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The Trump Years- Every day something more shocking than the last! (15 Viewers)
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adonis
Footballguy
Trump has already shown us what he thinks of those military folks from other countries, especially those who say anything slightly negative about him, when he took on Khizr Khan and his wife. Just one of many disgusting moments Trump had during his campaign.
adonis
Footballguy
And if the baby isn't evil now, could certainly grow up into whatever the Iranian translation equivalent of "bad hombre" is.
And yes, that is our president literally talking to Mexican leaders saying "bad hombre" and threatening another country with us sending our military in.
It's absolutely insane that this kind of stuff is real, but what's more, that so few people are becoming "unhinged" or "melting down" because of it. It's worth of removing one's hinges from this Trump door. The stuff that's happening is worthy of melting down and reforging ourselves into something not so broken or corrupted.
BustedKnuckles
Footballguy
well thats good ...at least they arent on some random message board just talking about fighting the good fight
SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
Cowboysfan8
Footballguy
timschochet
Footballguy
GROOT
Footballguy
Reg Lllama of Brixton
Footballguy
Man of Constant Sorrow
Footballguy
No offense Tim, but it appears to me that everyone is melting down right now.
However, it is not necessarily a bad thing imo...system shock can be creative in th elong run.
Henry Ford
Footballguy
Henry Ford
Footballguy
Eephus
Footballguy
SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
Totally forgot about that movie.No offense Tim, but it appears to me that everyone is melting down right now.
However, it is not necessarily a bad thing imo...system shock can be creative in th elong run.
SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
Somehow I think connecting these two things pro or con is a mistake and it's almost entirely seen from the Trumpites.
The Trumpites seems to think that their perception that "the left" is "melting down" means they are "winning."
It's weird to me - Trump told them they never win, yet here they basically just poll vaulted over the Dems to clutch a USSC seat. Did Trump do this? No, McConnell did that. Aside from that it's amazing how much damage Trump is doing trashing allies and domestic tranquility and international goodwill and cooperation for things they could have gotten with any other Republican... with far less damage. But hey, they never won right? And now they do? Because the left is melting down? Ok, thereyago.
And maybe the "left" should be melting down. Arguably they lost from apathy, and Trump seems like the perfect cure for that. Here the GOP won more state seats than ever, more governorships than ever, more House and Senate seats than ever (almost), without Trump, and here is Trump giving the opposition the one thing they lacked, motivation. But hey, winning. Maybe melting down is winning, consider that.
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Courtjester
The Town Drunk
Because no one here is interested in listening.
I have been here forever (reminding you I am #162 here and was a veteran at Old Yeller) and I don't frankly feel the need to make my opinion known on every little thing. I have attempted on multiple occasions to discuss Trump here and despite never having a beef with any of you, I am called stupid, racist or even worse. Why even bother attempting conversations here when that is the end conclusion?
You guys seriously have to stop. Every little story about Trump--real or imagined is reported here and half turn out to be untrue. I mean it is like living with Baghdad Bob with the media coverage here. Tonight CBS's top story is about the mission in Yemen and you can just hear the loaded language used in that report. Even you most die hard Trump haters have to at least acknowledge that Obama probably green-lighted hundreds of mission where soldiers were lost, but can you remember a network so actively putting the faces of those lost soldiers on the top story of the news for political gain? Frankly I wish they would have because these brave men and women deserve that respect. But honestly Trump approves the mission and a guy is lost=bad. Trump says no to the mission and you guys would have said he doesn't trust the generals.
It is so frustrating that a site that I remember looking at throughout the past 20 years has dissolved into this. We used to have fun here. A beef was settled in a few choice words and no more, but now we have pages upon pages of just flat out nastiness. If Trump is voted out in 2020, I literally will act like I did throughout the Obama years, I didn't attack any of you then because of who you voted for, and I wouldn't do it in the future. .
I have been a paid subscriber here forever because I believed that even though the content wasn't the best (and this year was kind of bad), my money was well spent to support these forums, but I am probably taking my money and I know most of the multiple leagues I am in. that use this site for info, elsewhere. Now you are saying "Oh godness, Joe will really miss that $600.00
" He obviously won't, but it is just disappointing what has become of this place.I am sure if I look back tomorrow this thread will be 8 pages longer with new imagined Trump outrage. I already see CNN has scintillating pieces on how bad his necktie and signatures are on the front page.
Trump is the president. If you don't like it, don't insult those that exercised their right to vote--find a young energetic Democrat to take him down in 2020.
