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Apparent,y they were going to show Spanos on the screen after the logo but they cut it after the boos. Spanos made a giant mistake moving to LA. When Rivers is done they're done.They flashed the Chargers logo on the screen during the Clippers game tonight and the whole crowd booed.Spanos is the one who didn't think this through and will have to live with his choice.
I guess the $ spent on hotel tax counts to me the same as any other cost associated with a vacation. The costs of food, entertainment, lodging, etc etc all count toward the cost of the trip. If that puts me in the 1%..... uh, ok. I'm not even sure what you are getting at. What taxes "count" and which taxes don't in your mind?Wildcat said:
I'm getting at your point were you indicate that raising a hotel tax will have a affect on tourism to the point where it will have a negative effect on the local economy. I just don't see that cause and effect. I wouldn't let a hotel tax stop me from taking a trip to San Diego. In fact, I probably wouldn't even care. It wouldn't have been, nor is it ever a factor in my vacation plans.
Just about every economic study done ever on this issue shows that having a pro sports team is not a net positive economic impact for cities. No idea where your info is coming from, but it's not from economists.Catbird said:
To be fair, Charger fans have hated Dean Spanos for a long time, so the decision to move hasn't really affected that basic premise -- just elevated the intensity by a notch.
And to be even more fair, among the biggest reasons fans have hated Dean Spanos for a long is because of the cheap and short sighted decisions he's made.
Not to mention the move of getting rid of Martyball, possibly the most beloved coach in football history.
True, but the SD chargers were loved.
I will never, ever get over getting rid of Marty. That's basically the worst move any team has ever made when talking about head coaches. Still feel sick about it... norv had couple of ok-years with the team Marty built but still, worst move ever.
It all depends on the deal but generally a NFL stadium is a net loser. At issue is the owners are SO greedy that a shiny free new stadium isn't enough. Oh no, they want some of the concession, parking, tax, money too. For the hundredth time, screw the NFL.
This one's been done to death, I was chuckling to see people trying to trot out that old chestnut. Let's get @St. Louis Bob in here to tell us about what a great boon publicly funding a stadium for the Rams was for St. Louis.
Also, I don't understand the quibbling about what kind of tax we're talking about. It's still a tax, the intention of which is to build a stadium for a highly profitable private business that could easily fund the project without public monies. Should be a non starter, and I'm glad the people in San Diego pushed back - just like the people of Los Angeles did. Remember, this only happened because Kronke built the stadium in L.A with private money on land he owned. I guess maybe the suckers in Carson would have caved, but we'll never know.
Even with multiple superbowls factored into the equation???
"'By comparison, other billion dollar facilities – like a major shopping center or large manufacturing plant – will employ many more people and generate substantially more revenue and taxes,' Noll said."
I may be the only one old enough to remember the film "the Jerk" but does anyone else remember the gas station scene with Steve Martin?
Christopher Udry had the most interesting comment there. He pointed out that Museums and Concert halls also probably cost taxpayers more than any benefit gained. An angle not usually taken.
Did anyone ask Udry how many museums cost half a billion dollars, and are actually being used about a dozen DAYS a year? JFC, these apologists for billionaires are shameless.
wait until the raiders home game and its 90% raider fans......
It's kind of spectacular really, and keep in mind they were only 0-1 and 0-2 when selling these tickets. I'm betting most of those tickets were sold before it was painfully obvious what type of team telesco and the spanos family had built. Just imagine what that minor league stadium will look like when this team is 2-8. Gordon and Allen haven't even had their annual season ending injuries yet.
I would have guessed that was a quote from every "visiting" DLman, having just played against the chargers OL.
What a bunch of morons.
