The Z Machine 4,750 Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 It's pretty obvious that Trump is engaging in the same tactics he used as a private citizen to not comply with court orders. Delay, counter sue, delay, give only incrementally until forced, etc. However, now he doesn't need to pay for those legal services, he gets them for free from the DoJ and WH office of legal counsel. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sinn Fein 33,971 Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 Mark your calendar: The judge in Michael Flynn's case scheduled the much-litigated-over hearing to consider DOJ's request to drop the prosecution against Flynn for 9/29 at 11am 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jplvr 909 Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 I have just checked out on the news recently but saw this posted. Nothing to see here. Just another set of electronic devices wiped. I'm sure they just had wedding plans and yoga appointments on them. https://justthenews.com/accountability/mueller-investigators-accidentally-wiped-over-dozen-phones-turning-over-igs-office This whole thing was a sham from the start and should be exposed, but not even the cover up is covered by normal media. The only people doing actual reporting on the Russia hoax now carry labels like alt-right media. Shameful #### all because we have a buffoon in office some want removed by any and all means possible. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sho nuff 16,560 Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 4 minutes ago, jplvr said: I have just checked out on the news recently but saw this posted. Nothing to see here. Just another set of electronic devices wiped. I'm sure they just had wedding plans and yoga appointments on them. https://justthenews.com/accountability/mueller-investigators-accidentally-wiped-over-dozen-phones-turning-over-igs-office This whole thing was a sham from the start and should be exposed, but not even the cover up is covered by normal media. The only people doing actual reporting on the Russia hoax now carry labels like alt-right media. Shameful #### all because we have a buffoon in office some want removed by any and all means possible. Except it wasn't a sham from the start. Cover up? And the reason the only places calling it a hoax are called alt-right media...is because its what they are. Usually not credible and usually making accusations they can't actually back up with facts. What information do you think you are getting from phones as far as the investigations that you aren't getting from computers and the documents of their actual investigation? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SaintsInDome2006 47,463 Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 1 hour ago, jplvr said: I have just checked out on the news recently but saw this posted. Nothing to see here. Just another set of electronic devices wiped. I'm sure they just had wedding plans and yoga appointments on them. https://justthenews.com/accountability/mueller-investigators-accidentally-wiped-over-dozen-phones-turning-over-igs-office This whole thing was a sham from the start and should be exposed, but not even the cover up is covered by normal media. The only people doing actual reporting on the Russia hoax now carry labels like alt-right media. Shameful #### all because we have a buffoon in office some want removed by any and all means possible. Fwiw, this is an old claim, maybe 2 years old, and it's false. I forget who runs Just The News, one of the right wing mavens, and while Judicial Watch is good at Foia it's usually misrepresenting what's in the documents it gets. What I recall from this is that the DOJ (not OSC) wiped phones when employees left as a standard procedure which the documents actually show. Doubt it's worth revisiting an old claim from 2017 with links. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sinn Fein 33,971 Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 Intelligencer @intelligencer Rudy Giuliani has been working with Andriy Derkach, an active Russian agent, to smear Joe Biden. Giuliani’s reason for not suspecting Derkach as a Russian agent is that he didn’t tell him he was a Russian agent. @jonathanchait writes Oh, Rudy.... 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
2Squirrels1Nut 1,991 Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 23 minutes ago, Sinn Fein said: Intelligencer @intelligencer Rudy Giuliani has been working with Andriy Derkach, an active Russian agent, to smear Joe Biden. Giuliani’s reason for not suspecting Derkach as a Russian agent is that he didn’t tell him he was a Russian agent. @jonathanchait writes Oh, Rudy.... File this under "I didn't specifically say quid pro quo". Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ren hoek 4,995 Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 How exactly is Derkach a Russian agent? Not trying to be defensive, just want to understand. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
