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The Russia Investigation: Trump Pardons Flynn (9 Viewers)
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Sammy3469
Footballguy
He’s going to get to do that no matter what. This just gives him more ammunition.
Henry Ford
Footballguy
I don’t agree with doxing and I don’t agree with releasing nude pictures. But explanation of any crimes he committed are fair game. Including and especially election law crimes. And infidelity is fair game.
SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
BigSteelThrill
Footballguy
Th president (and public political offices) isn't just anyone though. You want to acquire one of these positions, you must have behaved and continue to behave in a different manner.
Righetti
Footballguy
Banger
Footballguy
Now he really knows what he wants his legal team to look like. Then in 6 months he’ll change it again.
Another long forgotten thread in the data game was the server in Trump tower that was communicating with Russia’s Alfa Bank and Spectrum Health. Spectrum is led by Betsy Devos’ husband. While these connections may just be coincidences, I have a hard time believing that.
Some of Twitter theories out there believe that this will end up being very important. One theory is that Spectrum was providing private patient information and sending through the server and that information was used by the Trump campaign for their targeted marketing.
Another theory took it a step further saying that it was the method of how the Trump campaign and Russian hackers shared data.
Now with everything that we’ve learned CA and IRA, that fits right in with all of it. Russian hackers got into voter databases. CA stole and used information from Facebook. IRA targeted specific groups of people that most experts believed they couldn’t have done without help from people in the US.
I’m sure we will find out that it’s all connected. The stolen voter registration was given to CA. They used that information along with the Facebook information and the information from Spectrum to get a complete voter profile complete with addresses, phone number and a ton of personal information. CA used that information for their own targeted campaigns on social media and then passed it back to the IRA to be used in their targeted campaign.
Some of Twitter theories out there believe that this will end up being very important. One theory is that Spectrum was providing private patient information and sending through the server and that information was used by the Trump campaign for their targeted marketing.
Another theory took it a step further saying that it was the method of how the Trump campaign and Russian hackers shared data.
Now with everything that we’ve learned CA and IRA, that fits right in with all of it. Russian hackers got into voter databases. CA stole and used information from Facebook. IRA targeted specific groups of people that most experts believed they couldn’t have done without help from people in the US.
I’m sure we will find out that it’s all connected. The stolen voter registration was given to CA. They used that information along with the Facebook information and the information from Spectrum to get a complete voter profile complete with addresses, phone number and a ton of personal information. CA used that information for their own targeted campaigns on social media and then passed it back to the IRA to be used in their targeted campaign.
saintfool
Dead sexy
here's the thing for me: part of this is connected to the kompromat. if Trump had extramarital relations, didn't disclose those at any point, then that's between him, his family and voters. he's been willing to deny and/or hide these experiences to this point. if there was a record of these experiences - beyond Stormy - in a foreign country with something far worse - underage or something more deviant - and some foreign gov't, multinational company, criminal syndicate, cabal, whatever has that? well, he's going to have to make a choice: become an asset? something to facilitate their aims maybe? or risk your professional reputation, face total ruin, and legal repercussions? it can go from simple moneylaundering to something far more grand with the right network maybe? we know he's not the sharpest guy. we should not be so ready to accept that he's the mastermind here. Putin or the Rothschild - depending on what you want to believe - could have a long game here like something out of the "Manchurian Candidate".
Henry Ford
Footballguy
Henry Ford
Footballguy
Or be willing to simply admit to it and refuse to be blackmailed. Heck, have an open marriage. I don’t care what people admit to. It’s the lying and covering up that compromises them.
BigSteelThrill
Footballguy
The conservatives lost their mind and demanded a resignation over the ethical failure of **** pics.
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SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
skol asylum
Footballguy
Trump lawyering down.
President Trump shook up his legal team Monday by hiring a combative former prosecutor who has publicly argued that Trump is the target of an elaborate FBI conspiracy — marking another confrontational move by the president against the rapidly mounting legal threats facing him and his administration.
Joe diGenova, a TV pundit and former U.S. attorney who was a longtime antagonist of Bill and Hillary Clinton, is the latest addition to the sprawling array of lawyers assembled to represent Trump on two main fronts: in the probe of Russian interference in the 2016 presidential election and in the case of an adult film star who claims an adulterous affair.