I hope you all have a good night no matter what you think of me.
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Henry Ford
Footballguy
This thread needs a hysterectomy.
Henry Ford
Footballguy
I agree. I'm donating mine to the victims of the Bowling Green Massacre instead.Because no one here is interested in listening.
I have been here forever (reminding you I am #162 here and was a veteran at Old Yeller) and I don't frankly feel the need to make my opinion known on every little thing. I have attempted on multiple occasions to discuss Trump here and despite never having a beef with any of you, I am called stupid, racist or even worse. Why even bother attempting conversations here when that is the end conclusion?
You guys seriously have to stop. Every little story about Trump--real or imagined is reported here and half turn out to be untrue. I mean it is like living with Baghdad Bob with the media coverage here. Tonight CBS's top story is about the mission in Yemen and you can just hear the loaded language used in that report. Even you most die hard Trump haters have to at least acknowledge that Obama probably green-lighted hundreds of mission where soldiers were lost, but can you remember a network so actively putting the faces of those lost soldiers on the top story of the news for political gain? Frankly I wish they would have because these brave men and women deserve that respect. But honestly Trump approves the mission and a guy is lost=bad. Trump says no to the mission and you guys would have said he doesn't trust the generals.
It is so frustrating that a site that I remember looking at throughout the past 20 years has dissolved into this. We used to have fun here. A beef was settled in a few choice words and no more, but now we have pages upon pages of just flat out nastiness. If Trump is voted out in 2020, I literally will act like I did throughout the Obama years, I didn't attack any of you then because of who you voted for, and I wouldn't do it in the future. .
I have been a paid subscriber here forever because I believed that even though the content wasn't the best (and this year was kind of bad), my money was well spent to support these forums, but I am probably taking my money and I know most of the multiple leagues I am in. that use this site for info, elsewhere. Now you are saying "Oh godness, Joe will really miss that $600.00
I am sure if I look back tomorrow this thread will be 8 pages longer with new imagined Trump outrage. I already see CNN has scintillating pieces on how bad his necktie and signatures are on the front page.
Trump is the president. If you don't like it, don't insult those that exercised their right to vote--find a young energetic Democrat to take him down in 2020.
I hope you all have a good night no matter what you think of me.
timschochet
Footballguy
It's astonishing that you could write this without irony. The answer is of course I can remember it. There was a network obsessed with the deaths of 4 Americans and spent nearly two years featuring it as their #1 story.
Courtjester
The Town Drunk
Are you referencing Benghazi? That wasn't a special ops military mission green lighted by a president and is completely irrelevant to this.
Obama sent troops in harms way and they did their jobs and did great things. He got OBL for goodness sake.
Henry Ford
Footballguy
And didn't try to prove how great his op was by releasing a "retrieved" video that's been circulated for several years?
Courtjester
The Town Drunk
Did the Trump people release that video? I mean I am asking seriously. CBS and ABC said the military released it. CBS's words were to "justify the raid the military presented a video which was actively available years before"
Regardless of that Henry, did the media scrutinize every Obama authorized raid? I think Obama did a good job taking out ISIS, but I guess I just missed the coverage of every soldier lost in these raids--and I means pictures and bios and such every night.
FishTacoTuesday
Footballguy
Henry Ford
Footballguy
That may be a matter of your political perspective. Yes, they did. Partially because Obama lifted the gag order of soldiers dying that Bush put in place.
If Obama had skipped the situation room and a soldier had died we would have heard about it every day for a year and there would have been 6 congressional hearings followed by Ted Cruz standing up and proclaiming he should be impeached.
FishTacoTuesday
Footballguy
A courtjester is supposed to be funny, but I guess that's not always the case. 
gianmarco
Footballguy
Plus, the significance of this is that it was the first one of his presidency. Of course it's going to be scrutinized more than most.
Courtjester
The Town Drunk
And you are right in this comment, but not to play what ifs, Trump doesn't okay it, are you or any of the other anti-Trump crowd going to give him the benefit of the doubt and not say "Well here he goes not listening to his generals?:"
I mean the over/under of people re-quoting his stupid quote (yeah I called it that) I know more than the generals statement has to be 10-12 would you say?
gianmarco
Footballguy
Honestly, this whole thing ranks incredibly low on my list of things to hate about Trump's first two weeks. It's a relative non story to me for a few reasons:
1) We will never know the true details of what did or didn't happen
2) We will never know if the mission was considered a true success or not.