msommer 8,981 Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 1 hour ago, SaintsInDome2006 said: Fwiw, this is an old claim, maybe 2 years old, and it's false. I forget who runs Just The News, one of the right wing mavens, and while Judicial Watch is good at Foia it's usually misrepresenting what's in the documents it gets. What I recall from this is that the DOJ (not OSC) wiped phones when employees left as a standard procedure which the documents actually show. Doubt it's worth revisiting an old claim from 2017 with links. I'm shocked, truly shocked..... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ren hoek 4,995 Posted September 13, 2020 Share Posted September 13, 2020 (edited) https://twitter.com/milesklassin/status/1304450430664138758 The dishonesty of the “reporting” on this #### is astounding. Edited September 13, 2020 by ren hoek Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sho nuff 16,560 Posted September 13, 2020 Share Posted September 13, 2020 18 minutes ago, ren hoek said: https://twitter.com/milesklassin/status/1304450430664138758 The dishonesty of the “reporting” on this #### is astounding. Which part was dishonest...did you read the article...the associated tweet that said trying and failing? Do you believe Russian Troll farms are not, in fact, doing so? Why the constant defense of all things Russia? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ren hoek 4,995 Posted September 13, 2020 Share Posted September 13, 2020 2 hours ago, sho nuff said: Which part was dishonest...did you read the article...the associated tweet that said trying and failing? Do you believe Russian Troll farms are not, in fact, doing so? Why the constant defense of all things Russia? I couldn’t read the article- it’s behind a paywall. This Daily Beast writer just wanted to slime ‘left’ news orgs as somehow being useful to official bad guys and adjacent to evildoers. Look at yourself. I am disagreeing with the suggestion that this “infiltration and exploitation”- apparently a singular email to the editor of a magazine that wasn’t even responded to- was worthy of a fearmongering headline that tars “left-wing publications” as vulnerable to “Russian troll farms.” And you say it’s a “constant defense of all things Russia.” Schachtman pretends that junk emails to website editors are somehow a sinister plot to infiltrate progressive magazines. That’s dishonest. What a bunch of baloney. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sho nuff 16,560 Posted September 13, 2020 Share Posted September 13, 2020 9 minutes ago, ren hoek said: I couldn’t read the article- it’s behind a paywall. This Daily Beast writer just wanted to slime ‘left’ news orgs as somehow being useful to official bad guys and adjacent to evildoers. Look at yourself. I am disagreeing with the suggestion that this “infiltration and exploitation”- apparently a singular email to the editor of a magazine that wasn’t even responded to- was worthy of a fearmongering headline that tars “left-wing publications” as vulnerable to “Russian troll farms.” And you say it’s a “constant defense of all things Russia.” Schachtman pretends that junk emails to website editors are somehow a sinister plot to infiltrate progressive magazines. That’s dishonest. What a bunch of baloney. Except you admit you didn't read the article...so you are basing the call of dishonesty on a tweet where one place it was only one email. I dont get that...just seems to be the same thing the complaint is about the reporting. Amd the constant defense goes beyond this one issue 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ren hoek 4,995 Posted September 13, 2020 Share Posted September 13, 2020 1 hour ago, sho nuff said: Except you admit you didn't read the article Yes- because I don't want to give The Daily Beast money sho nuff. Is that ok? Am I supposed to give websites money to check whether their reports are bogus or not? They should not hide leaked documents behind a paywall. It's an extraordinary allegation that demands serious evidence and something less crass than a Russian flag with a troll face on it. 1 hour ago, sho nuff said: ...so you are basing the call of dishonesty on a tweet where one place it was only one email. Yes- because it was written by the editor of the accused magazine. Who has been published in several mainstream papers and The Nation, all of which are more credible than DB (which isn't saying much). Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ren hoek 4,995 Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 I just spent way too much time digging through juniorNB's posts. Not to call him out specifically either, there were tons of people making posts to this effect. But I kind of miss the extremely cringe Mueller posts, when he was a 12D puppet master, a law enforcement mastermind 100 steps ahead of everyone. On 1/28/2019 at 7:29 PM, JuniorNB said: Yeah I would find it very hard to believe that Don Jr is not getting indicted. He was the ringleader of the very Russian coordination that everyone else is going to jail for. Mueller has to play it smart though. If he'd of indicted him six months ago, Trump would have probably shut the whole thing down. He