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2 minutes ago, tommyboy said:

there was a school teacher that said quote: "pray only Trumptards died"  then deleted her twitter account but screenshots last a while

 

https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2017/10/02/vile-teacher-prays-only-trumptards-died-in-las-vegas-shooting-and-other-horrible-tweets/

Oh my

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Just now, tommyboy said:

there was a school teacher that said quote: "pray only Trumptards died"  then deleted her twitter account but screenshots last a while

 

https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2017/10/02/vile-teacher-prays-only-trumptards-died-in-las-vegas-shooting-and-other-horrible-tweets/

I'm sure there are a lot of people thinking the same thing, sadly/disgustingly. I don't have any sympathy for those that go public and face consequences for saying crap like that.

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5 minutes ago, tommyboy said:

there was a school teacher that said quote: "pray only Trumptards died"  then deleted her twitter account but screenshots last a while

 

https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2017/10/02/vile-teacher-prays-only-trumptards-died-in-las-vegas-shooting-and-other-horrible-tweets/

Should be removed from teaching soon. Should have her teaching license revoked as well. She's only fit to be a janitor scrubbing toilets in a prison. Social media taking down a handful of complete wackos. :thumbup:

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Just now, Billy Bats said:

59 murdered, 527 injured, many still in critical conditionz 

 

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it's all shocking, but I didn't know there were that many injured. did he fire that many rounds, or were some of these from trying to escape and getting hurt by trampling, etc?

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11 minutes ago, lod001 said:

Should be removed from teaching soon. Should have her teaching license revoked as well. She's only fit to be a janitor scrubbing toilets in a prison. Social media taking down a handful of complete wackos. :thumbup:

Think it's a troll job.  No independent sources confirming it.

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Just now, El Floppo said:

:shock:

it's all shocking, but I didn't know there were that many injured. did he fire that many rounds, or were some of these from trying to escape and getting hurt by trampling, etc?

Was shocked as well, they didn’t specify whether they were all gunshot victims. I would think that includes anyone injured during the event. 

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9 minutes ago, El Floppo said:

:shock:

it's all shocking, but I didn't know there were that many injured. did he fire that many rounds, or were some of these from trying to escape and getting hurt by trampling, etc?

Yes some got hurt trying to get away

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11 minutes ago, Billy Bats said:

Was shocked as well, they didn’t specify whether they were all gunshot victims. I would think that includes anyone injured during the event. 

They said earlier some of the people were hit by cars and were victims of just panicking and running.

They showed a wrought iron fence that was just bent in pieces because people were scambling to get away and the crush of their bodies did it.

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34 minutes ago, El Floppo said:

I'm sure there are a lot of people thinking the same thing, sadly/disgustingly. I don't have any sympathy for those that go public and face consequences for saying crap like that.

It does seem like every event has some social media induced firing of a media person and an educator.  

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So I'm staying off new networks/sites because I just can't handle the videos these days.  Too traumatic.  Could someone just fill me in on:

Was the gunman killed, or caught?  In the hotel room, or elsewhere?

Any obvious motive, either stated by gunman or otherwise?

 

Again, I'm sure these seem like silly questions but I just don't have the stomach right now to dig around and appreciate the kind people here filling me in.  TIA.

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Just now, WhatDoIKnow said:

The gunman killed himself in his room.  Possibly just before law enforcement blew up the door to get in.

No obvious motives.  Either there really aren't any or some people aren't talking yet.

He doesn't seem to check many boxes for someone that would do something like this.  No mental issues that we know of.  Older, seemed to have money, etc.

Thanks, not sure why those are the questions standing out to me, but I appreciate it.

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30 minutes ago, WhatDoIKnow said:

The gunman killed himself in his room.  Possibly just before law enforcement blew up the door to get in.

No obvious motives.  Either there really aren't any or some people aren't talking yet.

He doesn't seem to check many boxes for someone that would do something like this.  No mental issues that we know of.  Older, seemed to have money, etc.

Was he married? Have any kids? 

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1 hour ago, El Floppo said:
1 hour ago, Billy Bats said:

59 murdered, 527 injured, many still in critical conditionz 

 

:shock:

it's all shocking, but I didn't know there were that many injured. did he fire that many rounds, or were some of these from trying to escape and getting hurt by trampling, etc?

Pretty sure a few of these might have been bullets going through 2 or more people since many were standing so close together

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54 minutes ago, WhatDoIKnow said:

I find it odd that we have one recent picture of this guy with his eyes closed and one picture of him that looks like it could be from 20 years ago.  Like he doesn't have much of a social media footprint.

He's a 64-year-old divorced guy with tons of money.  I don't think he's probably active on Facebook.  

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1 minute ago, TripItUp said:

The lack of motive is perplexing, perhaps just a straight up psychopath? :shrug:

Makes me think he's done things before.  Maybe never caught?  Something changed in his life to make him do all this though.  There must be

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This was probably inevitable. Thankfully, so is his the fact that he's going to die

 

http://politicer.com/pat-robertson-says-vegas-terror-god-punishement-disrespecting-trump-2/
 

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On “The 700 Club” today, televangelist Pat Robertson linked last night’s mass shooting in Las Vegas to a disrespect for President Trump, the national anthem and God.

