Chaka
Footballguy
Barkley being out is a mixed bag for the rest of the team. More opportunities, possibly, but I have to imagine containing Engram is the #1 priority for the Washington defense now.
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flapgreen
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Milkman
Footballguy
flapgreen
Footballguy
Grouped with the injury-risk to Olsen and the putrid Bengals offense, I felt it was worth the risk.
ConnSKINS26
Footballguy
Engram could easily go off this week. Collins is good but surrounded by mostly trash other than the DL (when healthy). He's not a guy I would avoid in terms of matchups, and the Giants don't even need to use Engram in a way that would pit him against a SS consistently even if he WAS some sort of matchup nightmare for a TE. Engram can line up all over and take advantage of young inexperienced ILB's, crappy corners, a lacking FS...before ever even having to worry about Collins. Nevermind the fact that Collins is not exactly a perfect guy in coverage anyways.
Engram is basically the ONE guy this eternally slumping Skins D has to stop, with no Barkley, no more OBJ, no Tate, a banged up Shepard, and a rookie QB...
That's not going to stop him from dominating, most likely.
Engram is basically the ONE guy this eternally slumping Skins D has to stop, with no Barkley, no more OBJ, no Tate, a banged up Shepard, and a rookie QB...
That's not going to stop him from dominating, most likely.
Chaka
Footballguy
I don't see that Andrews has a ton of help on his offense and Waller has Tyrell and Jacobs, which is a lot more than Engram right now.
Johnny B. Goode
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Chaka
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BigBlue_RI
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cloppbeast
Footballguy
Knee injury. Wth?
Stompin' Tom Connors
Footballguy
Saw that as well -- did that happen in-game?
On one hand, I don't think the Giants practiced to day, so being on an injury report on a non-practicing day may not be as big of a deal compared to tomorrow and Wed if he's limited/DNP.
On the other hand, any ding to our boy is concerning, and it's a short week which compounds healing time and potential availability -- and having to scramble on the wire if he can't go.
JoeSteeler
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Engram seems to be the most likely to play among those who sat out today. Shurmur said the team’s leader with 33 receptions has, “just a little game soreness. We’ll just see how he does as the week progresses.” Shurmur did not know if Engram will practice tomorrow.
https://www.giants.com/news/giants-playmakers-sterling-shepard-evan-engram-land-on-injury-report
https://www.giants.com/news/giants-playmakers-sterling-shepard-evan-engram-land-on-injury-report
Gottabesweet
Footballguy
Even if he plays I’m assuming this is the player the Pats game plan out of the game. Almost hope Barkley plays to open it up for Engram?
The Big Donkey
Footballguy
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Adam Schefter
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In addition to WR Sterling Shepard being out Thursday at New England and RB Saquon Barkley being unlikely to play, there’s also a real chance the Giants will be without TE Evan Engram, who is dealing with a sprained MCL, per source. It’ll be a challenge for Engram to play at NE.
Adam Schefter
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In addition to WR Sterling Shepard being out Thursday at New England and RB Saquon Barkley being unlikely to play, there’s also a real chance the Giants will be without TE Evan Engram, who is dealing with a sprained MCL, per source. It’ll be a challenge for Engram to play at NE.
Gottabesweet
Footballguy
I'd probably lean Everett. Hock is no lock to play, and goes Monday Night, and Walker has barely played the last 2 weeks.
Futz
Footballguy
I will probably do the same but it feels like a waste of a ww position and like chasing points but watcha finna du?
Dacomish
Footballguy
(RotoWire) Engram (knee) was present for the Giants' practice Tuesday and was seen running routes and participating in individual drills, Dan Duggan of The Athletic reports.
Analysis: Adam Schefter of ESPN relayed earlier Tuesday that Engram suffered a sprained MCL in his left knee during Sunday's loss to the Vikings, clouding the tight end's availability for a Thursday night matchup with the Patriots in Week 6. The fact that Engram was on the field in some capacity Tuesday offers some more encouragement about his outlook for this week, as does the fact that he was wearing a protective wrap over the knee rather than a brace, per Jordan Raanan of ESPN.com. That said, Raanan noted that Engram "didn't look great" while moving around, and the 25-year-old's activity may not even be enough to constitute limited participation in Tuesday's practice. Another update on Engram should be available when practice concludes, but if he can't go in Week 6, Rhett Ellison would be in store for an enhanced role at tight end.
