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ESPN and Expert really don't belong in the same sentence so feeling even better about my optimism for Guice this season.
ESPN and Expert really don't belong in the same sentence so feeling even better about my optimism for Guice this season.
I overpaid a bit because I was 8-9 deep at WR and had only Zeke at RB at the time before moving up in the draft to get CEH/Taylor but this was my deal:
Brandin Cooks and late 2nd (pick 16 I believe) for just Guice
Maybe not great value but I needed RBs badly
I'm not trying to buy Guice but I would easily send Cooks and a 2nd to get him and then maybe try to flip (for me anyway).Has anyone completed a deal to acquire him in dynasty? What did you offer?
Having a hard time gauging his value.
For what though: not seeing much fair value coming back. I figure I may as well hope he strings together 2-3 good games and flip then maybe for a late 1st instead of a random 2nd and shot in the dark lottery ticketI'm not trying to buy Guice but I would easily send Cooks and a 2nd to get him and then maybe try to flip (for me anyway).
FWIW I moved Kerryon for him last offseason. Old deal now but if I recall there was a small rookie pick swap involved that swung me on the deal. And then I flipped Guice (within the hour) for 1.02 (in 2019 - took Sanders) and some other decent piece.
ETA maybe try to flip him to the Gibson owner?
Yeah fair question. If I had him now I would probably want to hold but I could justify getting something less than ideal if it were part of a bigger package where my prime target is something else.For what though: not seeing much fair value coming back. I figure I may as well hope he strings together 2-3 good games and flip then maybe for a late 1st instead of a random 2nd and shot in the dark lottery ticket
The Washington Post reports Derrius Guice was arrested Friday on domestic violence-related charges.
The charges include three counts of assault and battery, destruction of property, and one count of strangulation — a felony charge. It's the latest blow to Guice, who missed 11 games to knee setbacks last year after losing his entire rookie year to ACL surgery. Guice is facing at least a six-game suspension under the NFL's domestic violence policy and is in danger of getting released. Guice's off-field issues clear a path to snaps for Bryce Love and rookie Antonio Gibson.
SOURCE: Washington Post
Aug 7, 2020, 6:25 PM ET
LovesFire up all of your Gibsons
Washington released RB Derrius Guice.
Guice was released following his domestic violence-related arrest. Washington is cutting ties with Guice, but this is another bad look for an organization that's been under fire this offseason. With Guice gone, Washingotn will move forward with Bryce Love and rookie Antonio Gibson competing with Adrian Peterson for snaps. Guice will be facing a minimum six-game suspension if he lands a second chance.
SOURCE: Sam Fortier on Twitter
Aug 7, 2020, 7:02 PM ET
That’s what they taught us in 2018Guilty until proven innocent
I'd be shocked if Freeman(or any RB addition) was on their radar. They already had a ton of RB depth. Between Peterson/Gibson/Love/Barber/McKissic they are more than fine, and its likely one of Barber/McKissic doesn't make the team even with Guice gone.Loves
edited to Update my answer...
Devonta Freeman to the white courtesy phone please.
He and his brethren have given up any right to “innocent until proven guilty” in their collectively bargained employment rules.Guilty until proven innocent
I don't think the current guys ever believed in him. It could also be bad news, meaning what he really did looked worse than words and charges, often seemingly distant and passive in voice.That was fast
If guilty, bury him.Huh. Part of the reason I traded him was because Doug Williams called him a "knucklehead" about his rehab. Didn't sound good then, doesn't sound good now. I hope the victim is okay and that he atones for whatever he has done. I think his dimming star has really crashed, actually, but let's not bury him yet.
That's what I'm holding out for. Both sides before full condemnation. Domestics always look bad, let's see what happened. I say this about almost all criminal cases by the way, and have been noted in the PSF as a "wait and see" guy for all issues like this. The information will drip and drab out like most, and we may wind up with a different picture. Remember Tyreek Hill just a year ago.If guilty, bury him.
Gibson will get way too much of a over reaction from the massesSorry to the victims, hope they are okay.
So what's the Washington backfield look like now? Gibson, Love, Peterson, Barber, McKissic, right? How do we rank them? Where do we draft them?
Ah McKissic, fantasy players are never going to get over you no matter how many times nfl teams give you no work.Gibson will get way too much of a over reaction from the masses
AP is likely the guy
Barber stands to make the team and be annoying to fantasy owners
Love has a big opportunity
McKissic might have value if they give him a lot of receiving work
I’d avoid all in redraft
Dynasty I will go for McKissic at his price. Probably can’t get Love anymore. I’d avoid the rest at their price
Yeah but he’s the cheapest on the list with a high upside. I will go for none of them but I’m certainly not buying Gibson at his price and I have zero interest in the rest except for Love, who is likely over priced now tooAh McKissic, fantasy players are never going to get over you no matter how many times nfl teams give you no work.
He might be the cheapest but that's because there's almost no chance of him getting the starting job. It would have happened already. This isn't sf with a creative offense, this is steady Ron Rivera.Yeah but he’s the cheapest on the list with the highest upside. I will go for none of them but I’m certainly not buying Gibson at my price and I have zero interest in the rest except for Love
He doesn’t need the starting job to be fantasy relevant in this offenseHe might be the cheapest but that's because there's almost no chance of him getting the starting job. It would have happened already. This isn't sf with a creative offense, this is steady Ron Rivera.
That’s a criminal law standard and it applies as far as his criminal case. What a private employer does is up to them.Guilty until proven innocent
3 alleged incidents in the Spring. Not reported to the police until late July.Woof. Just heard on the radio this is his third or fourth incident?
how were the first incidents not widely publicized? I don’t recall hearing anything before this. Crazy.
I feel bad for dynasty owners. He looked so good in college… What a complete waste of a pick. May go down as one of the worst 1.0x ever.
A bit different from being cut due to not having enough talent, but toot awayWhoopsie
No one said he didn't have talent.A bit different from being cut due to not having enough talent, but toot away
Idiots like him usually wake up and think it’s someone else’s faultI bet he woke up the next day and said to himself, "I just threw my life away".
I would disagree with the bolded. The Chiefs cut Kareem Hunt, would you argue he isn't a viable RB?No one said he didn't have talent.
Guice made it easy on them. If they thought he was a viable running back, they would stall, and wait for the legal process to yada yada yada.
He has stacked leg injuries like they were DFS Chiefs, and has behaved like a donkey since BEFORE he was drafted. His ADP before this was comical.
Free agent RB Derrius Guice cleared waivers.
Washington released Guice after he was arrested for domestic violence. Guice will face a lengthy suspension if a team is willing to take the PR hit and sign the running back. It's unlikely that he gets a second chance until his current charges are settled. Guice came into the league with off the field issues, so most teams will have zero interest.
SOURCE: Adam Caplan on Twitter
Aug 9, 2020, 5:52 PM ET