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WR Kenny Golladay, NYG (1 Viewer)
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Biabreakable
Footballguy
Golliday looks like a nice player but I would rather have Zones.
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
But your personal dislike of a player doesn't make it an "ugly offer" - it's actually a very fair (if not favorable to you) offer. You acted like the guy offered his 2019 fifth rounder for Golladay.
socrates
Footballguy
In dynasty, I agree. Golladay looked impressive in his first NFL preseason action, but 2 TDs on 3 preseason receptions isn't going to vault him above Jones on my board. If I owned Golladay in dynasty, I might actually be trying to cash in on his increased value right now. Golladay for Mike Williams or John Ross? Heck yeah! Golladay for Zay Jones? Most likely.
Alex P Keaton
Footballguy
What are people predicting for him?
I'll say 450 yds and 4 TDs
I'll say 450 yds and 4 TDs
Weebs210
Footballguy
I don't have a prediction but I would bet the over. Lions desperately need a red zone threat and we all know Stafford loves him some big strong receivers.
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Stealthycat
Footballguy
45-450-4
He has Tate, Marvin, Ebron and 2 great pass catching RB's ahead of him
He has Tate, Marvin, Ebron and 2 great pass catching RB's ahead of him
Dan Lambskin
Footballguy
bostonfred
Footballguy
He's still a raw route runner who needs time to get good, but he's got the physical tools to shine against vanilla defenses and second team defenders. In college he got away with beating up on weak competition and never had to fine tune his skills. That's not a knock on his work ethic, its just that he didn't have to learn NFL things, he needed to learn college things and he did.
I see him as a solid 2018 player who might flash before then but I wouldn't pay hype prices for him. Let his current owner take on the risk and the reward of he has a monster season. More likely his hype will die down when he is ok but not special in year one, his price drops down some like Shepard, Doctson, Boyd, Treadwell, Sharpe, etc, and look to speculate in the off season. If his owner won't budge for a reasonable price, there are other good buying opportunities elsewhere, don't be afraid to move on imo.
I see him as a solid 2018 player who might flash before then but I wouldn't pay hype prices for him. Let his current owner take on the risk and the reward of he has a monster season. More likely his hype will die down when he is ok but not special in year one, his price drops down some like Shepard, Doctson, Boyd, Treadwell, Sharpe, etc, and look to speculate in the off season. If his owner won't budge for a reasonable price, there are other good buying opportunities elsewhere, don't be afraid to move on imo.
Ilov80s
Footballguy
Ran a 4.50, was dominant in college (in the MAC) and had a young breakout age. He checks a lot of boxes for a good WR prospect.
Chaka
Footballguy
Futz
Footballguy
...and I think you are spot on for not knowing him. The thing people are not considering as much as they should here is the fact that the Lions were void of red zone weapons after Calvin left. Ebron hasn't materialized there yet and I don't even need to mention Tate & Jones. GM Bob Quinn made an obvious effort to address this in the draft and it's no coincidence that Golladay is already sniffing first team reps with Stafford. They need to get acquainted quick because this team needs this type of player and will force feed him at the goal line if he can prove able.pecorino said:
Ketamine Dreams
Footballguy
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BobbyLayne
Footballguy
nice week for the MAC rookies
bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
Run It Up
Footballguy
His 2nd td was silly. Was on a vertical at least 30 yards, dove from the 5 yard line to catch the ball at the 1 and bounce into the endzone untouched.
Correction 50 yard vertical
Correction 50 yard vertical
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Still can't trust doofus to put up points until they fall far behind. He'd much rather die in the redzone and kick a FG until he has to score a TD.
His second TD catch was ridiculous. Ball overthrown in tight coverage. He separated and dove and completely extends himself to haul the ball in. I thought he had no chance at the ball and yet he caught it cleanly. He also got several looks at the goal line. Tate was clearly the go to guy, but the Lions looked like they really like matching Galladay up against shorter defenders in the end zone. Also like to use him deep. He won't get a lot of receptions but will get his TD's.
Doofus last two years had a QB rating well over 90 and has been well over 4000 yards the last 6 years. He is certainly better late in the game, but he is one tough ### dude and one heck of a competitor. Will do anything to win a game. I am not gonna hate him for winning football games with a relatively talentless team.
Caldwell is stupid. But he has assembled a pretty good set of assistant coaches. The Lions have outperformed their talent level during his time there. Their defense looks better than ever. Did not care for some of the play calling on offense. But I don't see Caldwell as holding him back. He was used effectively today.
