 100% agree. All we can do is HOPE he can stay healthy, still has the athletic talent he was drafted for after two season long injuries, and as he was a developmental project when we took him, that in the remaining year or two we have with him that he has the time to develop so we can decide what to do with him next.
You're right. I misread it and thought it said he would replace Alshon and White but he meant replace Alshon WITH White. This makes much more sense.
My guess is we get a mid/late round tackle somewhere in this draft as a project and that's about it. There may be a couple "better" tackles available in FA, but probably few if any that will be rock solid long term starters. I still think we really messed up last year when we pursued Massie over Schwartz. For only a little bit more money we could have had that position locked down for 4+ years.
Agree with the ol part. Hawkeye, along with some others, think we're fine at ol. We most definitely are not IMO. The tackles played at an average level over the last half of the season. That doesn't mean we're fine there. Our tackles blow ###. We need 2 more. They're none really available worth a damn in FA, so we will have to draft some. I think we can do a lot of good with the secondary in FA. If we can get Garoppolo for a second, I say we go for it. Do not give up 3rd pick for him.
You just keep posting your opinion on the OL. Look at the facts, they were above average this year. I know Massie and Leno are not above average OTs but they are very serviceable. They were able to get the job done and the interior line was one of the best units in the NFL. As a whole they were actually pretty good. Bring a guy in that can challenge for a starting T position and add some depth and you've got yourself a top 10 OL.
I don't blame management if they let him walk. Jeffrey has done almost NOTHING to lead this team. He is not a hard worker, which is a real problem, and he can't stay on the field because he is soft.flapgreen said:
You don't think management ever makes a mistake. I believe you. Their record speaks for itself.
The ticket prices really are not an issue. Season ticket holders are not going to give up their tickets due to a 2% increase. It's like $5 a game or something like that. Losing will have more of an affect on ticket prices.
Management is responsible for allowing the team to be in the position it's in. I'm not saying that all these moves shouldn't have been made but when you look at what they've done in the last two years they have moved on from Marshall, Bennett, Forte, Slauson, Cutler and most likely Jeffery. That's a lot of production just gone and did they have anyone to replace all that production? They did manage to get lucky with Sitton and Howard so far but what about the rest?
Durkin has it just right.
Basically QB and WR are now absolute needs. TE is a lower priority need. The RB position is the only solid spot on the offense with the OL being the next best unit.
I think most Bears fans always being sold on potential every year are just over it. Anything Pace or George says is just disingenuous at this point.
I think most Bears fans always being sold on potential every year are just over it. Anything Pace or George says is just disingenuous at this point.
I'd put TE right up there with the rest. Can't depend on Miller. Basically, we need a bunch of stuff.
I still believe Pace though. Pace's job depends on it. George can say whatever because it doesn't affect his future.
Not sure I'd agree with this. A true complete TE can have a large effect on the pass game being both a target and blocker and in the run game as a blocker at the line. Can really make a difference. This is supposedly one of the better years for TE in the draft and I was honestly hoping we'd be able to spend our 2nd round pick on one and hopefully have that 8+ year player there we haven't had in a long time.
I would love getting a difference making TE in the draft this year but I haven't heard much to make me think they are going to do it. Every mock draft and comments from Bears reporters make it look like TE is a lower priority this year. Not saying I agree with it but I'm not sure they make any major moves at that position this off season.
And I'll admit I have NO f-ing good idea on how to deal with QB... I don't like any of the options, drafting one at the #3 pick, trading that #3 pick to draft one later or for a player, none of the FA's out there look like the "answer" to me.
I'd say go hard at Jefferson and Bouye/Gilmore.flapgreen said:
It's the right move. WRs don't win championships and Alshon hasn't been able to stay on the field. No brainer.
I guess I had just a little hope they would make an obvious decision. So yeah, I was wrong. Congratulations. Sure wasn't the first time I've been wrong and won't be the last.
TE is right up there with the top needs. Don't expect Bears to recognize this, though.
So if a big name safety is headed to free agency from a team with a lot of cap space, the team shouldn't keep them because safeties don't win championships? That's not an argument to let the most talented player on your team walk when you're way under the cap.