knows he's dealing with a man-child plus a cowardly Senate that will do anything he says. Just remember that Mueller is the smartest person in the room. On 11/29/2018 at 11:40 AM, JuniorNB said: Agree. Mueller was waiting to get that in writing from Trump. He knew all of this for weeks/months. But until he got Trump to lie about it, he kept it under wraps. This is playing out beautifully. Mueller is a puppet master. On 9/14/2018 at 1:55 PM, JuniorNB said: The most hilarious part of all this is that some people are still claiming that Mueller doesn't have one piece of proof that Trump colluded. lol 4 hours ago, no one knew that he convinced Manafort to cooperate. Every time someone is indicted, it's a shock to everyone. There are never clues or leaks. Yet they think that Mueller would accidently tell someone about collusion evidence at his monthly book group meeting. On 9/14/2018 at 1:15 PM, JuniorNB said: Be patient little one. Mr Mueller is the consummate professional. Methodically picking them off one by one. The walls are closing in. Everyone Trump thought would be loyal are realizing he doesn't give a rat's ### about them and he'd send every single one of them to jail to save his own ###. Stone is next. This is a marathon, not a sprint. It could be another year or more. The best part is how Mueller doesn't leak a single thing. While Trump frantically tweets and tweets and tweets. Totally in the dark about what he knows. The drawn out torture to Trump and his paranoia is the best part. On 2/5/2019 at 2:55 PM, JuniorNB said: There is a 100% chance that the only reason Mueller hasn't indicted Don Jr yet is because he wants to do more behind the scenes investigating before going scorched Earth. He knows the reaction once he starts busting Trump's actual family. He's obviously waiting till he's practically finished. On 4/23/2019 at 10:07 AM, JuniorNB said: While it may be true that you don't impeach purely for political reasons, in this desperate time, you don't do anything that improves this lying criminal's chance of getting reelected. That being said, I am not dead-set against impeachment. I may change my mind after Mueller testifies in front of congress. Not that it would change the opinion of the 35% hardcore Trump fans who would stick by him regardless of what he did. But Mueller is a widely respected figure amongst the huge percentage of the country who actually think freely and aren't a slave to a particular party. His testimony could be damaging enough that no amount of Trump spin can mend the wounds. Once I think a failed removal won't help Trump, then I'll be aboard the impeachment train. On 12/8/2018 at 11:11 AM, JuniorNB said: Yes, it's being revealed that Mueller has proof of Trump's coordination of Russian collusion and illegal use of campaign funds, but did you know a few black guys kneel during the national anthem??!? On 2/16/2018 at 1:27 PM, JuniorNB said: Mueller has already locked up Time Person of the Year for 2018. On 12/1/2017 at 11:56 AM, JuniorNB said: May be too late, but Mueller is Time Magazine Person of the Year by a longshot. Decade, maybe On 7/17/2018 at 11:37 AM, JuniorNB said: This country desperately needs Mueller right now. He may be the only person in the world who can save us at this point. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ren hoek 4,995 Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 The knives come out for Robert Mueller The disgruntled ‘Resistance’ turns on its former hero Cockburn September 22, 2020 3:57 AM For two years, Robert Mueller was the closest thing to a living saint Donald Trump’s political opponents could imagine. The FBI veteran was recast as St Michael, descending into the maw of Hell to strike down the Cinnamon Satan himself. A dedicated page on Reddit, titled only ‘The Mueller’, amassed more than 170,000 subscribers. The women of SNL serenaded Mueller during the holidays. Avid fans bought Robert Mueller buttons, action figures, ugly Christmas sweaters, and mugs (‘After a long day of treason, It’s Mueller Time!’). The most pious lit Mueller-themed prayer candles. By the final days of the investigation, the Associated Press even profiled elderly, dying Trump haters whose deepest wish was to live just long enough to see Mueller’s fateful report. Sadly, the AP never followed up. Cockburn would like to know how many made it that far — only to die of sheer disappointment. St Mueller the Archangel did not cast the President into Hell, to put it mildly. And so now, a year later, he is suffering the fate of so many others who are no longer useful to the American left. Rather than merely be forgotten, he has joined the cast of villains. Playing the role of Brutus in this tragedy is Andrew Weissmann, once Mueller’s senior deputy, now the first member of his team to cash in with a book deal. Weissmann once put 85,000 people out of work by destroying the accounting giant Arthur Andersen with a bogus criminal probe that was later overturned unanimously by the Supreme Court. He is, you might say, an aggressive prosecutor. In Where Law Ends, he sticks pins into his old boss, blaming