The hiring caught many of his advisers by surprise, prompting fears that Trump is preparing for bigger changes to his legal team — including possible departures — as he goes on the offensive in the primary legal challenges facing him.
Trump is not consulting with top advisers, including Chief of Staff John F. Kelly and chief White House lawyer Donald McGahn, on his Russia legal choices or his comments about the probe, according to one person with knowledge of his actions, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to describe sensitive conversations. He is instead watching television and calling friends, this person said.
The president continues to complain that his lawyers are not protecting him and that Deputy Attorney General Rod J. Rosenstein — who is supervising the probe — is up to mischief, said the person, who spoke to Trump in recent days.
President Trump shook up his legal team Monday by hiring a combative former prosecutor who has publicly argued that Trump is the target of an elaborate FBI conspiracy — marking another confrontational move by the president against the rapidly mounting legal threats facing him and his administration.
Joe diGenova, a TV pundit and former U.S. attorney who was a longtime antagonist of Bill and Hillary Clinton, is the latest addition to the sprawling array of lawyers assembled to represent Trump on two main fronts: in the probe of Russian interference in the 2016 presidential election and in the case of an adult film star who claims an adulterous affair.
The hiring caught many of his advisers by surprise, prompting fears that Trump is preparing for bigger changes to his legal team — including possible departures — as he goes on the offensive in the primary legal challenges facing him.
Trump is not consulting with top advisers, including Chief of Staff John F. Kelly and chief White House lawyer Donald McGahn, on his Russia legal choices or his comments about the probe, according to one person with knowledge of his actions, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to describe sensitive conversations. He is instead watching television and calling friends, this person said.
The president continues to complain that his lawyers are not protecting him and that Deputy Attorney General Rod J. Rosenstein — who is supervising the probe — is up to mischief, said the person, who spoke to Trump in recent days.
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BigSteelThrill
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PSA: if a site is ever log-in/pay just slam the Esc button after clicking link and while its loading.
skol asylum
Footballguy
I just realized that you can get the Washington Post for free for 6 months as part of Amazon Prime and just signed up. 3.99 per month after.
cosjobs
Footballguy
lakerstan
Footballguy
Don’t forget about the “sex coach”, Anastasia Vashukevich, from Belarus sitting in a prison in Thailand with supposed evidence.
msommer
Footballguy
msommer
Footballguy
lakerstan
Footballguy
Speaking of Ukraine, Michael Cohen is getting a lot of play due to the Stormy Daniels story, but I’m not sure people realize that he appears to have all kinds of Eastern European connections.
I’m not saying that people can’t have perfectly legitimate relationships with people from Eastern Europe, but it looks like he is deeply connected to the community.
He’s married to Laura Schusterman, who is Ukrainian, and has been friends with Felix Sater (Russian) since his youth. Link1 Link2
He worked with Sater on the Trump Tower Moscow Project Link3
An early business partner was Simon Garber, a Russian, with whom he co-owned a cab company Link4
And was partners in a gambling boat business with Ukrainians, Arkady Vaygensberg and Leonid Tatarchuk Link5
I would tend to believe that if there are Trump/Russia connections, that he, along with Manafort and others, could be implicated.
I’m not saying that people can’t have perfectly legitimate relationships with people from Eastern Europe, but it looks like he is deeply connected to the community.
He’s married to Laura Schusterman, who is Ukrainian, and has been friends with Felix Sater (Russian) since his youth. Link1 Link2
He worked with Sater on the Trump Tower Moscow Project Link3
An early business partner was Simon Garber, a Russian, with whom he co-owned a cab company Link4
And was partners in a gambling boat business with Ukrainians, Arkady Vaygensberg and Leonid Tatarchuk Link5
I would tend to believe that if there are Trump/Russia connections, that he, along with Manafort and others, could be implicated.
AAABatteries
Footballguy
Agree. I will say if something criminal is in the video then it should be turned over to authorities but never be released to public.
cobalt_27
Footballguy
Oh?
Give it to authorities, part of your deep state conspiracy, which you disrespect and undermine at every turn now? Got it.
Workhorse
Footballguy
Sabertooth
Footballguy
randall146
Footballguy
Doctor Detroit
Please remove your headgear
It’s amazing anyone can legitimately use that as a defense these days, but it seems to be the POTUS’ go-to.
