flapgreen Posted December 15, 2019 Author Share Posted December 15, 2019 I'm done with Mitch. He had his last few games to show me what he had. Finished Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flapgreen Posted December 15, 2019 Author Share Posted December 15, 2019 Briggs gets it. https://www.nbcsports.com/chicago/bears/lance-briggs-bears-defensive-mistakes-were-embarrassing?amp&__twitter_impression=true Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lod001 Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 Everyting is fine because Miller is finally getting his. Lets not upset that apple cart for next year. It's more important for the LOD to win fantasy game s than the bears win NFl games. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-X- Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 Cowboys doing their part but the Vikings are destroying the Chargers, so we gone. How ironic Piñeiro’s FG miss vs. SD was. Time to hibernate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flapgreen Posted December 16, 2019 Author Share Posted December 16, 2019 36 minutes ago, -X- said: Cowboys doing their part but the Vikings are destroying the Chargers, so we gone. How ironic Piñeiro’s FG miss vs. SD was. Time to hibernate. Same as any other year. Bears are a perennial failure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flapgreen Posted December 16, 2019 Author Share Posted December 16, 2019 On 12/8/2019 at 1:40 PM, flapgreen said: I hate that this team has made me think they have a shot at the playoffs. I'm such a sucker ever believing in this team when I know what they're going to do. Embarrass themselves every time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Pack Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 7 hours ago, RBM said: Thanks for playing Khalil. Did he play today? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flapgreen Posted December 16, 2019 Author Share Posted December 16, 2019 18 minutes ago, Mr.Pack said: Did he play today? I think he played one play. Floyd also played one play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flapgreen Posted December 16, 2019 Author Share Posted December 16, 2019 (edited) Leonard Floyd had 2 sacks in the first game against Green Bay. None in the 13 games since. No way I pay this guy good money next year. Edited December 16, 2019 by flapgreen 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flapgreen Posted December 18, 2019 Author Share Posted December 18, 2019 Eddie, Mack, and Patterson made the pro bowl. No idea how Eddie made it. Doesn't belong there. I guess Mack deserved it, but he didn't come close to earning his contract. Arob got robbed. Guy was amazing this year. Somehow, Cohen made it as an alternate. He was awful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flapgreen Posted December 23, 2019 Author Share Posted December 23, 2019 Don't give a damn what they do tonight. Won't watch this garbage team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flapgreen Posted December 23, 2019 Author Share Posted December 23, 2019 Good job, quitters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Widbil83 Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 This offense is worse than the last year of Fox and Loggains with a ton less talent. Just embarrassing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RBM Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 (edited) Gross effort tonight. No surprise. Bunch of gutless wimps. That’s a direct reflection of the coach. I’ve had it with this Nagy. Edited December 23, 2019 by RBM 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flapgreen Posted December 23, 2019 Author Share Posted December 23, 2019 11 minutes ago, RBM said: Gross effort tonight. No surprise. Bunch of gutless wimps. That’s a direct reflection of the coach. I’ve had it with this Nagy. Nagy will be back. Mitch will be on the bench next year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flapgreen Posted December 23, 2019 Author Share Posted December 23, 2019 Hoping Alex Smith is healthy or they go after Bridgewater or the like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RBM Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 7 minutes ago, flapgreen said: Hoping Alex Smith is healthy or they go after Bridgewater or the like. Just hope they beef up the right side or the line. Need 2 ### kickers over there. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twistd Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 (edited) I intensely dislike this team. I like ARob and maybe Hicks. Most of the rest of the team is a disappointment. It is hard to root for a team you so intensely dislike. The offense really has no identity. Probably won’t till they replace Trubisky. The line isn’t very good. The defense looks very good at times, but when the game is on the line, they wilt. Edited December 23, 2019 by twistd 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flapgreen Posted December 23, 2019 Author Share Posted December 23, 2019 I saw Nagy try a lot of different things tonight. Mitch just can't do any of them. He's terrible. Change coming at qb. On the bright side, they now know Mitch isn't the guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flapgreen Posted December 23, 2019 Author Share Posted December 23, 2019 Hard to ever believe in this franchise again. They are destined for multiple generations of failure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flapgreen Posted December 23, 2019 Author Share Posted December 23, 2019 (edited) That may have been the worst game of Trubisky's career last night. Couldn't run the most basic of plays. Wrong read numerous times. Horribly inaccurate. This guy is as good as gone. Top 10 all-time bust. Edited December 23, 2019 by flapgreen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ditkaless Wonders Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 8 hours ago, flapgreen said: Hard to ever believe in this franchise again. They are destined for multiple generations of failure. Come next spring and summer you will be renewed, like the trees blossoming. It is your nature. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-X- Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 “The Bears offense always looks like some dude playing Madden two difficulty levels higher than his ability.” -Super 70s Sports Collinsworth trying to make Trub seem even close to Mahomes’ skill level was humorous. Nagy has this tendency to continue experimenting by force feeding plays that just don’t work. Case in point, in the game vs. DAL, Trub threw way more slants and short verticals with good success (TDs). Initial wish list: Two road grader right side O-linemen One speedy shutdown corner One pass rusher that can benefit from Mack getting double-teamed. A defensive HC that stops playing that soft shell garbage, plays man almost exclusively so the pass rush can get home more often. Especially on third down. It almost feels like we threw the season away on purpose, starting in London. Next season is obviously pivotal for Trub, Nagy & Pace. It will tell us whether or not last year was a fluke or this year was a fluke. Heavily leaning towards the former. Again, lose the “Be you” garbage. “Elevate your game in pressure moments” should be the message until further notice. Go Vikings & Chiefs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flapgreen Posted December 23, 2019 Author Share Posted December 23, 2019 19 minutes ago, -X- said: “The Bears offense always looks like some dude playing Madden two difficulty levels higher than his ability.” Perfect description Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flapgreen Posted December 23, 2019 Author Share Posted December 23, 2019 (edited) A good qb, a couple offensive lineman, and a TE would completely change this team. Trubisky is finished Edited December 23, 2019 by flapgreen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rschroeder1 Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 12 hours ago, flapgreen said: I saw Nagy try a lot of different things tonight. Mitch just can't do any of them. He's terrible. Change coming at qb. On the bright side, they now know Mitch isn't the guy. No point in trying to defend Mitch, but I have just as many questions of Nagy after last night. No doubt, as usual he schemed receivers open that Mitch missed. Nagy gets credit for that. But I found the Bears' approach on 3rd downs to be confounding. It was no secret the Chiefs were going to blitz, because they did so virtually every third down. The Bears' response was to either 1) throw a wide receiver screen on 3rd and long plays, which has a low percentage chance of success or 2) say "F*** it" and let the blitz come without any sort of max protect scheme. If I recall correctly, the best protection scheme the Bears offered was having a back (Tarik Cohen) on Trubisky's hip at the snap. No extra linemen, no tight end to block. In the face of abject schematic failure, the Bears just lined up and tried it again. And again. And again. Until Nagy shows the ability to see what is taking place on the field and respond to it, he's lost me. Unless your team is 16-0, there is no reason why the team you follow should not be running basic NFL schemes, like a max protect scheme when the line is struggling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadrap Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 Sorry for you gents. Mitch can't make the throws he has to make. IMO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flapgreen Posted December 23, 2019 Author Share Posted December 23, 2019 41 minutes ago, rschroeder1 said: No point in trying to defend Mitch, but I have just as many questions of Nagy after last night. No doubt, as usual he schemed receivers open that Mitch missed. Nagy gets credit for that. But I found the Bears' approach on 3rd downs to be confounding. It was no secret the Chiefs were going to blitz, because they did so virtually every third down. The Bears' response was to either 1) throw a wide receiver screen on 3rd and long plays, which has a low percentage chance of success or 2) say "F*** it" and let the blitz come without any sort of max protect scheme. If I recall correctly, the best protection scheme the Bears offered was having a back (Tarik Cohen) on Trubisky's hip at the snap. No extra linemen, no tight end to block. In the face of abject schematic failure, the Bears just lined up and tried it again. And again. And again. Until Nagy shows the ability to see what is taking place on the field and respond to it, he's lost me. Unless your team is 16-0, there is no reason why the team you follow should not be running basic NFL schemes, like a max protect scheme when the line is struggling. Impossible to know much on Nagy yet. His qb is awful. His play calling is him trying anything he can to help his qb. And Trubisky still can't do the most basic of things. The play calling is reflective of the lack of confidence he has in Mitch. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flapgreen Posted December 23, 2019 Author Share Posted December 23, 2019 Prime example here Watch it a few times and focus on a different receiver each time you rewatch it. Every single wide receiver is open on this play (Two open for a Touchdown) except for Javon Wims. https://t.co/Xqds0GxEQ7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lod001 Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 1 hour ago, flapgreen said: Prime example here Watch it a few times and focus on a different receiver each time you rewatch it. Every single wide receiver is open on this play (Two open for a Touchdown) except for Javon Wims. https://t.co/Xqds0GxEQ7 Not quite but he did throw to the one covered the most....so he's got that going for him...which is nice. The safety towards Miller read where doofus was looking and broke off towards the pass when he saw that doofus was going to Mims. The DB quit running with Miller when he saw the same. Robinson was only open after the throw. That's asking too much of this bum. A Jeff Blake punt pass to Robinson would have been a probable TD. But the NFL coaches are too dumb to remember that worked so magnificently back in the 90s. DEN used to to win a game because the DB interfered with Sutton giving the Broncos enough yardage to kick the GW FG with no time left. TE was totally wide open but that wasn't the #1 read. This bum is not capable of going through his progressions. A pump fake Jeff Blake punt pass would have worked but he's not capable of that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Statorama Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 I turned off the game last night when Mahomes had a 3rd and 9, was flushed from the pocket and threw the ball out of bounds. Bears DLman puts two fingers on him and Mahomes acts like someone whipped out the jammy and flat blasted him right there on the field. 15 yard penalty for an unbelievably bad acting performance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Tick Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 18 hours ago, flapgreen said: Nagy will be back. Mitch will be on the bench next year I don't believe this yet, I don't think Pace is ready to admit Mitch was a failure. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Tick Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 18 hours ago, RBM said: Just hope they beef up the right side or the line. Need 2 ### kickers over there. No way they can move on from RT, he is owed too much money right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Tick Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 9 hours ago, flapgreen said: That may have been the worst game of Trubisky's career last night. Couldn't run the most basic of plays. Wrong read numerous times. Horribly inaccurate. This guy is as good as gone. Top 10 all-time bust. And Pace should be canned for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flapgreen Posted December 24, 2019 Author Share Posted December 24, 2019 2 hours ago, The Tick said: And Pace should be canned for it. A lot of teams miss on qb. If he had been mediocre or bad everywhere else, I'd say you're right, but he's built a very solid roster. Bring in a qb next year and put him with Nagy. This franchise has been rebuilding for years. Eventually, you have to stay the course and quit firing everyone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RBM Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 2 minutes ago, flapgreen said: A lot of teams miss on qb. If he had been mediocre or bad everywhere else, I'd say you're right, but he's built a very solid roster. Bring in a qb next year and put him with Nagy. This franchise has been rebuilding for years. Eventually, you have to stay the course and quit firing everyone. This is a valid point. I think they’re going to stick this this Pace/Nagy combo for awhile. Biggest reason that bothers me is that I’m just not a believer in the way Nagy views a winning offense. Throwing the ball that much and having no interest in ever running physically is just not a formula I think you can win with. Look at his boy Reid. Tons of reg season success but can’t win in January. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Tick Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 1 hour ago, flapgreen said: A lot of teams miss on qb. If he had been mediocre or bad everywhere else, I'd say you're right, but he's built a very solid roster. Bring in a qb next year and put him with Nagy. This franchise has been rebuilding for years. Eventually, you have to stay the course and quit firing everyone. Has he? Offensive line is a mess, TE's are a joke, QB was a huge swing and a miss, cap looks to be in rough shape. When he made the trade up and picked Trubisky almost everyone was saying he was hitching his job on that pick. We have a couple years left on the prime of that D and Pace blew putting a solid winning team around it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Tick Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 8 minutes ago, The Tick said: Has he? Offensive line is a mess, TE's are a joke, QB was a huge swing and a miss, cap looks to be in rough shape. When he made the trade up and picked Trubisky almost everyone was saying he was hitching his job on that pick. We have a couple years left on the prime of that D and Pace blew putting a solid winning team around it. On top of that I'm really not looking forward to Pace getting another shot of a first round pick. He's made 4 top 10 picks and MAY have one difference maker in that group, and I'm not sure if Roquan is a sure thing yet. He's had so many chances to make this team better and botched most of them in my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintfool Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 Personally, I think Nagy should give up playcalling duties. He's been wildly inconsistent. His inexperience as a playcaller has shown itself time and time again. As far as Mitch goes, I'd expect a R2 pick used. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flapgreen Posted December 24, 2019 Author Share Posted December 24, 2019 1 hour ago, saintfool said: Personally, I think Nagy should give up playcalling duties. He's been wildly inconsistent. His inexperience as a playcaller has shown itself time and time again. As far as Mitch goes, I'd expect a R2 pick used. He probably should, but I doubt that happens. Don't really see any qb falling to the 2nd round worth taking. I'll bet they bring in a veteran and spend those 2nd round picks to fill holes. Grab a TE and either an Edge guy or guard in the top 50. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lod001 Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 16 minutes ago, flapgreen said: He probably should, but I doubt that happens. Don't really see any qb falling to the 2nd round worth taking. I'll bet they bring in a veteran and spend those 2nd round picks to fill holes. Grab a TE and either an Edge guy or guard in the top 50. I think they should give Horsted the opportunity. He looks the part as far as I'm concerned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flapgreen Posted December 24, 2019 Author Share Posted December 24, 2019 27 minutes ago, lod001 said: I think they should give Horsted the opportunity. He looks the part as far as I'm concerned. Drafting one early and having Horsted with him would be fine with me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flapgreen Posted December 24, 2019 Author Share Posted December 24, 2019 I can't remember ever seeing qb regress this badly. I know his opponents had more tape on him now, but Trubisky can't even run a basic play now. He may be the absolute worst starting qb in the entire league. I'm not being hyperbolic either. He's atrocious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lod001 Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 17 minutes ago, flapgreen said: I can't remember ever seeing qb regress this badly. I know his opponents had more tape on him now, but Trubisky can't even run a basic play now. He may be the absolute worst starting qb in the entire league. I'm not being hyperbolic either. He's atrocious. For when he was picked, he's definitely at the top of the list. He's no better than the free agent QBs that have been starting for other teams over the past 2 months. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flapgreen Posted December 24, 2019 Author Share Posted December 24, 2019 2 hours ago, lod001 said: For when he was picked, he's definitely at the top of the list. He's no better than the free agent QBs that have been starting for other teams over the past 2 months. Seriously, can you think of a worse starting qb? Someone who isn't 3rd string and starting because of injuries? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrigley Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 Pace has to go, he's responsible for both Nagy and Mitch 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flapgreen Posted December 24, 2019 Author Share Posted December 24, 2019 8 minutes ago, Wrigley said: Pace has to go, he's responsible for both Nagy and Mitch Pace isn't going anywhere. Built a solid roster. Just whiffed on qb. Nagy can be successful when he has a qb that actually runs the system. Trubisky has to go Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrigley Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 43 minutes ago, flapgreen said: Pace isn't going anywhere. Built a solid roster. Just whiffed on qb. Nagy can be successful when he has a qb that actually runs the system. Trubisky has to go Then maybe it's good that they don't have a 1st rounder this year, because he can't pick one 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flapgreen Posted December 24, 2019 Author Share Posted December 24, 2019 49 minutes ago, Wrigley said: Then maybe it's good that they don't have a 1st rounder this year, because he can't pick one Good point Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintfool Posted December 25, 2019 Share Posted December 25, 2019 6 hours ago, flapgreen said: Drafting one early and having Horsted with him would be fine with me. most drafts would have TE as developmental. Bears need someone that can step in immediately to contribute. i don't see Burton going anywhere because of his contract. he deserves a mulligan because of the injuries and the ineptitude of Mitch this year. for the most part, i think the offense has succeeded despite Mitch and it is hard to evaluate players effectively when that happens. Burton may be good again in this offense - even if overpaid - but Mitch isn't helping him shine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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