If he was smart, he would just not show up come game time and let JBC run the offense without being reigned in.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
The pecking order by snap count:
Marvin 93.23% (good run blocker/deep threat)
Tate 79.70% (possession & YAC)
Golladay 58.89 (beast)
TJJ 25.56%
By Utilization / targets:
Tate - 16
Golladay & Theo: 10
Ebron - 8
Jones Jr - 7
Abdullah & Other Jones - 4
Fells - 1
Small sample size but that top 7 is exactly what I thought would happen this year. KG is a playmaker, but being a rookie & not the centerpiece, you have to pick your spots. I don’t think this is the week but he will be a RZ force all year so heck why not flex him?
The Lions are #1 in the red zone this year through 2 games; Stafford is 5/5 with 4 TDs.
TripleThreat
Footballguy
Conan Troutman
Footballguy
Did just that yesterday. Thinking about rolling the dice on him this week due to bye week problems, assuming he practices fully all week. Floor is certainly low, but there aren't too many great options out there at this point anyway and you gotta like his upside if Tate is out.
Weebs210
Footballguy
Conan Troutman
Footballguy
Haven't seen much of Detroit, but over his last three games he caught 6 of 10 targets for 177 yards - that's 17.7 yards per target and 29.5 yards per reception. Obviously that's not sustainable and a small sample size, but he didn't pad those stats with one fluke game either - 2 catches in every game. Excited to see what he can do with more volume.
Golladay owner here. Former Calvin Johnson owner as well. Don't expect a lot. Caldwell's m.o. is to do nothing in the first half and try and keep it close and then hope to win in the 4th Q. Until he is gone, Detroit fantasy wise is a wasteland in the 1st half and you have to hope the other team builds a lead, forcing Caldwell to let Stafford air it out. If they draft a really good RB and get OL help, RB could be useful in Caldwell's horrible scheme. He's not going anywhere for a long time because he's figured out this approach beats crappy teams and keeps him employed.
Futz
Footballguy
It's a hail mary dart throw right now. He only gets 3 looks a week and most of them are low percentage deep throws. In a PPR, you can do better. If you get bonus pts. for longer TDs he may be able to help there. Keep in mind though that we don't know what Stafford is capable of with that hand injury.
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Alluro
Footballguy
Is everyone sleeping on KG going into year two?
Just two days ago, the Lions GM says he has a "tremendous amount of upside."
http://www.detroitlions.com/news/lions-insider-short/article-1/Quinn-Golladay-has-a-tremendous-amount-of-upside/a56e4269-b6dc-4b86-9229-c6b9c37f7f76
Nate Burleson: Detroit Lions' Kenny Golladay 'next up' for NFL stardom
https://www.freep.com/story/sports/nfl/lions/2018/02/12/kenny-golladay-detroit-lions-fantasy-football/328764002/
I saw somewhere Golden Tate was saying Golladay is a number one but can't find it now...If people are sleeping on this guy, buy, buy, buy!
Just two days ago, the Lions GM says he has a "tremendous amount of upside."
http://www.detroitlions.com/news/lions-insider-short/article-1/Quinn-Golladay-has-a-tremendous-amount-of-upside/a56e4269-b6dc-4b86-9229-c6b9c37f7f76
Nate Burleson: Detroit Lions' Kenny Golladay 'next up' for NFL stardom
https://www.freep.com/story/sports/nfl/lions/2018/02/12/kenny-golladay-detroit-lions-fantasy-football/328764002/
I saw somewhere Golden Tate was saying Golladay is a number one but can't find it now...If people are sleeping on this guy, buy, buy, buy!
the lone star
Footballguy
This guy might be a really good sleeper iyam. Playing with Stafford, had a decent rookie season, and will likely improve as a sophomore. Keep your eye on him.
Snorkelson
Footballguy
I don’t think he’s really a “sleeper,” try buying him in dynasty and you’ll find a tough market. With Tate nearing the end of his contract and a qb that is still pretty young despite being around for years his arrow is pointing up. Maybe a sleeper for redraft, but in dynasty he’s hard to acquire.
the lone star
Footballguy
I wonder how much Tate gets on the open market? Lions should definitely try to keep him though.
This. He's no "sleeper" in dynasty. I'd pay a 2nd for him and wouldn't sell for less than a late 1st.
the lone star
Footballguy
Late first is a lot. 2nd seems fair.
But I was actually talking redraft. Dynasty, he's probably not available. My bad for not clarifying.
Faust
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Snorkelson
Footballguy
I’ve been trying to acquire him and simply can’t. I think you could make a case for him over any of the WRs in this class honestly, so it would likely take something like 1.09. I was turned down for 1.12.
