Bumping this because it's become relevant again.
I've had multiple posters confirm that Joe's as sharp as ever.
I've had multiple posters confirm that Joe's as sharp as ever.
Bumping this because it's become relevant again.
is there a head in the sand emoji?squistion said:No one is as sharp at 78 as they were 5-10 years earlier. That said, I have not seen evidence of the mental deterioration that others in this forum claim to have witnessed (please avoid laughing emojis. TIA).
is there a head in the sand emoji?
is there a head in the sand emoji?
Why are we worrying about using the 25th against Biden?
When did this happen?Do you think I take satisfaction in that? I do not. I am no political tribalist. I have a godson I have a duty to protect and an obligation to over a thousand employees and their families and children. I wanted them to have a better world. Some of you will have to live with your votes that made sure they, along with countless other innocent Americans, won't have it.
We just had the most unpredictable narcissist in the history of narcissim running the country, and you're more worried about this one?Things to consider
1) President Joseph Biden still has control over America's vast nuclear arsenal and can kill every living thing on the planet in a matter of hours. He also has control over the most powerful military force in all of recorded human history. He also is in a position to destroy the world economy and/or starve the entire world to death, as the United States is the "World's Bread Basket"
But he did his job. He got Trump out of office. The Dems finally played smart politics and chose the one guy that would beat Trump. As bad as Biden is, they could not risk another 4 years.The man needs flashcards to get through a Q&A session. Constantly ignoring hard questions is only making this worse.
But he did his job. He got Trump out of office. The Dems finally played smart politics and chose the one guy that would beat Trump. As bad as Biden is, they could not risk another 4 years.
I think that both parties should have an agreement next election. The Dems won't run Biden if the Republicans won't run Trump (or anyone related to Trump). That should give you two solid candidates.
I think Biden represents the Dems well. He was the most popular pick in history.But he did his job. He got Trump out of office. The Dems finally played smart politics and chose the one guy that would beat Trump. As bad as Biden is, they could not risk another 4 years.
I think that both parties should have an agreement next election. The Dems won't run Biden if the Republicans won't run Trump (or anyone related to Trump). That should give you two solid candidates.
Biden got a lot of the centre-right vote. He was a safe pick for them.He didn't do anything. You guys did.
And, to be fair, the 25th is EXACTLY for this type of situation - where the POTUS is unable to do his job. It's not because you don't like him - like the Democrats tried to do to Trump. It was a misuse and abuse of power.
As mentioned before, those were anti-Trump votes. Biden doesn't really inspire anyone. Safe.I think Biden represents the Dems well. He was the most popular pick in history.
As mentioned before, those were anti-Trump votes. Biden doesn't really inspire anyone. Safe.
I think Biden represents the Dems well. He was the most popular pick in history.
There's no doubt that Trump was the best president in US history at getting the vote out. For both sides.By the number of votes cast yes, but not by his percentage of 51.31%
Obama for his first term got 52.93% (and both LBJ and FDR had higher percentages).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_presidential_elections_by_popular_vote_margin
Biden is better than ObamaBy the number of votes cast yes, but not by his percentage of 51.31%
Obama for his first term got 52.93% (and both LBJ and FDR had higher percentages).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_presidential_elections_by_popular_vote_margin
Did you get this from some fan fict at reddit?Those 30-40 days between the vote and Trump leaving office were scary. Evryone worried about Trump lashing out. Luckily he only tried to lead an insurrection instead of going nuclear. Although I did hear mention that the generals talked him out of a few things
Biden is better than Obama
Did you get this from some fan fict at reddit?
Good lord
You serious Clark?Depends on how one defines better...but most Democrats would probably agree with that.
I don't believe this to be true.Depends on how one defines better...but most Democrats would probably agree with that.
Yeah, I suspect this isn't accurate.Depends on how one defines better...but most Democrats would probably agree with that.
I don't believe this to be true.
Yeah, I suspect this isn't accurate.
I think there is a general misunderstanding of what the 25th Amedment is for. It's not designed to facilitate palace coups, where the Cabinet gangs up on the president; in fact, pulling one of those off would be almost impossible. It's also not designed for a president who has maybe lost a step. Basically, as long as the president is capable of submitting an attestation to Congress that he can do the job, he's not going to be removed. Overruling his attestation requires 2/3 votes in both houses of Congress, which is a higher standard than for impeachment (which only requires a majority of the House). In other words, if you have enough Congressfolks willing to remove him from office via the 25th, that means by definition you have enough votes to impeach and convict him.The 25th is a dumb idea now as it was when Trump was in office.
Stop with the 25th garbage talk. Not happening, not gonna happen. It's a weak idea.
I know. Thats why I said it's a dumb ideaI think there is a general misunderstanding of what the 25th Amedment is for. It's not designed to facilitate palace coups, where the Cabinet gangs up on the president; in fact, pulling one of those off would be almost impossible. It's also not designed for a president who has maybe lost a step. Basically, as long as the president is capable of submitting an attestation to Congress that he can do the job, he's not going to be removed. Overruling his attestation requires 2/3 votes in both houses of Congress, which is a higher standard than for impeachment (which only requires a majority of the House). In other words, if you have enough Congressfolks willing to remove him from office via the 25th, that means by definition you have enough votes to impeach and convict him.
