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18 minutes ago, kodycutter said:

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Adoree Jackson currently set to arrive in New Jersey on Sunday night for his Giants' free agent visit, which will carry over and continue into Monday, source confirms.

 

Giants get this guy they are going to be in really good shape 

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Probably the worst GM in football

Great news both for Saquon and Jones.

Ogletree seems to be a guy who has a reputation with fans around the league that far exceeds what people who watch him closely see. I think it's because for such a long time, he was included among the

2 hours ago, RC94 said:

Contracts like this are why they always have little cap space and yet have still managed to accumulate one of the worst records in the NFL over the last 5 years.  No question Golladay improves this team, but it's not just about that.  Always spending big in free agency is not the right way to build a team IMO.  Gettleman can't draft well either, though, so all of this combined and we get one of the worst teams in the league under his watch.

It would be nice to see the front office be more proactive with their own players.

Tomlinson is a guy they could have kept for cheaper than what he signed for in Minnesota, if they were proactive and looked to sign him to a long-term deal after his 3rd season.

They have that opportunity now with Engram & Peppers. If they think those guys are going to be part of the future it would be wise to be proactive and sign them long term, before they are set to hit the free agent market.

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There's no doubt Gettleman blinked here. Big overpay in a down cap year that make you wonder why they did all the other ancillary signings to begin with. Rudolph was nice, but Kaden Smith had flashed plus you could've went after Pitts at TE (starting to drop in mocks after being pushed into the Top 7).

 

Now the question is, who are the Giants drafting in the 1st? Edge rusher or maybe one of the top 2 CBs?

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2 hours ago, Yenrub said:

Engram & Rudolph) 

I’m wondering if they’ll be asking the TEs to do more blocking this year. 

Neither are great at it, but Rudolph is better than Engram IIRC. 

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2 hours ago, BobbyLayne said:

general vicinity will do - KG is pretty awesome  on 50/50 balls

just need a QB willing to throw into tight windows bc his separation is below average 

He showed that willingness a lot last season. Unfortunately there were quite a few times that Slayton gave up on his deep routes, & way too many drops by the entire receiving corps. 

And without security blanket dump-off Saquan, DJ was a sitting duck way too often. 

I watched way too many Giants games last year & I’m actually getting excited to see what this team can do. On paper they’re a top half of the league offense if they can get some OL help in the draft. And of course, as others have pointed out, if DJ takes that leap forward. 

I truly believe Jones showed growth last season. It wasn’t always easy to see the trees for the forest since they struggled often, but IMO that tough year was a trial by fire for DJ & he’s gonna have a leap forward this year. 

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On 3/14/2021 at 11:08 AM, monk said:

They need a guard more than they need a tackle ... Just saying people believe he is athletic enough to play either 

Sick of passing on studs becaus ethey are gaurds ...Quenten Nelson , Sherff,  Martin ... if they need a lineman (they do) ...they should consider.

Pugh was a terrible pick no matter how you look at it 

starting to come around on Slater being a possibility at #11 after the Kenny G signing. particularly if we can get Adoree to sign.   These skill position additions will mean nothing if the OL doesn't progress.

 

KG's cap hit this year has been reported around $4.6mm.   $21mm in years 2/3/4 - I have no idea how that works, but should have room for Adoree if he wants it here.   He's tight with Logan Ryan, so we got a chance.

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I'd love Slater at 1.11 (based on current draft evaluations).  In general I want them to improve the line of scrimmage on both sides in this draft.

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Its all about the Hog Mollies, especially if they sign Jackson. Do they go pass rush in the first, or do they think recent picks like Ximines and Lorenzo Carter can step up? Perhaps something like

1. DE/Edge

2. OL

3. DT

followed by BPA, but leaning towards OL and DL depth. Probably take another CB and WR in there somewhere.

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The #Giants are signing CB Adoree Jackson, per source. They got him.

 

Shefter: details

3yr/39

Signing bonus: $13.5 million. Total guaranteed: $26.5 million. Year 1 total: $16 million. Deal worth up to $44.5 million with incentives.

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Giants signed CB Adoree' Jackson, formerly of the Titans, to a three-year, $39 million contract.

The deal includes $26.5 million guaranteed, which is just shy of Shaq Griffin's guaranteed money ($29 million) among this year's class of available corners. Initially scheduled to collect $10 million before being cut by the Titans, 25-year-old Jackson will instead receive $16 million in the first year of his deal with the Giants. Injuries have plagued him the past two seasons but Jackson has still proven to be one of the fastest and most athletic players at any position on the field when at full strength; playing across from lockdown CB James Bradberry should only highlight those traits. No matter its results on offense, New York's defense is set to be an improved unit in 2021.