his timidity for the failure of the investigation to achieve more spectacular results. According to Weissman, Mueller ‘let the American people down’ by not issuing enough subpoenas, not probing Trump’s financial records and not openly accusing the President of obstruction of justice. Weissman’s criticisms have unleashed a torrent of abuse against the #Resistance’s erstwhile champion. The same Twitter hoi polloi who may once have attended Muller testimony viewing parties now dubbed Mueller a ‘coward’, a ‘failure’ and even a ‘traitor’. Bluechecks were more measured in their language, but kept the clear venom. But it is not Mueller’s conduct in 2018 that discredits the Mueller investigation, but Weissman’s conduct right now and the press’s coverage of it. The Atlantic’s original headline on Monday says it all: ‘The Inside Story of Why Mueller Failed.’ It has been many years since Cockburn studied rhetoric, but he believes this is what Aristotle called ‘assuming the conclusion’. A special investigation looking for a vast conspiracy to collude with a foreign power to rig an election is not a ‘failure’ if it does not find that conspiracy. It is a success, so long as it manages to find the truth. But the truth was not what the President’s enemies wanted. That is why Weissmann told the Atlantic that the report was a ‘historic missed opportunity’. The opportunity in question wasn’t learning the truth about Trump. It was the chance to nullify the 2016 election. But Mueller’s conclusions were unambiguous: he found no evidence the President colluded with Russia and no evidence he tried to. Without collusion, the ‘obstruction’ charges Weissman wanted become a farce; Trump would have been accused of obstruction for angrily calling a baseless, politically-motivated investigation baseless and politically motivated. Nevertheless, Weissman’s book makes it clear that exact situation is nearly what happened. And that, perhaps, is the real disturbing revelation from Weissmann’s book. A groundless investigation, driven by a political temper tantrum, didn’t just sidetrack US politics for two years. It nearly succeeded in bringing down a presidency. And while Weissmann may have ‘accidentally’ erased his phone twice during the course of the investigation, he doubtless has notes to ensure the next political inquisition does not fail. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ren hoek 4,995 Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 @ScarlettBice I can’t believe Mueller - who we put our complete faith in - totally sucked ###. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
-jb- 959 Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 OAN raising the Skolkovo project from a few years ago. I don’t know much about it. @ren hoek @SaintsInDome2006 what are the Biden implications here? It looks like the Clinton foundation funneled some money into it and it has military espionage implications. Readers Digest version? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sho nuff 16,560 Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 OAN...going to guess zero actual implications... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
-jb- 959 Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 (edited) 16 minutes ago, sho nuff said: OAN...going to guess zero actual implications... Agree that the source is terrible. I am just curious as to what happened. Here’s a link the The Hill that discusses it. https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/429292-the-case-for-russia-collusion-against-the-democrats eta yes, an oped. Again I’m just curious as to what went down. Edited October 6, 2020 by -jb- Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sho nuff 16,560 Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 Just now, -jb- said: Agree that the source is terrible. I am just curious as to what happened. Here’s a link the The Hill that discusses it. https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/429292-the-case-for-russia-collusion-against-the-democrats Id put that link barely above OAN...not the Hill...but Solomon himself. I blieve the Hill was investigating the articles he had posted on their site. His opinions typically have not aged well when it comes to Russia and Ukraine (and that link even has him going to Uranium One). 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
quick-hands 363 Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 Trump just declassified everything in connection to Russian hoax 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
timschochet 33,333 Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 7 minutes ago, quick-hands said: Trump just declassified everything in connection to Russian hoax What hoax? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Biff84 2,785 Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 9 minutes ago, quick-hands said: Trump just declassified everything in connection to Russian hoax So it’s Hail Mary time? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