Literally the only time the 25th could have had any actual impact was this past January. If Pence and the rest of the Cabinet had been willing to invoke the 25th after Jan. 6, it wouldn't have succeeded in permanently removing Trump from office, but it would have removed him temporarily and allowed Congress to run out the clock on the last two weeks of his presidency. But of course it's a meaningless hypothetical because Pence was never going to do that.
The 25th was designed for situations where the president is literally incapacitated, like in a coma. Any of the other scenarios people discuss else will never ever happen
lol even when people agree with you, you can't resist being a jerk.I know. Thats why I said it's a dumb idea
It's happening before our very eyes. We approaching the point that even the liberal media can't ignore it.Not really.
Not remotely close. Sorry. This is partisan politician, or hack politician talk.It's happening before our very eyes. We approaching the point that even the liberal media can't ignore it.
The emperor had no clothes. It's not his fault. He should be in a rest home eating ice cream.
Huh? I agreed with you? That makes me a jerk?lol even when people agree with you, you can't resist being a jerk.
It must be a miserable existence to carry around so much anger with you all the time. Have a nice day.
I’m not all in. Biden is proving to be a complete and total disaster. But he’s no Trump; a guy who tried to subvert American democracy. That type of guy is a threat to the republic.Let's just say that some people are so invested that they refuse to see or believe anything based in reality. They were so invested in removing Trump, they screamed and cried 24/7 for four years until they finally did.
You really think their going to believe they elected an even worse guy? No way. They're all in now - even if they have to lie to themselves.
Michael Moore called it before the 2016 election.Biden got a lot of the centre-right vote. He was a safe pick for them.
I think there was more than dislike for Trump. He totally screwed up on the pandemic by making it political. But even that isn't enough for the 25th.
The insurrection thing is really close. Who knew what he was going to try and do to hold onto power.
We learned last cycle the 25th is never going to be used to remove someone from office permanently.
This might be the worst single post I have ever seen in here.In a massive legal battle dealing with far reaching future Constitutional implications, what happens if Kamala Harris makes a run to take POTUS via the 25th and is denied?
Let me rephrase that a different way - WHAT WILL BLACK LIVES MATTER AS AN ORGANIZATION DO IF THEY BELIEVE THE FIRST POTENTIAL "BLACK" FEMALE POTUS WAS RAILROADED BY THE SMUG TONE DEAF ELITIST WHITEWASHED ESTABLISHMENT?"
Are you prepared for riots and looting and pure destruction in every major city in America?
Pelosi can't push another stimulus package like the last one to bail out Big Blue Cities. Massive overtime to law enforcement will again cripple city budgets all over America. It's long since been openly cited that as rioting grows, donations to BLM explode. That means BLM as an organization has a profit motive to watch all of American burn to the ground. If city budgets collapse, that means massive furloughs and layoffs. Not just law enforcement but across the board towards all essential city functions. Look at Detroit as a test case when a cities budget completely collapses. They had to abandon major sections of Detroit. What happens to the small business owners already battered from the pandemic, the lockdowns, the rising costs of essentials and then the rioting and looting. Do you think the few who survived can endure another round of rioting and looting?
Kamala Harris is already on record supporting "unrest" and bailing out rioters and looters. You think she's going to care if America burns if it means she gets to be POTUS?
What happens when a National Guard unit is over run by rioters and one of them, a white American, opens fire on and shoots and kills a black civilian, whether that person be a rioter and looter or not. What do you think happens then?
More firearms were sold in 2020 to civilians than in any other year in American history. Legal purchases in 2020 alone racked up to 40 million out of the estimated total of 400 million firearms in the United States right now. What happens when those small business owners, some barely hanging on financially from being homeless, have a choice between defending their last chance to earn a living and feed their kids or be overwhelming by rioters and looters knowing that local law enforcement is either powerless or unwilling or ordered to let them be openly massacred. Do you want to videos of running gun battles in the streets? Do you think the Rooftop Koreans from the LA Riots times 10,000 incidents is going to make America feel safer at night?
It's in Kamala Harris' interest for there to be massive rioting and looting and destruction, as this pressures SCOTUS To rule for any 25th Constitutional argument in her favor, and it will get to SCOTUS whether they want it or not, just to stop the burning.
We also know have a fully fleshed out motive profile for people WITHIN THE SAME ADMINISTRATION to start slaughtering each other for a power grab. If Biden is removed by force, Harris ascends. If Harris is removed by force, Biden no longer carries her as a threat to take his seat.
Guess what? This has nothing to do with the GOP.
This is a problem that Barack Obama, establishment Democrats, the DCCC, the DNC Super Delegates, DNC HQ, Big Social Media, Jack Dorsey, Mark Zuckerberg, CNN, the Washington Post, David Cohen, Jeffrey Katzenberg, Michael Bloomberg, George Soros, most of Hollywood, Big Tech, Big Education, Big Sports, Debbie Wasserman Schwartz, Gavin Newsom, Andrew Cuomo, Lori Lightfoot, Gretchen Whitmer, Maxine Waters, most of the NBA and of course John Legend (deciding you are a racist since you won't submit to his wife's bullying) all brought onto themselves. '
Some of you voted for this utter madness. So when chaos reigns, because there's a practical pathway for greed, money and power for it, some of you will have sit down and eat the whole damn meal. Get a big spoon. Chew it down.
Do you think I take satisfaction in that? I do not. I am no political tribalist. I have a godson I have a duty to protect and an obligation to over a thousand employees and their families and children. I wanted them to have a better world. Some of you will have to live with your votes that made sure they, along with countless other innocent Americans, won't have it.