3) We will never know how much of this is related to Obama and how much to Trump.
I would say that the only thing I would care about this story is if Trump strayed from normal convention and that resulted in a poor outcome as a direct result. Or if he broke tradition of where and when he should be someplace or doing something. And since there have been conflicting reports on all of that, it's mostly a single wrong note amongst a symphony of other colossal blunders.
For example, today, I'm much more concerned about his repeal of Dodd-Frank, especially with his ####ty reasoning for it. It's a disgrace. And that's just today.
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John Maddens Lunchbox
Socialism for Dummies
If Donald is the President and Mickey is the Vice President, where does Goofy fit into this administration?
massraider
Footballguy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5UY86HapnjU
MSNBC interview with Harvard law professor explaining why this dip$hit's executive order was a trainwreck and was overturned by a federal judge.
MSNBC interview with Harvard law professor explaining why this dip$hit's executive order was a trainwreck and was overturned by a federal judge.
Mario Kart
Footballguy
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[scooter]
Footballguy
It seems like all Trump has to do is say "This is good for business and jobs" and his supporters will lap it up.
pollardsvision
Footballguy
This is a pretty interesting strategy for Bud. I think it's probably smart.
What, 40% of people in the country like Trump? Obviously, a large number of current Bud drinkers are in that 40%, so that might seem dangerous. Those guys can easily switch to Coors Banquet (growing of late, with a face that Trumpkins love in Sam Elliot), but they are also just as likely to switch to Busch and Natty Light (the ones that haven't already) not knowing that's AB too.
But Bud sales have been falling off for a long time, and it probably makes more sense to go after some of that other 60% if they can. May seem a stretch, but hipsters and other snowflakes do like piss beer. With PBR prices going through the roof, Bud heavy could be primed to be the next hipster beer.
I normally drink Coors Banquet for my piss beer allotment, but I do pick up a case of Bud every couple of months. I'll probably pick one up today for the hell of it.
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FUBAR
Footballguy
Frankly my dear, I don't give a damn.
The President could be on the back 9 when he gets the call. He should need a quick brief and give the ok. Yes, it's his decision, but the experts / Proffesionals should be doing their job well enough that the call is basically notifying him that there could be some political backlash. (And the political issues are his to decide) he doesn't (shouldn't) stop the raid because he's concerned we could lose a soldier, he might stop it because of a political decision the generals don't get to decide. Strategy and politics are his perview.
From what I've read, this raid was a success regardless of CENTCOM and the pentagon releasing an old video to exemplify the benefits of these types of actions.
But the bigger picture is the issue here. Is anyone convinced that the president understands all of the dynamics at play? That he understands that area enough to know the potential political fallout? A lot of this is predictions and guesswork, but I never doubted the decisions Obama, bush, or Clinton made because they seemed to be educated enough to make the best decision possible at the time.
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Captain Cranks
Footballguy
They're on Facebook clogging my news feed with fake outrage at the fake outrage. Ask Max. He knows all about it.
Captain Cranks
Footballguy
Lest we forget that rarely did anyone engage in an intelligent defense of Trump during his campaign. Why would we expect to have a reasoned debate with them now just because he's sworn in?
SlipperyOdell
Footballguy
10 minute video of violence against Trump supporters
https://twitter.com/TweetBrettMac/status/827418352645709824
https://twitter.com/TweetBrettMac/status/827418352645709824
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Dedfin
Footballguy
So CJ doesn't hesitate to rub the win people's faces, and now he complains that anti-Trumpkins are playing too rough. @Courtjester you should follow your fellow Trumpkin's advice, and find a safe space/stop being a snowflake, etc. This is politics now.
GoBirds
Footballguy
James Daulton
Footballguy
Or you have to be a complete douche bag to get sued so much.Because you have to have a legit case to file a lawsuit?
Enjoy the ride snowflakes!
Going to be a quick 3 1/2 years and then the era of rule by the uneducated will come to an abrupt end.
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Brony
Footballguy
I think Trump probably won the election, but I do find it odd (or mad genius) that he is disputing the outcome. If all of the Oscar critics predict La LaLand will win and then Superman v Batman wins, would people walk away say "interesting" or would they say "maybe there was some funny business that we don' know about"?
GoBirds
Footballguy
Yeah you guys seem to be taking it great. Hate to break it to you but you are 2 week in not 6 months.....embrace that extra 5 and a half months.
RBM
Footballguy
GoBirds
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