-jb- 959 Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 How do we know it’s everything? Honest question. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sho nuff 16,560 Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 10 minutes ago, Biff84 said: So it’s Hail Mary time? He has asked for some of this before...the DOJ blocks it in court. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Dude 842 Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 11 minutes ago, sho nuff said: He has asked for some of this before...the DOJ blocks it in court. Barr probably knows there’s damaging stuff in there for Trump - andTrump has no clue Quote Link to post Share on other sites
H Jass 890 Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 (edited) This got me thinking of another Hail Mary that actually would probably swing real votes. ”If re-elected I will declassify all files on UFOs/aliens, Kennedy assassination, and all supernatural happenings. No redactions!” I mean I still wouldn’t vote for him....but I’d pause for a moment. Edited October 7, 2020 by Hugh Jass 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
[scooter] 14,071 Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 37 minutes ago, quick-hands said: Trump just declassified everything in connection to Russian This is inaccurate. He didn't declassify anything; he merely "authorized" things to be declassified. (link) (And, to be more accurate, we don't know if he really authorized all of the declassification; all we know at this point is that he tweeted about authorizing it.) Also, he's lying when he says there will be "No redactions". So far, several redactions have remained. 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BigJim® 1,044 Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 (edited) On 10/6/2020 at 8:44 PM, [scooter] said: This is inaccurate. He didn't declassify anything; he merely "authorized" things to be declassified. (link) (And, to be more accurate, we don't know if he really authorized all of the declassification; all we know at this point is that he tweeted about authorizing it.) Also, he's lying when he says there will be "No redactions". So far, several redactions have remained. Well, looks like we'll find out. On the record. Publicly. https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/16/politics/trump-russia-declassification-lawsuit/index.html Quote "It's not the White House that declassifies information. It's the President," Judge Reggie Walton of the DC District Court in Washington said in a hearing Friday. "Don't I need to know what the President's position is and not what White House counsel's statement is?" Walton added. Walton said in court Friday he needed to know what the President actually wanted -- and if Trump would "retract" his public statements ordering the documents' release. The judge asked for the White House counsel's office to confer directly with Trump and report back to court by next week, when he'll hold another court hearing Wednesday. The judge also set a deadline of Tuesday at noon for DOJ to file a declaration "by the President or an individual who has conferred directly with the President" on what his declassification statements meant. "The American public has a right to rely on what a President says his intent is," Walton said. Edited October 16, 2020 by BigJim® 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
[scooter] 14,071 Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 On 10/6/2020 at 6:44 PM, [scooter] said: On 10/6/2020 at 6:01 PM, quick-hands said: Trump just declassified everything in connection to Russian This is inaccurate. He didn't declassify anything; he merely "authorized" things to be declassified. (link) (And, to be more accurate, we don't know if he really authorized all of the declassification; all we know at this point is that he tweeted about authorizing it.) Also, he's lying when he says there will be "No redactions". So far, several redactions have remained. UPDATE: Trump administration tells judge that Trump was NOT declassifying everything in connection to Russia, but was merely delegating authority to AG Barr Quote Link to post Share on other sites
whoknew 8,741 Posted October 20, 2020 Author Share Posted October 20, 2020 29 minutes ago, [scooter] said: UPDATE: Trump administration tells judge that Trump was NOT declassifying everything in connection to Russia, but was merely delegating authority to AG Barr Shocking development. I don't think anyone could have seen that coming. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Z Machine 4,750 Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 Oh man, I thought Trump was gonna put it all out there to prove the deep state was corrupt, out to get him, and the MSM was in their pocket to create the "Russia Hoax". You mean that's not true? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gr00vus 11,823 Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 Someone remind me: how many guilty pleas and indictments came out of this? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Biff84 2,785 Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 3 hours ago, [scooter] said: UPDATE: Trump administration tells judge that Trump was NOT declassifying everything in connection to Russia, but was merely delegating authority to AG Barr So have we moved onto telling the judge that no reasonable person should take Trump’s public statements seriously? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gr00vus 11,823 Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 199 criminal charges, 37 indictments or guilty pleas, and 5 prison sentences Corroboration of allegations in the Steele dossier. He didn't bat 1.000, but he did hit on a lot of these. 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
