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RB Jamaal Williams, NO (1 Viewer)
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BigTex
Don't mess with Texas
GEZ, I didn't see that. It cut to a commercial after he was on the ground......good to know.
Thanks!
Tex
leave a whisper
Footballguy
sign D Williams / R Mathews / J Stark ?..... trade for D Lewis ?........... they are a twisted ankle away from having no one
Interseptopus
Footballguy
Williams getting an MRI. Sprained knee. Likely out this week...
Football Jones
Footballguy
I was holding my breath. Williams has a ton of potential in that offense.
A thunder guy who compliments their air attack. Does everything well & wears defenses down.
Looking forward to seeing what Williams can do.
A thunder guy who compliments their air attack. Does everything well & wears defenses down.
Looking forward to seeing what Williams can do.
Football Jones
Footballguy
Williams is also a decent pass-catcher & a very good pass protector.
You never want to see anybody get hurt, but it happens. This opens the door for Williams if Montgomery is out awhile. He's not a sure thing, but I like him in that offense. Very physical runner.
This won't be popular with the Jones guys, but I don't believe he's an NFL feature back. Without going into details on players, in short, my theory is you need specific traits if you're a smaller RB in today's NFL. It's the reason I wasn't high on Abdullah coming out. On the contrary, I like Cohen, especially in PPR. He's tiny, but has specific traits that offset his size.
It remains to be seen what Jones & Abdullah will do. Sure, they could prove me wrong, but I've been successful with this approach.
You never want to see anybody get hurt, but it happens. This opens the door for Williams if Montgomery is out awhile. He's not a sure thing, but I like him in that offense. Very physical runner.
This won't be popular with the Jones guys, but I don't believe he's an NFL feature back. Without going into details on players, in short, my theory is you need specific traits if you're a smaller RB in today's NFL. It's the reason I wasn't high on Abdullah coming out. On the contrary, I like Cohen, especially in PPR. He's tiny, but has specific traits that offset his size.
It remains to be seen what Jones & Abdullah will do. Sure, they could prove me wrong, but I've been successful with this approach.
does he have any vision? he looked awfully plodding last night in his limited work.
Football Jones
Footballguy
See post below.
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Football Jones
Footballguy
I like the total package. I didn't notice anything negative about his vision in college. Williams has pretty decent burst, as well.
He's one of those guys that does everything well & I think he's a perfect fit in their offense. They could use some thunder.
Tough, physical runner who can wear you down, but he's not a plodder. Very good pass pro & a better receiver than he gets credit for.
He's not a sure thing, but I like Williams to eventually emerge as their starting RB at some point (this season or next). That said, it's one of the more difficult backfields to project.
Football Jones
Footballguy
For those not familiar with Williams, here's a highlight package.
I realize highlights can be deceiving, but it shows he's got some burst to go along with his physical running style.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hsQeQ9DS-bo&t=86s
I realize highlights can be deceiving, but it shows he's got some burst to go along with his physical running style.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hsQeQ9DS-bo&t=86s
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rafbennett
Footballguy
glad i checked this topic before i dropped him for d'onta foreman. right move to keep while this pans out?
Football Jones
Footballguy
I'd definitely keep Williams, but then again, I happen to be fairly high on him.
I'm assuming you're referring to redraft, in which case, it's looking like Williams could get an opportunity before Foreman. At least what we know today.
Don't Noonan
Footballguy
Thanks for the info. I will hold on Williams until we know the extent of his injury.
Alex P Keaton
Footballguy
Aznflyer14
Footballguy
Foreman > Williams... Both players are back up to the players who have never proven on staying healthy (Lamar can't produce if getting more than 15 carries and Ty have not had experience a heavy dose of carries dating back to his college days at Stanford). The only reason I like Foreman is his coach's commitment in run-heavy offense. Williams has opportunity to be productive in one of top offensive teams especially red-zone opportunity. Alas, he got hurt when given an opportunity last night (does anyone think a wet and sloppy field was culprit?).
kittenmittens
Footballguy
I think Jones actually has decent size himself, he's short but compact. 5'9" 208 for Jones and 6' 212 for Williams. Jones might actually be "bigger" from a durability sense and I don't think he is a small back even though he may have some small back skills. Montgomery is actually listed at 6' 216... odd that he is listed as bigger than Williams, he doesn't look it.
