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RB James Conner, ARZ (3 Viewers)
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brewer
Footballguy
While they seem to like Ryan Switzer, I think Jaylen Samuels will be the guy to have here. Though, they seem reluctant to give any RB not named Lev Bell a substantial amount of work, so I think his ceiling is a bit limited.
I could see 10 carries and 5 catches though. Say 75 yards and a TD? Could be more, could be less, but the match up is a good one.
I could see 10 carries and 5 catches though. Say 75 yards and a TD? Could be more, could be less, but the match up is a good one.
JoeSteeler
Footballguy
Switzer is in the concussion protocol
Philip Lindsay and Matt Brieda, 185 lb players with over 900 yds each... I think your point evades me.
Never mind... I see that this was a post about someone confusing Switzers position. Maybe just say that instead of insinuating he’s too small to play in the league.
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Fireballer
Footballguy
Anybody gambling and just dropping Conner? I would have to drop either Elkler, Gordon, Mack, Michel, or Ware instead of Conner to pick up Samuel.
You can probably afford to dump Ekeler. I wouldn't want to drop Conner, just to see him playing in week 15 or more likely 16. If Conner can make it back this year, they'll push him to play, the Steelers are no lock for the playoffs, with some really tough games after this Oakland game. 9-6-1 seems like the most likely record for the Steelers to me, unless they can upset the Patriots or Saints.
johnnyboy8102
Footballguy
Being ruled out on a Tuesday means he has to be considered doubtful for Week 15.
I am concerned there is a real chance we will not see him again this season.
I am concerned there is a real chance we will not see him again this season.
Fireballer
Footballguy
Well I got my wish. I dropped Conner. I just dont see him coming back and being startable. Its just my gut, but thats how I feel. IF, we played in 16, hes just 3 weeks removed from whats probably a HAS. I just dont see it.
Minus any new information I don't agree with that move at all.
Would have easily dropped Ekeler (who looked horrible, J. Jackson may take bigger piece of pie, Gordon coming back) or M. Mack (horrible schedule next two weeks and seems to only perform when the matchup is there).
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
We don't know for sure if it's a HAS sprain. I don't own Conner anywhere, so it would make my playoff runs easier if he was done for the season, but I don't see how you could drop him if you had him. I would have dropped Ekeler or maybe Ware if you really needed Samuel (or just left Samuel on the wire, it's not sure thing he produces).
As a Conner and Samuels owner I think we’re all thinking the same thing. Take the extra week and give way to Samuels one more week. If he’s somehow active, which I have trouble seeing, I don’t think I would feel good running the risk of reaffirmation during the game. I will have to bench both him and Samuels for James White and hope it’s a heavy check down game plan from the Pats. Being that they lost last week without Whites involvement makes me think they will utilize him early and often but even that’s a crap shoot.
Team Smokin'
Footballguy
I too have vested interest in the Connor recovery. I don't own him, but I will start 2 of 3 of the following at TE and Flex: Samuels, White, or Gronk depending upon the status of Conner. Last week I sat Gronk. Ouch! Still got the W. This week White goes to the bench? NE RB's LOL. Could be a White dump off game? Anyhow, I am heavily invested in this game. I also start JuJu in this same league and BIG BEN in another league semi-final match up.
VikingFrog
Footballguy
This is tough with all these Saturday games if you don’t own Samuel... me.
I only have Ian Thomas as an even dart throw behind Connor in my flex.
I have a few RB2/3 options today but none offer the upside of Connor.
Wish they’d just declare him out.
I only have Ian Thomas as an even dart throw behind Connor in my flex.
I have a few RB2/3 options today but none offer the upside of Connor.
Wish they’d just declare him out.
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Conner is a 4pm start. That makes things even more difficult. Hope Scheffter has something tmrw morning that is definitive.
fantasycurse42
Footballguy Jr.
Luckily, my decision is between Conner and Chris Carson (both 4pm). I’m debating just playing Carson for the safety in case he does play and is either limited or reinjures himself.
LionOfGosforth
Footballguy
I was starting Chubb all week but now i'm wavering a bit. I can still plug DJ in tomorrow if the news is not positive on Conner.
BigJonE300
Footballguy
I'm in the championship of a 16-team keeper auction league. I cannot keep Conner. I'm considering cutting him to pick up Jamaal Williams. Starting to look like Conner is going to be out again as he didn't practice at all today. I've got Chubb and Johnson, Hilton and Diggs so he would be a flex. I'm not crazy am I? I'm starting to think he might sit even if he does practice again with the showing Samuel had last week, just so he's healthy for the playoffs.
Sweatpants
Footballguy
Awesome!
SDJohnny
Footballguy
If he's not going to be one of your keepers, then cut him. You cannot trust him this week even if he does play.
SkippaDaFlippa
Footballguy
Is it safe to drop this guy in redraft yet for those in week 17 championship games?
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Bracie Smathers
Footballguy
Mike ClayVerified account @MikeClayNFL
Cowboys Ezekiel Elliott vs. Steelers James Conner through Week 13 last season
7:34 AM - 29 Mar 2019
Cowboys Ezekiel Elliott vs. Steelers James Conner
Cowboys Ezekiel Elliott vs. Steelers James Conner through Week 13 last season
7:34 AM - 29 Mar 2019
Cowboys Ezekiel Elliott vs. Steelers James Conner
barackdhouse
Footballguy
Surprisingly little talk about this guy (here) after the season he had and the off-season the Steelers had. I don't own him anywhere but I do own Samuels in a couple spots. But honestly I didn't get to watch much of either player last year. I just saw some highlights and box scores.