quick-hands 363 Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 7 hours ago, [scooter] said: UPDATE: Trump administration tells judge that Trump was NOT declassifying everything in connection to Russia, but was merely delegating authority to AG Barr So we were both wrong.....um thanks. But u seem more wrong than me. I was only slightly wrong.....and im more likely to grow in my righteousness Quote Link to post Share on other sites
2Squirrels1Nut 1,991 Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 On 10/20/2020 at 5:43 PM, Gr00vus said: 199 criminal charges, 37 indictments or guilty pleas, and 5 prison sentences Corroboration of allegations in the Steele dossier. He didn't bat 1.000, but he did hit on a lot of these. This isn't "nothing" a "hoax" or even an invesigation started by democrats. Those are all lies. Quote Why was the investigation launched? The FBI opened “Crossfire Hurricane” on July 31, 2016, after learning a Trump campaign aide may have had advance knowledge that Russian intelligence operatives had stolen Democratic emails. A diplomat revealed that the aide, George Papadopoulos, had boasted to him that he had heard Russia had damaging information on Democrat Hillary Clinton that it could release to harm her campaign. That May 2016 conversation triggered alarms within the FBI since the Russian hacking operation, which resulted in the public disclosure of thousands of hacked emails, was not yet public knowledge. Here's more Quote In 2016, Donald Trump’s campaign chairman shared polling data with an associate suspected of ties to Russian intelligence. Another Trump associate sought inside information about Democratic emails stolen by Kremlin operatives. The candidate himself invited Russia to hunt for his opponent’s emails, then tried to stifle investigators once he entered the White House. Link 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mcintyre1 3,294 Posted November 14, 2020 Share Posted November 14, 2020 Secret intelligence exists that ‘would cast Trump in very negative light’, warns ex-FBI chief Quote ‘It’s almost incomprehensible to me that he would want that information out,’ says Andrew McCabe Former acting FBI director Andrew McCabe has warned that classified intelligence from bureau’s investigation into President Donald Trump’s 2016 campaign ties to Russia could contain information that would “risk casting the president in a very negative light”. Mr McCabe has been at the centre of a Senate Judiciary Committee hearing, in which a Republican-controlled panel is reviewing the FBI’s recision to initiate the investigation. He testified before the panel on Tuesday and told lawmakers that officials had a “duty” to carry out the investigation due to the information they had collected. Mr McCabe personally approved the decision to investigate Mr Trump for possible obstruction of justice. In an interview with CNN on Friday night, Mr McCabe was asked what the risks were if more information from the Russia investigation was to be declassified. CNN anchor Andrew Cuomo said Mr Trump was told by Devin Nunes, a close ally of the president’s and former chair of the House Intelligence Committee, that if more previously unreleased information comes out, the more it will appear that the president was “framed”. “From your knowledge, is there anything that could come out that people would look at and say, ‘wow, I can’t believe they ever included the president in this analysis, he and his people clearly did nothing’?” asked Mr Cuomo. Mr McCabe replied: “There is some very, very serious, very specific, undeniable intelligence that has not come out, that if it were released, would risk compromising our access to that sort of information in the future. “I think it would also risk casting the president in a very negative light - so, would he have a motivation to release those things? It’s almost incomprehensible to me that he would want that information out, I don’t see how he spins it into his advantage, because quite frankly, I don’t believe it’s flattering. Asked if Mr McCabe thought there was more “bad stuff” about Mr Trump that wasn’t already publicly known, he replied: “There is always more intelligence, there is a lot more in the intelligence community assessment than what is ever released for public consumption. “The original version of that report was classified at the absolute highest level I have ever seen. We’re talking about top secret, compartmentalised code word stuff, and it would be tragic to American intelligence collection