- Adam Schefter, Twitter

Holy overpay, Batman.

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Good Lord now I see where they got some of the money

https://twitter.com/DDuggan21/status/1374090033435717634
 

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Dan Duggan @DDuggan21

Finally have the terms on the Nate Solder pay cut and it's even better for the Giants than initially expected. Solder's 2021 salary has been cut to $3M, which is fully guaranteed, per source. That's down from $10M. Cap charge is $9.5M, a $7M savings...

Solder's 2022 salary also cut to $3M (none guaranteed). His salary had been $10M in 2022. He had a $4M roster bonus in 2022 that has been wiped away, so his cap hit drops to $7M in 2022 (had been $18M)...

So, it's essentially a new two-year, $6M deal with $3M guaranteed (but the remaining $10.5M in bonus prorations from the previous deal still count on the cap). That's a STEEP pay cut...

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2 hours ago, Uncle Leo said:

It ended up being a great off-season for the Giants. The draft will be fun for once. Looking forward to the season. It’s been almost a decade since I felt that way. 
 

 

Excited to see what Patrick Graham can do with the D now.    Secondary looks nice with bradberry, jackson, holmes. peppers. ryan, mckinney.    don't have to play so much zone if he doesn't want to.

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1 hour ago, kodycutter said:

Excited to see what Patrick Graham can do with the D now.    Secondary looks nice with bradberry, jackson, holmes. peppers. ryan, mckinney.    don't have to play so much zone if he doesn't want to.

How dare you leave Sam Beal off your list!!! 🤣

PFF has Jackson as their 4th rated CB in man to man coverage on the outside since 2018. Patrick Graham is going to give offenses fits this season. 

The draft will be interesting. Will they sure up the OL? Do they get a pass rusher? Will they trade down?

 

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20 minutes ago, Yenrub said:

How dare you leave Sam Beal off your list!!! 🤣

PFF has Jackson as their 4th rated CB in man to man coverage on the outside since 2018. Patrick Graham is going to give offenses fits this season. 

The draft will be interesting. Will they sure up the OL? Do they get a pass rusher? Will they trade down?

 

Initially I was looking at Farley/Surtain but with Jackson the Giants have a legit 3 deep at corner (Holmes in the slot and Beal probably will spell Bradberry every now and then). So now I think the only two paths the Giants have is OL or Edge rusher, which means Rosseau or Slater/Sewell? If we believe Gettleman is going all-in for Jones, they'll go OL. Of course, this is Gettleman so he'll probably draft LB Micah Parsons.

 

EDIT: I forgot Julian Love at CB, I wonder if the Giants are still serious about that.

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Giants signed OLB Ryan Anderson, formerly of the Football Team, to a one-year contract.

Anderson, 26, recorded six sacks in 52 games for Washington over the past four seasons. He played rush linebacker in Nick Saban’s 3-4 defense, earning first-team All-SEC in his senior season at Alabama. Anderson now joins a Giants pass rush rated by Pro Football Focus as 2020's 18th best.

- Field Yates, Twitter

Really cheap solid signing. He's a 3-4 OLB/Edge guy and WFT ran a 4-3 last year which didn't fit him.

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18 hours ago, The Frankman said:

Initially I was looking at Farley/Surtain but with Jackson the Giants have a legit 3 deep at corner (Holmes in the slot and Beal probably will spell Bradberry every now and then). So now I think the only two paths the Giants have is OL or Edge rusher, which means Rosseau or Slater/Sewell? If we believe Gettleman is going all-in for Jones, they'll go OL. Of course, this is Gettleman so he'll probably draft LB Micah Parsons.

 

EDIT: I forgot Julian Love at CB, I wonder if the Giants are still serious about that.

If Micah Parsons is there and Slater is not ...you absolutely take Parsons ... ! If they are both there it's a tough decison !!!

Parsons is a game changer, great in RUN or PASS and a Great Pass Rusher great off the edge

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Rudolph : potential issue

Mike Garafolo

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There’s a snag in the #Giants’ addition of TE Kyle Rudolph. Sources say the team’s medical staff is concerned with Rudolph’s foot after his physical and believes he’ll need surgery. The sides are discussing how to proceed. The two-year deal was agreed to but not yet signed.

