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Saw an update that they say, “early signs show good news. Early signs show dislocated knee, but not fractured. Of course mri will show more tomorrow, but if early signs are true that’s good news.”
Everyone is always whining about the coaches. I miss the good old days when people just whined about picking the wrong players.So the gimpy left ankle caused his knee injury in the other leg?
Wow, dude was a ticking time bomb. Guess we're lucky to have him on this Earth for this long.
4-6 weeks out would be good newsSaw an update that they say, “early signs show good news. Early signs show dislocated knee, but not fractured. Of course mri will show more tomorrow, but if early signs are true that’s good news.”
Agree. Didn’t look good at all.4-6 weeks out would be good news
No fracture, for now that's great.Patrick Mahomes has been diagnosed with a dislocated right kneecap.
NFL.com's James Palmer reports that Mahomes has avoided a fracture, but that further testing is required to determine if there's any ligament damage. A short absence is in play, but the same remains true for a lengthy one. Mahomes should undergo an MRI on Friday, and we figure to know the results within the next 18 hours.
When the patella dislocates laterally, the medial patellofemoral ligament (MPFL) is the most commonly torn ligament. There will be several options for #PatrickMahomes to choose from, surgery could be one. Non-surgical options could mean multiple weeks of rehab and a large brace.
Surgery would only be necessary for a complete tear. Even then, Mahomes may opt to push the surgery to the offseason. Unfortunately a reconstruction of this smaller ligament would likely end his season if they choose to go that route.
Possible to post your full league rules / bylaws?Bought Mahomes before he was ever a starter in two superflex leagues. In both leagues I also own Saquon, and Guice. One also has Brees out, the other has Watkins, Tyrell, Njoku out.
With the patella dislocation confirmed, the player and team have a big decision to make. Typically the medial patellofemoral ligament (MPFL) is torn and is best repaired with surgery. Yes, one can try to rehab and play through the season after about a month but will it be worth it? Matthew Stafford suffered this injury in 2009 and finished season after three weeks but later had surgery.But this injury will affect both quarterbacks differently. Mahomes would likely have to modify his game. There is a high risk of re-dislocation or subluxation (shifting). The biggest fear is if he knocks off some articular cartilage with the next re-injury and that could affect his long term career. My best guess is that the Chiefs will think hard on the decision to take the safer route and have surgery now to protect their star long term. Surgery means a minimum six to nine month recovery. Let's hope the best decision is made for Mahomes.
On the cheap... Donny Dimes getting all his weapons back. While he does have a bye (11) and the Bears (12) on the remaining schedule, he doesnt have a single team with a top-10 "Passing point allowed" which includes the Bears. And those final games from 14-18 are gorgeous (Eagles, Dolphins, Redskins, Eagles) in case Pat is slow or hindered.I'll be happy if he returns week 13 after his bye. I can stream quarterbacks for 5 weeks. I really don't want to have to trade for a quarterback. Fantasy owners ask a lot in return to trade you their backup quarterback. But if you try to trade your backup people won't give you anything.
Pair him with Darnold who has a money schedule weeks 9-14. Hell I might even add Teddy B for Zona week 8. Then roll with Sam. Add Jones after his bye.On the cheap... Donny Dimes getting all his weapons back. While he does have a bye (11) and the Bears (12) on the remaining schedule, he doesnt have a single team with a top-10 "Passing point allowed" which includes the Bears. And those final games from 14-18 are gorgeous (Eagles, Dolphins, Redskins, Eagles) in case Pat is slow or hindered.
The defense played fantastic football tonight. They shut down the run & had 9 or 10 sacks.The Chiefs aren't winning anything this year with that trash defense, so rushing back and risking your long term health for this team would be very unwise.
Theres no evidence hes torn any ligaments at all. Wait for the MRI.see ya next season kid...sucks hurts two redrafts and 1 dyno for me.....the post two up explains it all....no way they risk it he needs surgery
I'm simply pointing out that you can have a horrible season if you get crushed by injuries. Right when Saquon comes back people are losing Mahomes...well...at least dynasty owners that owned the studs are. We can review my rosters if you want to... binging530 on twitter we can deep dive on the subject. Thankfully I own 3-4 2020 1st across multiple leagues against podcast host. Maybe you can create an injury predictor app to help me out???Possible to post your full league rules / bylaws?
Let me break out the for Saquon/Mahomes dynasty owners.I'm simply pointing out that you can have a horrible season if you get crushed by injuries. Right when Saquon comes back people are losing Mahomes...well...at least dynasty owners that owned the studs are.
Isn’t Saquon coming back this week?Let me break out the for Saquon/Mahomes dynasty owners.
Possible. Right now anything is possible.Pretty much every ACL tear, the guy walks off the field without a limp & without assistance. I actually prefer to see a guy in a bit of pain in similar situations, more likely to be a bruise than an ACL.
