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I am with you on this. They don't have the luxury to reach for a first round QB project because based on most reports, that's what the QB's being discussed at #3 are at this point. I am good with a second round project though if somehow one of them falls.
What if Kizer were to fall to the 2nd? Not a strong combine and questionable decision making could scare a few teams.
Who said there are no qbs worth a first round pick, except people writing articles? The organizations aren't saying this stuff. None of us can say it's reaching if those guys get drafted there. Getting a long-term starter at qb from round 3-5 is 1 out of 100 proposition. That's why this team has been a failure for so many decades. It's a loser mentality. Wait and hope we get lucky. Glennon isn't a long-term starter. That's why it's essentially a 1 year deal. There's a reason very few good qbs are taken outside of the first round. It's because they rarely amount to anything. Waiting until later this year will be just another loser move in an organization that's made an endless amount of them over their history. Joke of the league now.
That is never going to happen. None of the top 3 are falling to the second, and waiting for them to do so would be a horrible strategy
i wouldn't touch Kizer in R1. I would give him a hard look late in R2, however. as far as the Bears now being good at developing QBs, I'm not sure if that is true for this regime. Fox and Loggains have been dealing with Cutler, Barkley, etc. We don't know what they're capable of.
The "reports" are garbage. Change because change if you need a qb? That doesn't even make any sense. Team is at the bottom of the league and desperately need a star qb. Waiting until the second will produce nothing but more years of failure or mediocrity at best.
Then so be it. Don't draft a QB at #3. Jimmy G and probably Cousins will be available next year.
Good thing you're not a GM. He will be long gone by round 2 and the rest of the GMs would be laughing at you thinking he would fall there
You're not a qb evaluator. Neither am I. If Pace likes one of these guys and doesn't take him because of Glennon, that's an awful mistake. That's what I'm saying. And it wouldn't surprise me if that happened. Everyone knows Glennon. Some good things. A lot of limitations. Been on the bench 2 years. If Pace bets his job on Glennon, he'll end up jobless.
At this ####### clown calling out others about being a GM.
i wouldn't expect him to be there in R2. let other teams let their desperation drive their decsionmaking. the bears have too many holes to fill to act in desperation. this is especially the case when premium free agents aren't even going to come around. that means you are beholden to building through the draft and where you've some success under Pace. your QB position is stable for now. get that QB that has potential but comes from one of those garbage spread offenses. let him learn. or wait until next year when there is a new batch of QBs in the FA market. or the bumper crop of quality QB in the draft.
You haven't been paying attention if you haven't seen most of these contracts are all being set up to make it easy to get out of early. You can basically be taking a lot of these guys who are better players than what you currently have for one year flyers, see what happens.
And most are incentive laden. Are free agents really going to roll the dice on hitting those on this team? With Glennon???
Gilmore basically knew he was going to get paid, I think if there was a choice between Chicago and NE, he knew where he was going.
You have no idea what Pryor would've done if we offered a nice multi year deal. He didn't take the Browns offer because he wanted to see what he could get in FA. As far as I'm concerned he proved he's legit last year and will only get better. No reason we couldn't give him a multi year, front loaded deal.
You make good points. Perhaps Pace was concerned Pryor turns 28 in June, who knows.
One of the only people I've seen who tried to justify the last 2 days as a good thing. Literally no one out there thinks the Bears did well. It was a complete disaster. Incompetence at the highest level. Pace got owned and has no way to look like anything but a lying fool now.
Please don't speak for everyone. There may be others that are ok with the direction of the last two days, but don't feel like posting it here to ignite another one of your rants.
Stop. Nobody that cares about this team can justify being ok with the last two days. That's just dumb.
Have you actually seen the deal Jeffery got? It's a complete steal for the Eagles. Only have one year to "worry" about him. It's not a full guaranteed $14M and a decent amount is incentive based. Basically Jeffery is betting on himself to play well and get a huge deal after this year.Limp Ditka said:
flapgreen said:
Why aren't you guys GM's and coaches? You must have great jobs, with great salaries. It's so simple to sit behind keyboard and question what you don't understand. I'm sure everyone thought Cutler was going to lead us to a Super Bowl (he got close), but now people can't wait for him to get out of town. Why? Did something change? If a player can change for the worse, why can't he change for the better. Why can't Mike Glennon perform at a high level with the Bears? Compared to the qb prospects in the draft, he has more (all be it limited) NFL starts under his belt. There have been dozens of QB's taken in the early rounds that have turned out to be busts. And this year doesn't have a great crop of QB's.RBM said:
I'm assuming Pace is making the best decisions that he can. Time will tell if his decisions will make this team better. But, there are no guarantees in this league, regardless of who your GM is.
and thank you, I'm criticizing the bears right now. I think they deserve it at this point.
Here is Bennett's new deal.
I generally feel the way you do about this but you have to admit that just because these guys are the professionals that get paid to do it doesn't mean they are any good at it. Just look at how the Browns organization has been run over the years. Who's to say that any of us couldn't do as well or better if given the chance? Some people that are in power on some teams are there because of who they know, not what they know. I know I wouldn't be a good GM but there are times when I know when a team is making a mistake.
yeah, pretty much what I said. Any thoughts on it? You gotta admit you'd rather have a player of benett's level, and wow, very little difference in price.
There a lot of factors that play into a winning team. I just think it's naive to say that any of us could do a better job. This is a multi billion dollar business. Pace may have pressure from the top telling him how much he can spend. I don't know. I do know that constantly complaining about something that is supposed to add joy to your life is counter productive. Case in point, Flap has changed the title of the thread. There's no sense even rooting for this team now. Might as well start watching WNBA.
I completely agree with the constant complaining. It gets old. It's been a pretty rough stretch for being a Bear's fan lately though. Just looking on social media it seems pretty wide spread that Bear's fans and even reporters are not impressed and even confused at what the Bears are doing right now. All we can do is wait and see what kind of team they put together. I can tell you this, it's going to be a team unlike any we have seen in a very long time. Not many familiar faces any more.
Get outta here. Fans have been #####ing about sucky teams forever and will continue to do so. Just one of those thing that come with caring. If you don't care that much congrats, but don't tell other people how much they should. Its called passion, some people have some when it comes to their favorite sports team.