 

 

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15 hours ago, kodycutter said:

Rudolph : potential issue

Mike Garafolo

@MikeGarafolo

There’s a snag in the #Giants’ addition of TE Kyle Rudolph. Sources say the team’s medical staff is concerned with Rudolph’s foot after his physical and believes he’ll need surgery. The sides are discussing how to proceed. The two-year deal was agreed to but not yet signed.

 

 

that sux ...maybe the Eagles will release Ertz if they cant trade him

 

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2 hours ago, monk said:

that sux ...maybe the Eagles will release Ertz if they cant trade him

 

Looks like Rudolph signed

Mike Garafolo

OK so here’s the resolution on #Giants TE Kyle Rudolph, according to sources: —He’ll soon have surgery on his foot. —The medical issue that raised a flag in the physical will be addressed. —Team honors the contract it agreed to. —Contract signed. —Rudolph ready for Week 1.

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The Athletic: The Giants had no cap space; here’s how they spent $200 million on free agents

.Very good article by Duggan, if you don't have access to the Athletic I copy-pasted it for you.
 

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The salary cap outlook was grim across the NFL this offseason. Lost revenues from COVID-19 caused the cap, which was projected to be around $210 million before the pandemic, to plummet to $182.5 million.

The Giants were caught in that crunch. Or so it seemed. They were projected to be $8 million over the cap when the $182.5 million figure was finalized on March 10. The front office, led by assistant general manager and cap expert Kevin Abrams, got to work.

Over the past two weeks, the Giants have managed to award contracts to three players — wide receiver Kenny Golladay, defensive lineman Leonard Williams and cornerback Adoree’ Jackson — worth a combined $174 million.

So how did they afford their unexpected spending spree? Here’s a step-by-step look at the moves the Giants made to make room for their expensive additions:

1. WR Golden Tate released (March 3). Cutting the veteran wide receiver two years into his four-year, $37.5 million contract resulted in $6.1 million in cap savings with $4.7 million in dead money.

Cumulative cap space created: $6.1 million.

(Note: The actual savings is $6.1 million minus the cost of the player who replaced Tate in the top-51 cap accounting, which is approximately $850,000. But we’re already getting pretty deep into the salary-cap weeds here, so we’ll just use the total savings from the cut player to give an approximate reflection of the savings.)

2. LB David Mayo released (March 3). Cutting the backup linebacker one year into his three-year, $8.4 million contract resulted in $2.3 million in cap savings with no dead money.

Cumulative cap space created: $8.4 million.

3. WR Cody Core released (March 8). Cutting the wide receiver, who is recovering from a torn Achilles, one year into his two-year, $4 million contract resulted in $2 million in cap savings with no dead money.

Cumulative cap space created: $10.4 million.

4. TE Levine Toilolo pay cut (March 8). Toilolo’s cap charge dropped from $2.95 million to $1.6 million with the pay cut, creating $1.35 million in cap savings. Toilolo gained $650,000 in guarantees, which increases his odds of sticking on the roster.

Cumulative cap space created: $11.75 million.

5. OL Kevin Zeitler released (March 10). Cutting the starting right guard with one-year remaining on his contract resulted in $12 million in cap savings with $2.5 million in dead money.

Cumulative cap space created: $23.75 million.

6. OL Nate Solder pay cut (March 16). Solder’s cap charge dropped from $16.5 million to $9.5 million with the pay cut, which slashed his salary from $10 million to $3 million (fully guaranteed). A $6.5 million cap charge remained from prorated bonuses from the four-year, $62 million contract Solder signed in 2018. The final year of Solder’s contract was voided, so he’ll become a free agent after the season and the Giants will eat $4 million in dead money in 2022.

Cumulative cap space created: $30.75 million

7. DL Leonard Williams extension (March 16). The Giants franchise-tagged Williams on March 9. The tag carried a $19.4 million cap charge for 2021. The sides reached an agreement on a three-year, $61 million extension on the second day of free agency. The backloaded contract lowered Williams’ 2021 cap hit to $11 million for a cap savings of $8.4 million. Williams’ cap hits are $26.5 million in 2022 and $25.5 million in 2023.

Cumulative cap space created: $39.15 million

8. CB James Bradberry restructure (March 24). The Giants “kicked the can” to create immediate cap space by restructuring Bradberry’s contract: $8 million of his $13.9 million salary for 2021 was converted into a signing bonus, which gets prorated over the two remaining years on his contract. The restructure created $4 million in cap savings by lowering Bradberry’s 2021 cap hit from $17 million to $13 million. Conversely, his 2022 cap hit increased from $16.5 million to $20.5 million. There’s no downside to the restructure for a player. He gets the same amount of money he was already due and typically gets it sooner in a lump sum rather than in weekly paychecks during the season.