Chiefs quarterback Patrick Mahomes dislocates knee, could play through at significant risk
By PROFOOTBALLDOC
OCT. 17, 2019
9:04 PM
Chiefs quarterback Patrick Mahomes’ night ended with a patella dislocation after a quarterback sneak Thursday against the Broncos.
By video, it was clear his kneecap was dislocated (out of place) to the lateral (outside) of his knee.
...The injury is a tear of the medial patellofemoral ligament (MPFL). Most times for professional athletes, this requires surgery, as the kneecap becomes unstable.It is possible to try to rehab and return this season with a brace and delay surgery until the offseason, but that is not a plan that comes with guarantees.
It is possible to return in three to four weeks after swelling subsides and strength returns. But even with a brace, the risk of re-dislocation is high, and the risk of subluxaton (slipping transiently out of groove) is even higher.
Trent Williams tried to play through this injury and couldn’t. Matt Stafford had a similar injury in 2009 and returned in three weeks. He did have surgery in the offseason. But Stafford is more of a pocket QB. Mahomes would have to alter his game to improve his chances to finish the season without surgery.
Fortunately, the other ligaments are fine.
If Mahomes opts for surgery, the recovery timeline is 6-9 months. He should make a full recovery, assuming he did not suffer any significant articular cartilage damage.
What surgery? We don’t know he needs surgery. The MRI is tomorrow.He’s not gonna take any big risks. He hasn’t signed a monster contract yet.
he’s 99% gonna get the surgery and be out for season.
no way he takes a huge risk before his future money is locked up.
The dream is over. Mahomes done for 2019. Keep believing but the writing on the wall. He’s still on his rookie contract.What surgery? We don’t know he needs surgery. The MRI is tomorrow.
cart ~> horse.
and I picked up Trubisky (@ Eagles) to cover week 9. Baby steps.
I can’t tell if this is a schtick or not.The dream is over. Mahomes done for 2019. Keep believing but the writing on the wall. He’s still on his rookie contract.
It's probably 50/50 right now whether he returns this season. But I think you're right that his not having a mega contract will mean he won't take any chances. He gets paid in a matter of months.The dream is over. Mahomes done for 2019. Keep believing but the writing on the wall. He’s still on his rookie contract.
Actual doctors have said he could probably put off surgery and return with knee brace risking further injury.What surgery? We don’t know he needs surgery. The MRI is tomorrow.
cart ~> horse.
Actual doctors have said that they need to see an mri before they know what's up.Actual doctors have said he could probably put off surgery and return with knee brace risking further injury.
or he can get surgery and be out for season.
what would you do if you were mahomes ready to sign record breaking contract.
Those doctors haven’t seen the MRI either. Because the MRI isn’t until tomorrow.Actual doctors have said he could probably put off surgery and return with knee brace risking further injury.
or he can get surgery and be out for season.
what would you do if you were mahomes ready to sign record breaking contract.
yes. He had a significant ankle sprain. It effected his mobility. He came into this game heavily taped.No idea about his injury, but I think he has had a problem the last few games. Which I think is also why the offense has been stagnant... totally built around his deep ball and athleticism to make plays obviously.
Moore looked pretty solid. The 57 yard TD. to hill was a perfect throw.This offense is a fire sale if Mahomes has a real problem.
I don't much faith in Danny Dimebag. I could forgive him for doing poorly against the Vikings and Patriots. But he also did poorly against the Redskins. So he has had 1 good game which was against the Buccaneers. That doesn't mean much. He does have a nice fantasy playoff schedule but that is a long ways away. And he has a nice matchup this Sunday against the Cardinals.On the cheap... Donny Dimes getting all his weapons back. While he does have a bye (11) and the Bears (12) on the remaining schedule, he doesnt have a single team with a top-10 "Passing point allowed" which includes the Bears. And those final games from 14-18 are gorgeous (Eagles, Dolphins, Redskins, Eagles) in case Pat is slow or hindered.
He was 13 of 19 (68%, 1td/2int) and a big lead at half time with an offense that had no Barkley or Tate.But he also did poorly against the Redskins.
C) Aikman prob knows more than youA) I don’t think that QB sneaks put QBs at much injury risk
B) It’s wild though that Aikman basically called it
Aikman is prob better looking than him. I'm not sure that he knows more.C) Aikman prob knows more than you
Just want to be certainAikman is prob better looking than him. I'm not sure that he knows more.
How about Belichick because he ran three QB sneaks with his 42 years old QB in just the last game alone?C) Aikman prob knows more than you
I dunno. Guy had a pretty serious ankle injury. I realize injury was to his his knee and maybe it was a freak injury but when someone has one injury they can move differently than they normally would.How about Belichick because he ran three QB sneaks with his 42 years old QB in just the last game alone?