Analysis: Adam Schefter of ESPN relayed earlier Tuesday that Engram suffered a sprained MCL in his left knee during Sunday's loss to the Vikings, clouding the tight end's availability for a Thursday night matchup with the Patriots in Week 6. The fact that Engram was on the field in some capacity Tuesday offers some more encouragement about his outlook for this week, as does the fact that he was wearing a protective wrap over the knee rather than a brace, per Jordan Raanan of ESPN.com. That said, Raanan noted that Engram "didn't look great" while moving around, and the 25-year-old's activity may not even be enough to constitute limited participation in Tuesday's practice. Another update on Engram should be available when practice concludes, but if he can't go in Week 6, Rhett Ellison would be in store for an enhanced role at tight end.
Interseptopus
Footballguy
IMO he plays this week
I'm 2-3 with 2nd most points, and 100 more PA than the next team. Lost 220-200 one week.
Lamar, Saquon,Cook, DJ, Allen, Lockett, Kittle are my core.....2-3.
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tombonneau
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Same boat in dynasty. I might grab Izzo and hope for a TD. Try not to puke, but Jeremey Sprinkle might be a sleeper vs. Miami if Davis & Reed are still out.
Stompin' Tom Connors
Footballguy
Ugh. Can totally see them resting Engram to heal, and if he plays, can also see that he's out there as a decoy/limited reps.
Would love him to heal for the long term. At same time both options above are preferrable for me having to drop badly needed depth to cover an injured TE not on a bye.
Would love him to heal for the long term. At same time both options above are preferrable for me having to drop badly needed depth to cover an injured TE not on a bye.
Gottabesweet
Footballguy
I was able to sell him this morning, something seems fishy with Shurmer's comments, probably not to get embarrassed too badly.
Does NE choose to take away a potentially gimpy Engram, or Golden Tate.
Stompin' Tom Connors
Footballguy
On one hand, Engram was a limited participant in practice. That he was on the field practicing to day is some modicum of good news, I guess.
On the other hand, that he didn't have a travel bag near his locker isn't a terrific sign. That there also wasn't a travel bag for guys like Shepard (who is likely to be out given concussion protocol) and Barkley (who is likely to be out despite Shurmur keeping coy about it) is not making me feel great about Engram's chances.
On the other hand, that he didn't have a travel bag near his locker isn't a terrific sign. That there also wasn't a travel bag for guys like Shepard (who is likely to be out given concussion protocol) and Barkley (who is likely to be out despite Shurmur keeping coy about it) is not making me feel great about Engram's chances.
Biabreakable
Footballguy
I hope its minor. Makes sense to just rest him on a short week instead if risking aggravating the injury further.
Stompin' Tom Connors
Footballguy
Most have likely seen this, but Engram has been deemed out for this week.
Now I have to drop a lotto ticket I would have preferred to keep to cover. So be it.
In a 14-team league, waivers are thin. Looking at guys like Hunter Henry or Vernon Davis (if either are cleared), Noah Fant, and even O.J. Howard or Ricky Seales-Jones.
The sneaky move might actually be Rhett Ellison, given that he may pick up the slack from both Engram and Shepard being out. But the NE D may have something to say about that.
How are you other Engram owners covering his absence this week?
Now I have to drop a lotto ticket I would have preferred to keep to cover. So be it.
In a 14-team league, waivers are thin. Looking at guys like Hunter Henry or Vernon Davis (if either are cleared), Noah Fant, and even O.J. Howard or Ricky Seales-Jones.
The sneaky move might actually be Rhett Ellison, given that he may pick up the slack from both Engram and Shepard being out. But the NE D may have something to say about that.
How are you other Engram owners covering his absence this week?
joffer
Footballguy
Jared Cook for me. Whee?Most have likely seen this, but Engram has been deemed out for this week.
Now I have to drop a lotto ticket I would have preferred to keep to cover. So be it.