Cumulative cap space created: $43.15 million

9. LB Blake Martinez restructure (March 24). The Giants did the same type of restructure with Martinez, converting $7 million of his $8.1 million salary for 2021 into a signing bonus. That created $3.5 million in cap savings by lowering Martinez’s 2021 cap hit from $10.2 million to $6.7 million. His 2022 cap hit increased from $10.5 million to $14 million.

Cumulative cap space created: $46.65 million

It only took nine relatively simple moves to clear $46.65 million in cap space. Cutting the steady Zeitler from an unproven offensive line was the toughest pill to swallow, and it likely wouldn’t have happened if the cap didn’t plummet.

The most important — and challenging — step was reaching an agreement with Williams. Having a $19.4 million charge from the franchise tag on the cap was going to be restrictive. Ultimately, Williams landed the lucrative long-term deal he was seeking and the team got some much-needed, immediate cap relief.

The Giants took the $46.65 million in cap savings and used it to sign 12 free agents with a cumulative cap charge of $34 million for 2021. That figure doesn’t include the cap hits for Jackson, who signed a three-year, $39 million contract, and defensive end Ifeadi Odenigbo, who signed a one-year, $2.5 million contract. When those contract details become official, the total cap charge from the free-agent signings should equal roughly $44 million.

Though the Giants may have been more aggressive due to the depressed cap, none of the moves listed above — releases, pay cuts, restructures — are unusual. The Giants make those maneuvers every offseason to get their cap in the best possible shape.

But there were three measures the Giants used this offseason to stretch their cap space as much as possible that were departures from their standard operating procedures:

1. The Giants structured contracts to have significant gaps between the cap hits in Year 1 and future years.

It’s been standard practice for the Giants to have lower cap hits in the first year of long-term deals. For instance, Solder had a $10 million cap hit in the first year of the contract he signed in 2018. His cap hits jumped to $12 million, $19.5 million and $20.5 million in subsequent years. But the Giants made the contrasts far greater in the contracts they handed out this year. Williams’ cap hit is $11 million this year before jumping to $26.5 million in 2022 and $25.5 million in 2023. Golladay’s cap hit this year is just $4.5 million before jumping to $21.15 million in 2022, $21.4 million in 2023 and $21.4 million in 2024.

It’s easy to structure contracts to minimize the Year 1 cap hits. The players get a base salary at or near the minimum in Year 1 (around $1 million). The salaries then increase significantly in subsequent years. Signing bonuses are prorated evenly over the life of a contract, so Williams’ $22.5 million signing bonus only has a $7.5 million cap charge in 2021. Combined with his $3.5 million base salary, his cap hit is $11 million. The same $7.5 million cap charge from the signing bonus exists in 2022, but his cap hit rises significantly because his base salary jumps to $19 million.

Players don’t mind the lower salaries in the first year because they get the signing bonus up front, so they’re receiving a substantial payment in Year 1. The Giants typically guarantee most/all of the lucrative Year 2 salaries in big contracts, so the players get the majority of the guaranteed money within two years of signing.

The Giants still would prefer to structure “flat” contracts, where the cap hits are relatively even year to year. That’s the “pay as you go” method, which eschews bonus prorations and leaves no dead money if a player is cut/traded during a contract. But they couldn’t switch to that approach while adding talent this offseason due to the cap constraints.

2. The Giants joined the “void year” fad this offseason. Golladay’s four-year contract includes a fifth “dummy” year. The purpose is to spread his signing-bonus proration over the maximum five years to lower the cap hit in each year. So Golladay’s $17 million signing bonus will count $3.4 million on the cap in each of the next five years.

The benefit: The Giants save $850,000 per year on the cap over the next four years. The downside: The Giants will have $3.4 million counting on the cap in 2025 when Golladay is no longer on the roster (unless he signs an extension).

Void years aren’t new. The Saints have used them for years to stretch their cap hits. But they’ve become more popular this year because teams are so desperate for cap space. The Giants joined the club with Golladay’s contract.

3. The most creative change the Giants made was instituting early roster-bonus triggers in Golladay’s contract. He has a $4.5 million roster bonus in 2022, a $4.5 million roster bonus in 2023 and a $3.5 million roster bonus in 2024.