On some other threads people seem skeptical of Conner moving forward. I'm not saying they're wrong but what is the argument against him being the guy?
On some other threads people seem skeptical of Conner moving forward. I'm not saying they're wrong but what is the argument against him being the guy?
I don't have the answers because it's something I've been trying to figure out myself, but it's a good question and also surprised at the lack of chatter. The new RB coach is Samuels old coach in college, Samuels can hurt Connor's ppr value due to his pass catching, and Pitt's offense will obviously be hurt with AB leaving, just not sure how much Connor will be hurt by those things.
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Bracie Smathers
Footballguy
Ahh not that concerned since they are late round prospects. Might have an interest in depth or ST play but saw this.
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Sigmund Bloom @SigmundBloom
They are hammering RB in pre-draft visits, but at least this trio is all late-round/undrafted instead of second day picks like Sanders and Harris
Sigmund Bloom added, Joe Rutter @tribjoerutter
The Steelers have 5 predraft visitors Tuesday: Linebacker David Long (West Virginia), wide receiver Miles Boykin (Notre Dame), running back Travis Homer (MIami), running back Jordan Scarlett (Florida), RB Mike Weber (Ohio State).
9:17 AM - 2 Apr 2019
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Sigmund Bloom @SigmundBloom
They are hammering RB in pre-draft visits, but at least this trio is all late-round/undrafted instead of second day picks like Sanders and Harris
Sigmund Bloom added, Joe Rutter @tribjoerutter
The Steelers have 5 predraft visitors Tuesday: Linebacker David Long (West Virginia), wide receiver Miles Boykin (Notre Dame), running back Travis Homer (MIami), running back Jordan Scarlett (Florida), RB Mike Weber (Ohio State).
9:17 AM - 2 Apr 2019
The Finist
Footballguy
Team Guy. Runs really hard. Good pass catcher. Teams will play the Steelers differently without AB out there. Wont have to carry as a heavy as a load as last year with Samuels up to speed. I still think he finishes inside the top 10 for RBs if he stays healthy.
Twenty-Four Eighty-Four
Footballguy
This news has to definitely take him out of the first round consideration right? I've seen him going at the end of the first in some drafts but now there's no way for me.
The Finist
Footballguy
I dont see it. I think he will be the workhorse.
I think it will be like it was last year after he came back form the injury. He will get a series off here and there. NBD imo.
could be wrong. total speculation.
I think it will be like it was last year after he came back form the injury. He will get a series off here and there. NBD imo.
could be wrong. total speculation.
King of the Jungle
Footballguy
Conner seems like a real humble guy (“I haven’t earned anything yet”), so I don’t think him saying that the backfield will be spread pretty evenly is absolutely indicative of what the Steelers are actually planning on.
brewer
Footballguy
I agree. There were 3 games last year where Conner got less than 10 carries and his YPC in those games was 2.34(compared to 4.53 on the year). Two of those defenses were Baltimore and Jacksonville, but the other was Kansas City. The other Baltimore game he had 24 carries for 107 yards.
He gets better as the game goes on and wears the defenses down. He needs volume to be at his best.
Samuels will take a fair number of the third down reps.
As for Snell, well the Steelers don't typically play rookie RBs very much. Samuels didn't have more than 5 carries in a game last year until Conner got hurt. Conner never had more than 5 carries in his rookie year. Lev Bell got meaningful carries in his rookie year, but there was no established vet in front of him, and his YPC that year was a measly 3.5.
Twenty-Four Eighty-Four
Footballguy
Ohhhhhhhh. Another twist. His ADP shall rise a bit after falling.
steelers1080
Footballguy
I'm a diehard Steelers fan, but I'm terrified of drafting James Conner. I just have 0 clue what his usage is going to be, and it seems like the Steelers don't know either. Ideally they'd like to keep him fresh and prevent injury, but he's the type of back that bruises a defense and gets better and better as the game goes on. If they limit him to 12 carries a game, he might not be as dominant as he was because he hasn't had a chance to wear the opponent down. My hope is that he's able to get 20 touches a game and stay healthy, if he can do that I foresee him being a top 6 fantasy RB. But I wouldn't be surprised if he handles half the load, and Snell and Samuels combine for the other half of the load. This would make Conner closer to a top tier RB2 for me.
brewer
Footballguy
I just don't see Snell getting a big percentage of this pie due to past usage of RBs in their rookie seasons. The only outlier is Lev Bell(I even went back farther than the following list but it is more of the same). The Steelers just don't seem to trust rookie running backs in pass protection.
Steelers drafted RB history - year - player - round - production
- 2019 Benny Snell - Round 4
- 2018 Jaylen Samuels - Round 5 - 56 carries, 26 catches(many due to the Conner injury)
- 2017 James Conner - Round 3 - 32 carries
- 2013 Lev Bell - Round 2 - 244 carries, 45 catches
- 2012 Chris Rainey - Round 5 - 26 carries, 14 catches
- 2011 Baron Batch - Round 7 - 25 carries, 4 catches
- 2010 Jon Dwyer - Round 6 - 9 carries
- 2009 Frank Summers - Round 5 - 0
- 2008 Rashard Mendenhall - Round 1 - 19 carries, 2 catches(shoulder injury)
streamkeeper
Footballguy
I am drafting Conner with confidence. Almost every single RB in the league will deal with some kind of committee, but they won't have Conner's OL. Plus I just really like this kid's heart.