In a 14-team league, waivers are thin. Looking at guys like Hunter Henry or Vernon Davis (if either are cleared), Noah Fant, and even O.J. Howard or Ricky Seales-Jones.
The sneaky move might actually be Rhett Ellison, given that he may pick up the slack from both Engram and Shepard being out. But the NE D may have something to say about that.
How are you other Engram owners covering his absence this week?
Biabreakable
Footballguy
Rhett Ellison actually did ok when Engram was out last season. Here is what he did in the 4 games that Engram missed.Most have likely seen this, but Engram has been deemed out for this week.
Now I have to drop a lotto ticket I would have preferred to keep to cover. So be it.
In a 14-team league, waivers are thin. Looking at guys like Hunter Henry or Vernon Davis (if either are cleared), Noah Fant, and even O.J. Howard or Ricky Seales-Jones.
The sneaky move might actually be Rhett Ellison, given that he may pick up the slack from both Engram and Shepard being out. But the NE D may have something to say about that.
How are you other Engram owners covering his absence this week?
5 targets 3 receptions 29 yards
3 targets 2 receptions 17 yards
6 targets 4 receptions 77 yards
6 targets 4 receptions 42 yards
Both Engram and Ellison missed game 6 last year.
I know thats not great, but if you have no better options he might be able to do something for your team.
Stompin' Tom Connors
Footballguy
Wow, thanks for the insight and data!
Question becomes if Ellison will have a chance against the NE D, as opposed to Vernon Davis v MIA, Fant v TEN, OJ v CAR, Seals-Jones v SEA, or Henry v PIT.
I think Davis has the best upside, but he needs to be cleared first. Also looking at Henry as if he's cleared, could be a great trade chip.
Gottabesweet
Footballguy
What stinks for Henry is that he's Sunday night and you'd likely have no hedge unless you have Vance McDonald, Hockenson or Graham.
Biabreakable
Footballguy
Yeah I would lean towards Davis or Henry if healthy as well I think. Ellison is a blocking TE after all.
Possible Ellison puts up the same numbers as these guys this week though.
Good luck with whatever you ultimately decide to do.
Futz
Footballguy
If Henry is just starting to practice and albeit limited right now, I see virtually zero chance he's going to get out there this week anyways. I'm warming to the idea of these guys in this order:
1. Vance Johnson (Best shot at a TD)
2. Vernon Davis (If I knew he were playing at Miami)
3. Rhett Ellison (Garbage time vs NE should at least net a 4-45 with the limited WR options)
4. Jordan Akins (probable shootout with KC but does share touches a little too much)
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BigSteelThrill
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Interseptopus
Footballguy
BigSteelThrill
Footballguy
Interseptopus
Footballguy
I would not trade Engram for Diggs.
Not sure I would do it for JuJu in redraft. Dynasty sure but that's a steal for the team getting JuJu
tombonneau
Footballguy
Izzo. Hoping with Dorsett not suiting up and BB basically putting his faith in the two young TEs by cutting Watson, they might be mixing them a little more into the game plan. Izzo from what I hear is the lesser blocker so should be getting more catches. Anything more than goose egg is gravy.Walker.
As other poster said, Vernon Davis/Sprinkle might be a good call if VD is officially in/out
Futz
Footballguy
Starting to get more intrugued:
Rhett Ellison posted snap rates of 87%, 98%, 89% and 94% in four games without Engram last season. His combined 13-165-0 line in those performances isn't spectacular, but the block-first TE has at least shown the ability to catch most passes thrown his way. Ellison is more of an underrated play in DFS showdown slates to save salary, as the floor of the Giants Offense makes him an extremely thin season-long play.
Ian Hartitz--- Rotoworld
Rhett Ellison posted snap rates of 87%, 98%, 89% and 94% in four games without Engram last season. His combined 13-165-0 line in those performances isn't spectacular, but the block-first TE has at least shown the ability to catch most passes thrown his way. Ellison is more of an underrated play in DFS showdown slates to save salary, as the floor of the Giants Offense makes him an extremely thin season-long play.
Ian Hartitz--- Rotoworld