Typically, roster bonuses are triggered if a player is on the roster on the third day of that league year. The change with Golladay’s contract is that his 2022 and 2023 roster bonuses are guaranteed for injury at signing, which means he’ll collect that $9 million even if he’s released after suffering a major injury. The $4.5 million 2022 roster bonus is paid if he’s on the roster on the first day of the 2022 league year. The twist is that his $4.5 million 2023 roster bonus becomes fully guaranteed if he’s on the roster on the third day of the 2022 league year. The $3.5 million 2024 roster bonus reverts to the typical structure: He earns it if he’s on the roster on the third day of the 2024 league year.

All of those accounting maneuvers essentially guaranteed Golladay an additional $9 million at signing — there’s no chance the Giants will cut him after one season — without putting it into a signing bonus that would be prorated and therefore increase the Year 1 cap hit. Roster bonuses count fully on the cap in the year they’re earned with no proration.

Abrams likely needs an appointment with a chiropractor after stretching the numbers as much as he did this offseason.

If the Giants could create this much cap space this year, an obvious question is why don’t they do the same moves to the extreme every offseason? The answer is that the bill eventually comes due for teams that continuously kick the can down the road.(Note by The Frankman: This is what Gettleman talked about not doing when he was hired a.k.a getting into a situation like the Cowboys with a lot of dead cap money. It's notable due the salary crunches they're doing it now)

The Saints had to cut quality players and let others leave in free agency because of their lack of cap space this year. The problem with their approach was exacerbated by the cap, which had been increasing by roughly $10 million per year, dropping $17 million this year.

The Giants are obviously banking on the cap rising in the coming years due to the NFL securing over $100 billion in new media deals last week. Those deals should cause the cap to skyrocket in the future, but they don’t officially kick in until 2023. So it’s not clear how 2022 will be impacted since there are still losses from 2020 that will be offset next year.

Over The Cap projects a $203 million cap for 2022. The Giants currently have $187 million in cap charges committed to 38 players in 2022. They can play the restructure game again with players like Williams and Golladay to create more space, but then they would be further inflating the cap hits in already backloaded contracts.

The Giants have spent big in free agency in recent years because of how poorly they’ve drafted. Wide receiver Sterling Shepard (four years, $41 million) is the only Giants draft pick on a second contract with the team.

The Giants will likely need to start budgeting for extensions for their own young players. Tight end Evan Engram, safety Jabrill Peppers and the 2018 draft class are set to hit free agency next offseason, although the team will control running back Saquon Barkley’s fifth-year option for 2022.

The 2019 draft class will be eligible for extensions next offseason. The Giants are hoping quarterback Daniel Jones performs well enough this season to command an extension. But if he does, their cap outlook will change since franchise quarterback contracts are exorbitant.

The Giants showed this offseason that teams always have methods to create cap space. But they need their big investments to pay off because the cap can only be stretched so far and the Giants have gone all-in with a handful of players over the next few seasons.

 

 

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4 hours ago, NorrisB said:

Gettleman doing a fantastic job, Giants going into the draft with no obvious weaknesses.

DG has done enough so that the Giants have flexibility with the #11 pick, but they still have obvious weaknesses. Pass rusher and OL are still huge issues for the Giants.

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1 hour ago, The Frankman said:

The Athletic: The Giants had no cap space; here’s how they spent $200 million on free agents

.Very good article by Duggan, if you don't have access to the Athletic I copy-pasted it for you.
 

 

 

Good info, thanks for posting. Duggan does pretty good work on the Giants beat.

The article lets me know that if the Giants wanted to keep Tomlinson they could have.

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3 hours ago, Yenrub said:

DG has done enough so that the Giants have flexibility with the #11 pick, but they still have obvious weaknesses. Pass rusher and OL are still huge issues for the Giants.

That can  and should be addressed with the 1st 2 picks in the draft maybe even the first 3 or 4 ... it's really all they need 

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49 minutes ago, monk said:

That can  and should be addressed with the 1st 2 picks in the draft maybe even the first 3 or 4 ... it's really all they need 

I don’t think that they should be out of the WR market just yet nor the CB market for that matter

All of the top WR on the roster with the exception of Slayton have had injury issues lately. Golladay with the hip, Shepard with concussions, I’m not sure what Ross’ injuries were but he only played 3 games last season and has never played a full 16 game season. Dante Pettis I believe has had some knee issues and like Ross he has never played a full 16 game season.