From what I saw, they looked pretty comparable as runners. We didn't get a long look at Williams though and he didn't have many runs that were well blocked so it's hard to tell much from that. I did notice that the Packers didn't let a situation occur where Jones could have missed a block leading to Rodgers getting hit... If Jones pass blocked at all it was a bootleg away from him, even when Hundley was in.
The one to own is the one who is getting the most volume. This is a mess like the Seattle backfield. I'd try to own them all if I had the roster spots and see who shakes out.
From what I saw, they looked pretty comparable as runners. We didn't get a long look at Williams though and he didn't have many runs that were well blocked so it's hard to tell much from that. I did notice that the Packers didn't let a situation occur where Jones could have missed a block leading to Rodgers getting hit... If Jones pass blocked at all it was a bootleg away from him, even when Hundley was in.
The one to own is the one who is getting the most volume. This is a mess like the Seattle backfield. I'd try to own them all if I had the roster spots and see who shakes out.
Football Jones
Footballguy
Williams is a much more physical runner & much stronger than Jones. It's why I have some different indicators applied to Jones' profile & why I believe he needs to have specific traits as a smaller RB to succeed.
The Green Bay backfield is very interesting from a dynasty perspective. Lots of people are high on Jones & I can appreciate that, but I don't believe he's an NFL feature back. Not sure Williams is either, although, I like his overall package.
As always, time will tell on these guys.
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Football Jones
Footballguy
Foreman is a good pickup, as well. It wouldn't be a huge surprise if he took the job from Miller.
I'd roster both Williams & Foreman if possible.
Football Jones
Footballguy
If Williams is fully healthy, I'd be shocked if he doesn't get the start & receive the vast majority of snaps. Touches are a little more difficult to predict, but I suspect Jones will at least get a few. Hard to say how many touches either one will get, though.
If Williams isn't 100%, & only they would know that because he's not on the injury report, then all bets are off & it should be more of a split.
If Williams isn't 100%, & only they would know that because he's not on the injury report, then all bets are off & it should be more of a split.
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Is anyone starting him? With Sean Lee out, I want to, but I can't justify it with my other options. Won't be surprised if I regret leaving him on the bench, but would have so much regret if he put up a dud and like 5 guys from my bench outscored him. Will still be very interested in watching him get his shot. He's got true 3 down workhorse potential.
Football Jones
Footballguy
It's fairly risky until we see more, but like always, it depends on your other options.
Yeah, I've got some very solid options so I can't justify the risk, but I'm pretty sure he'll be, at a minimum, getting any goal line opps and against this Sean Lee-less defense, that's a pretty ripe fantasy matchup. But without knowing the split and only seeing a handful of preseason and in-season carries (which seems to be enough for people to say Jones is clearly better than him
- they are both good, IMO, but with Williams' game being better for a 3 down role) it would be crazy to start him over known commodities with know roles. But I'm still curious if anyone is starting him due to the plus matchup.If the Pack get a down from the 1, my money is on Ripkowski pounding it in, over any of the running backs.Yeah, I've got some very solid options so I can't justify the risk, but I'm pretty sure he'll be, at a minimum, getting any goal line opps and against this Sean Lee-less defense, that's a pretty ripe fantasy matchup. But without knowing the split and only seeing a handful of preseason and in-season carries (which seems to be enough for people to say Jones is clearly better than him
Weebs210
Footballguy
Sarlakticacid
Footballguy
Are their tackles playing?
Flint Fireballs!
Footballguy
Because I have Aaron Jones in a dynasty league, I just grabbed Jamaal Williams. One thing I've noticed about him, statistically speaking, is that he's had more success receiving than running, and that dates back to the preseason. Everything I read indicated that his surest route to success was to run it between the tackles, and he did punch one in from the 1 yard line last week. Can anyone elaborate on this dichotomy?
ChuckLiddell
Footballguy
Cant speak to the dichotomy, other than to say...great SAT word! I do think Williams is worth a dynasty hold though. Jones flashed on a few runs, but apparently blew an assignment last week, and didnt put up any numbers. Another week or two like that, and Williams may find himself in position to earn more carries. If he does well with them, he could leapfrog his way back into a role.
Football Jones
Footballguy
If not for the knee injury Williams suffered after Montgomery hurt his ribs (in the same game), Jones may never have gotten his chance.