“Violence in the streets, ladies and gentlemen. Why is it happening?” he asked. “The fact that we have disrespect for authority; there is profound disrespect for our president, all across this nation they say terrible things about him. It’s in the news, it’s in other places. There is disrespect now for our national anthem, disrespect for our veterans, disrespect for the institutions of our government, disrespect for the court system. All the way up and down the line, disrespect.”

 

 

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5 hours ago, Wingnut said:

Not sure if this was posted, but here's a view of a suite at Mandalay Bay. Lots of windows.

https://i.imgur.com/K20IQEQ.jpg

That's the one.  

Will try to post my colleague's story sometime tonight if I can.  Legal community pitched in for him today after several of us convinced him to go the hell home.  To be honest, I don't think the gravity of what he went through has hit him.  

Also learned this afternoon than an even closer colleague/buddy of mine (in the sense that we socialize together quite often outside of just work stuff) was there on a date and was at the stage.  Had somebody shot and killed that was standing next to him.  He used his clothing to tie off gunshot wounds until EMTs came.  I'm sure I'll get his account too when he's back and willing to talk about it. 

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24 minutes ago, ffldrew said:

Pretty sure a few of these might have been bullets going through 2 or more people since many were standing so close together

Yeah.  Guy I referenced who was one of the injured said there was "tings" from bullets flying and ricocheting all around him.  

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1 hour ago, WhatDoIKnow said:

I find it odd that we have one recent picture of this guy with his eyes closed and one picture of him that looks like it could be from 20 years ago.  Like he doesn't have much of a social media footprint.

A lot of folks don't at all. Especially his age

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21 minutes ago, need2know said:

Makes me think he's done things before.  Maybe never caught?  Something changed in his life to make him do all this though.  There must be

That's what I'm wondering. His dad was a diagnosed psychopath, so maybe he inherited some traits that led to him being one, too.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.businessinsider.com/las-vegas-shooter-stephen-paddock-dad-fbi-ten-most-wanted-list-2017-10

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3 minutes ago, WhatDoIKnow said:

Lots of 70+ year olds on Facebook.  It's one of the reasons why FB isn't cool with the kids anymore.

I'm guessing the brother didn't exactly open the family album to provide pictures.

Facebook isn't cool anymore?!?!?

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3 hours ago, dickey moe said:

I think a lot of people are taking it seriously. The question is: what can be done to reduce (not prevent, because that would be impossible) these types of mass killings via firearms without infringing upon the natural rights of those who would choose to defend themselves with firearms.

natural rights to defend themselves               with firearms.

You lost me after themselves, 

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47 minutes ago, need2know said:

Makes me think he's done things before.  Maybe never caught?  Something changed in his life to make him do all this though.  There must be

Doesn't add up any which way. Sure many criminals escalate over time but not like this. 

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22 minutes ago, jplvr said:

If we had to make an either/or choice, I'm sure you'd be right, but I bet we'd agree more than you think. 

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dvLt8-Wf7r

I only leaned of this scary ### #### today. 

I think we're more aligned than you think I think we are. 

 

speaking of pretty sentences

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29 minutes ago, leftcoastguy7 said:

It took 72 minutes from the time of the first 911 call until they broke down this guy's hotel room door.

Seems like a lifetime. I wonder why they couldn't get there sooner. 

Got to be kidding me.

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35 minutes ago, leftcoastguy7 said:

It took 72 minutes from the time of the first 911 call until they broke down this guy's hotel room door.

Seems like a lifetime. I wonder why they couldn't get there sooner. 

If you listen to the dispatch call - http://www.broadcastify.com/news/21   - a Mandalay security officer got there and was shot early in the proceedings. And an officer reported in from the 32 floor pretty quickly(11:30 into the dispatch)/ that he knew where to go - but it took a long time for SWAT to arrive and he was waiting in stairwell. Also sounded like confusion as to what floor to go to with reports from the outside mentioning 15th floor and someone shouts out 50 or 60th floor(not sure it's possible at Mandalay). When they got there they also had to clear the floor for booby traps and carefully enter room

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4 hours ago, ffldrew said:

If you listen to the dispatch call - http://www.broadcastify.com/news/21   - a Mandalay security officer got there and was shot early in the proceedings. And an officer reported in from the 32 floor pretty quickly(11:30 into the dispatch)/ that he knew where to go - but it took a long time for SWAT to arrive and he was waiting in stairwell. Also sounded like confusion as to what floor to go to with reports from the outside mentioning 15th floor and someone shouts out 50 or 60th floor(not sure it's possible at Mandalay). When they got there they also had to clear the floor for booby traps and carefully enter room

Reports were saying the guy was shooting for ten minutes into the crowd. So for the next 62 minutes he just hung around?

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