On the other side, while I like Adore Jackson he has only played 14 games total over the last 2 seasons because of injury.

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13 hours ago, Yenrub said:

Captain Obvious …I mean Bill Polian says the Giants need to address the OL in the draft

https://www.bigblueview.com/2021/3/30/22358613/bill-polian-giants-have-to-add-to-offensive-line

Giants need to add 2 versitle olineman in the first 3 rds 

If it come down to Micah Parsons and Slater @ 11 that would be a great problem ... I'd probably go with Parsons because of his versitality on defense but I'd be fine with Slater who could play Guard or Tackle

2nd pick I'd be targeting Creed Humphrey or Landon Dickerson either could probably play C or G ... Quinn Meinerz is a guy who is rising and could compete at either G or C but it would probably be to early to take him in the 2nd (Gates could compete at G or C ...he would probably be our best G if he were beat out at C) 

Wyatt Davis is a G that will likely be avilable in the 2nd maybe early 3rd ?  

if the Giants could pull off Parsons, Humphryey or Dickerson, Meinerz or Davis in the 1st 3 rds I'd be pretty happy

Another intriguing guy is Walter Little who was a dominant 5 star T prospect but hasnt played much over the past couple of seasons because of injuries. He said he is willing to play G or T at the next level but hard to believe that he would be ready to play right away due to lack of experience. If he is available in the 3rd rd that would be tempting

 

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PFN MOCK DRAFT SIMULATOR

11. Micah Parsons LB Penn State (Slater went 12) 

42. Landon Dickerson OC Alabama (Humphrey went 22, Wyatt Davis 34) 

76. Quinn Meinerz OC Wisconsin-Whitewater (Little was available) 

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Parsons reportedly had some off field issues at Penn State.   Not sure I'd take him at #11, but what do I know...there were reportedly red flags on Deandre Baker too and DG traded up for him.     

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From Rotoworld:

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Pro Football Focus graded the Giants' offensive line as the tenth worst run blocking unit and the worst pass blocking unit in the league last season. 

NBC Sports Edge's Hayden Winks projects New York to draft Northwestern's Rashawn Slater with the 11th pick in the upcoming draft -- a potential upgrade to a porous line that had Daniel Jones scrambling for his life throughout the 2020 season. Winks said Slater has "positional versatility and is even ranked as the No. 1 offensive tackle on some NFL team’s draft boards." Slater, who opted out of the 2020 season due to COVID-19 concerns, would be a sensible pick for Giants general manager Dave Gettleman, who needs Jones to progress in a big way to keep his job beyond the 2021 season. 

 

 

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16 hours ago, kodycutter said:

Parsons reportedly had some off field issues at Penn State.   Not sure I'd take him at #11, but what do I know...there were reportedly red flags on Deandre Baker too and DG traded up for him.     

Giants have a couple of coaches with recent Penn State ties so they have some familiarity with Parsons. 

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6 hours ago, RC94 said:

From Rotoworld:

 

Nowhere to go but up for the OL.

All signs are pointing to at least 4 QB’s taken before the Giants pick and possibly even 5.

Here are Daniel Jeremiah’s top non-quarterbacks (listed in order)

#1 Kyle Pitts TE/WR (#2 when including QB)

#2 Ja’Marr Chase WR (#3)

#3 Jaylen Waddle WR (#5)

#4 DeVonta Smith  WR (#6)

#5 Rashawn Slater OT (#9)

#6 Patrick Surtain CB (#10)

#7 Micha Parsons LB (#11)

#8 Penei Sewell OT (#12)

#9 Greg Rousseau DE (#13)

#10 Kwity Paye DE (#14)

#11 Alijah Vera-Tucker OG (#15)

https://www.nfl.com/news/daniel-jeremiah-s-top-50-2021-nfl-draft-prospect-rankings-3-0

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Going to be an interesting draft.  We are going to get a good player at #11.     Also with Cowboys at #10, and Eagles at #12 - gonna be comparisons for years.   Have seen talk of a trade down to #15 if Belichick likes the 5th QB.         

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7 hours ago, kodycutter said:

Going to be an interesting draft.  We are going to get a good player at #11.     Also with Cowboys at #10, and Eagles at #12 - gonna be comparisons for years.   Have seen talk of a trade down to #15 if Belichick likes the 5th QB.         

I have seen that trade down with the Patriots a lot too. Since the Giants almost never trade down I don't think it will happen but it would be nice to get some extra picks. 

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