Jones has looked good at times, but I like Williams & you can't count him out long-term. The feature back job for next season is yet to be determined. I kinda doubt they draft a RB on day 1 or 2.
The coming weeks could be telling.
Jones has looked good at times, but I like Williams & you can't count him out long-term. The feature back job for next season is yet to be determined. I kinda doubt they draft a RB on day 1 or 2.
The coming weeks could be telling.
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Twenty-Four Eighty-Four
Footballguy
Interseptopus
Footballguy
might want to check out Mays
Williams has looked so bad thus far this season, I wouldn' be surprised if Mays gets more work than Williams next week if ty and Jones are both out
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Bojang0301
Omar4Heisman
Garbage. Mays will be the guy if Jones and TyMont are out extended periods.
Football Jones
Footballguy
I only saw a few of Williams' touches, but he looked good & was noticeably more aggressive.
It finally seems like he's starting to play loose (way too tight earlier in the season).
I'm anxious to see all his touches this week.
Don't forget about this kid in your dynasty leagues.
It finally seems like he's starting to play loose (way too tight earlier in the season).
I'm anxious to see all his touches this week.
Don't forget about this kid in your dynasty leagues.
Dr. Dan said:
Total carries in first 8 games: 11Hard to say a rookie has looked bad when he hasn't really played. He did something right because he was taking some first team snaps in training camp. Yesterday he was playing against stacked boxes in obvious running situations and he kept moving the chains, but you're not going to average 5 ypc like that unless the defense makes a big mistake.
Now that's not to say Mays can't be good, but it's a little early to be shoveling dirt on Williams. Both Matt Waldman and the Packers liked him more than Aaron Jones out of college, so he showed enough to them to warrant at least a little patience from fantasy owners. With Rodgers hurt, his scoring opportunities will be limited and more men will be in the box, so it's hard to recommend blowing a lot of FAAB on him this week, but we're going into week 11... if people still have FAAB left, not sure something more appealing is going to come by. Then again, we need to hear about Ty's ribs and the severity of Jones' MCL sprain. I wouldn't bother for a 1 week rental or a RBBC if Ty will be back this week.
ThanosX
Footballguy
I agree. While his YPC yesterday was low, I thought he looked pretty good grinding for those yards. He looked aggressive, and ran violently. I think he's the top pickup this week.
NeverEnough
Footballguy
So Mays won't get any touches?
Interseptopus
Footballguy
I disagree about Williams but at this point no GB rb is going to be the savior. I liked Williams coming out of college but he hasn't been that same player so far. those that want to comment on his lack of carries before this last week, and how its too early to tell, you didn't watch those carries apparently or the preseason. guy has been a lump on a log since day 1. would be nice if he played to his potential, but imo he's JAG
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Todem
Footballguy
Picked him up for nothing 2 weeks ago on the wire in my dynasty.
Time to give him a start this week (along with McCoy and Drake) gotta bench Miller with Deshaun out for the year. Texans are dead meat now on offense.
He ran very hard this past weekend and hey.....he will get most of the touches this week. Worth a shot.
Time to give him a start this week (along with McCoy and Drake) gotta bench Miller with Deshaun out for the year. Texans are dead meat now on offense.
He ran very hard this past weekend and hey.....he will get most of the touches this week. Worth a shot.
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fred_1_15301
Footballguy
How is he as a pass catcher? Is he a decent PPR candidate?
From what I've read, he's quite capable but was not utilized as a pass catcher in college. His PPR upside will be determined by Ty Montgomery's availability. I haven't seen anything definitive about his aggravation of the rib injury. It wouldn't shock me if he plays this week, thus limiting Williams.
Football Jones
Footballguy
He's a decent all-around receiver. Nothing special, but certainly not bad.
Williams is somebody I was fairly high on coming out, but he had been playing so tight. Didn't even look like the guy I scouted at BYU.
The few plays I saw of Williams last week showed a big difference. Like night & day. The one play where he got hit behind the LOS & powered through tacklers for a 1st down was awesome. I don't believe any other current Green Bay RB could've done that.
When playing loose & aggressive, Williams is powerful & fairly dynamic. I'm curious to see if he can keep it going & show even more.
Williams has the talent to be a feature back, IMO. It just depends on if he can put everything together.