AAABatteries
Footballguy
Wat?
ETA - I’m thinking you either have me confused with someone else or my sarcasm radar is off
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timschochet
Footballguy
Apparently a majority of Americans now believe that the “Deep State” exists:
https://www.google.com/amp/thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/379065-majority-in-new-poll-deep-state-manipulating-policy%3famp
We are in serious trouble here, folks. It appears that Trump and his allies have been successful in degrading public confidence in our institutions, paving the way for...who knows? But it’s bad.
https://www.google.com/amp/thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/379065-majority-in-new-poll-deep-state-manipulating-policy%3famp
We are in serious trouble here, folks. It appears that Trump and his allies have been successful in degrading public confidence in our institutions, paving the way for...who knows? But it’s bad.
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AAABatteries
Footballguy
fatguyinalittlecoat
Footballguy
timschochet
Footballguy
fatguyinalittlecoat
Footballguy
Do you think it's possible that McMasters and Mattis have had some private conversations about actions to take to minimize the damage of Trump's policy decisions? That would seem to qualify as Deep State under the question's definition.
moleculo
Footballguy
I mean, there are unquestionably unelected governmental officials that direct government policy. There are a ton of career bureaucrats in all branches of government. We can't have a government that completely turns over every 4 years, that would be madness.
We have government agencies whos leadership gets churned every few years based on presidential appointments (or lack thereof), but the people who actually know how #### works - they aren't going anywhere. And that's probably a good thing.
I don't understand how career bureaucrats became the bogeymen here.
timschochet
Footballguy
Massive distrust of our public institutions, combined with increasing distrust of the news media, makes us extremely vulnerable to an end to our Republican system of government, replaced with some form of a dictatorship. Unlikely from Trump, even though he might want it; he’s far too incompetent and narcissistic to pull this off. But eventually there will emerge a much more competent charismatic populist. It could be from either party.
fatguyinalittlecoat
Footballguy
Not disagreeing with all of this, but that survey doesn't really convince me of anything.
timschochet
Footballguy
Yes I’m sure they have. But I don’t think it would qualify because it’s a what if situation, responding to specific events, and not some master scene to manipulate the government.
Sammy3469
Footballguy
Just to echo this point, (here comes a statement with no evidence) but would it be shocking if CA obtained compromising information on elected US officials doing something like this?
AAABatteries
Footballguy
Yeah - I’ve always assumed this type of stuff exists and was just “the way things are done” by both sides. Granted, Trump is the first one to attack it in this way and make it out to be partisan. Ultimately it’s peobably a poorly worded poll to draw the conclusion Tim is. Maybe if the answers were “it exists and is meant to help Democrats” or something similar then I’d be more worried.
fatguyinalittlecoat
Footballguy
timschochet
Footballguy
I get your point and I sure hope you guys are right. Perhaps a portion of the public is considering Fatguy’s example of Mattis. I hope so.
timschochet
Footballguy
All right perhaps I overreacted. Sure hope so. It just sounded to me like a whole lot of people have bought in to Trump’s deep state arguments. That would be profoundly disturbing.
fatguyinalittlecoat
Footballguy
From the same survey, this is the question before the question where they defined deep state:
I don't think all of the affirmative responses to the other question were Hannity fanboys. If all you know about "deep state" is the one sentence description given by the pollster, it's pretty easy to understand why the results came out as they did.Are you very familiar, somewhat familiar, or not familiar with the term Deep State as it applies to the federal government?
March
2018
Very familiar13%
Somewhat familiar24%
Not familiar63%
(803)
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FishTacoTuesday
Footballguy
Deep State=lobbyists
AAABatteries
Footballguy
I’m actually convinced of the opposite - most long-time Republicans who are smart see the guy is horrible and a liar. They can’t wait for him to be out of office. Look at it like this - you still rooted for UCLA football even while hoping Mora would get canned. It’s a dumb analogy but I think mostly accurate for how most feel. Then you have the moronic mouth breathers - I don’t really care what they think as I feel like their days are numbered.
mr roboto
Footballguy
Oh I’m sure it does. You really think the US runs like a 7th grade civics textbook?
This is not the same as a massive conspiracy to get trump or protect Hillary though.
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