for those sources to be put at risk.” The FBI has been accused by the Senate Judiciary Committee of going “rogue” with the Russia investigation, with one senator describing it as the “biggest scandal in the history of the FBI” on Tuesday. Mr Trump has repeatedly railed against the FBI for the investigation and maintained there was “no collusion” between his 2016 presidential campaign and Russia. In 2019, after a report by former FBI director Robert Mueller concluded that Mr Trump’s campaign did not conspire with Russia during the 2016 election - but did not clear him of obstruction of justice - Mr Trump tweeted: “No Collusion, No Obstruction, Complete and Total EXONERATION. KEEP AMERICA GREAT!” During the hearing on Tuesday, Mr McCabe pointed out that Mr Trump fired then-director James B Comey in 2017 after Mr Comey refused to close an investigation into the president’s national security at the time, or say publicly that Mr Trump himself was not under investigation. Mr McCabe said: “It became pretty clear to us that he did not want us to continue investigating what the Russians had done. “We had many reasons at that point to believe that the president might himself pose a danger to national security and that he might have engaged in obstruction of justice, if the firing of the director and those other things were geared towards elimination or stopping our investigation of Russian activity.” 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
2Squirrels1Nut 1,991 Posted November 14, 2020 Share Posted November 14, 2020 A "very negative light" would be an upgrade to me. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Max Power 4,112 Posted November 14, 2020 Share Posted November 14, 2020 Declass everything! Its interesting that McCabe seems to recall more information in a CNN interview than he did in front of the panel. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Maurile Tremblay 22,259 Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 What's going in the Mike Flynn case? I've lost track. The full panel reversed the Rao-Henderson writ ordering dismissal, so the case went back to Judge Sullivan to schedule a hearing, and then I don't remember hearing anything after that. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
That one guy 2,145 Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 The Senate is having hearings about this but the stimulus round 2 just couldn’t be done? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HellToupee 15,493 Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 (edited) On 6/5/2017 at 4:12 PM, Gr00vus said: Illegitimate President Trump. asking for a friend Edited November 18, 2020 by HellToupee 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Maurile Tremblay 22,259 Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 On 11/14/2020 at 6:35 PM, Maurile Tremblay said: What's going in the Mike Flynn case? I've lost track. The full panel reversed the Rao-Henderson writ ordering dismissal, so the case went back to Judge Sullivan to schedule a hearing, and then I don't remember hearing anything after that. Never mind. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Max Power 4,112 Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 Now that he he can do interviews, Flynn sounds pretty confident in a second Trump term. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Uwe Blab 822 Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 42 minutes ago, Max Power said: Now that he he can do interviews, Flynn sounds pretty confident in a second Trump term. He’s a QAnon guy, of course he does 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Godsbrother 6,893 Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 10 hours ago, Uwe Blab said: He’s a QAnon guy, of course he does The dude wants the President to declare Martial Law, suspend the Constitution and give control of elections to the military. I am really proud of Trump for pardoning such a great American. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Z Machine 4,750 Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 1 hour ago, Godsbrother said: The dude wants the President to declare Martial Law, suspend the Constitution and give control of elections to the military. I am really proud of Trump for pardoning such a great American. I wonder what he thought when he was in the military and he swore an oath to the constitution. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NorvilleBarnes 3,728 Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 3 hours ago, Godsbrother said: The dude wants the President to declare Martial Law, suspend the Constitution and give control of elections to the military. I don't think this is true. If you're referring to his RT of a controversial post from an Ohio org, then it should be noted that Flynn frequently RTs controversial posts and then @ several others on Twitter to get THEIR reactions. It was not an original post from Flynn. If you're referring to something else then I'm all ears. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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