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RB Austin Ekeler, WAS (1 Viewer)
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ShamrockPride
Footballguy
Wait a minute, just so I am clear here....aggravate means he would have already been nursing said injury coming into the game? Didn't the Chargers just do this a couple weeks ago with Gordon, they not learn their lesson?
Twenty-Four Eighty-Four
Footballguy
I'm also quite certain he aggravated it again on special teams near the end of the game.
Angry spiders
Footballguy
NYRAGE
Footballguy
It was on the onside kick near the end of the game. So much for not wanting to wear him down. 17 offensive touches plus special teams before a big Thursday division game.
Twenty-Four Eighty-Four
Footballguy
Angry spiders
Footballguy
Another stupid move by these coaches....i get it....onside kick is important....but you are running out of rb bodies
Angry spiders
Footballguy
Twenty-Four Eighty-Four
Footballguy
At least we should know if we should play Jackson or not. As an owner of all 3, someone being ruled out is great.
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rockaction
Footballguy
No.
Sorry for the terseness, but this is an eye test after rostering Ekeler for two straight years.
Faust
MVP
rockaction
Footballguy
Cool. And your posts should prompt when a question is posed or opinion asserted as likely fact. I was more apologizing for the one-word answer than the subsequent eye test, which is also really, really subjective and maybe not much help to others who don't know me or know why I'd say that.
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Ilov80s
Footballguy
I have to imagine that ADP is rising fastAs cheap as they come with top 10 RB upside in the event Gordon holds out and/or gets injured. He’s surprisingly young too (23 or 24 I believe).
FreeBaGeL
Footballguy
In the 3 games that Melvin Gordon missed and Ekeler carried the load...
52 touches
3.2 yards per carry
6.3 yards per reception
That Titans game in London, the entire offense was bad. They got 2 long bomb TD's, one 75 yarder where the Titans lost track of Tyrell Williams, and one 55 yarder where Rivers just heaved up a bomb to Mike Williams on a free play(IIRC)
The Bengals game he had 15-66(4.4ypc) and a TD, with 2-28(14ypr).
The Steelers game is the only game I'd say Ekeler was bad in, and Justin Jackson had more success when they worked him in during the 2nd half.
I like Ekeler a ton, but he's not getting Gordon's workload. In the 11 games they both played, Gordon saw 210 touches, versus 93 for Ekeler. That is roughly a 70-30 split. I would expect Ekeler/Jackson to be closer to about 60-40, but I would agree Ekeler is the back to own, and its possible they tailor the offense more to his skill set, as in slightly more pass heavy, which might actually benefit the offense in general.
bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
woudlnt surprise me at all if they keep ekeler in the cop role ....slightly expanded and give Justin Jackson the early down and goalline looks....could be some ride the hot hand too.....messy without melvin imo....
Tau837
Footballguy
FWIW, PFF grades in 5 categories, and Ekeler's grades were higher than Jackson's in all 5 last season:
- Overall: Ekeler 83.4, Gordon 83.1, Jackson 72.6
- Passing (receiving): Ekeler 84.6, Jackson 70.2, Gordon 60.6
- Pass blocking: Ekeler 57.9, Gordon 48.1, Jackson 27.4
- Running: Gordon 88.7, Ekeler 80.8, Jackson 75.1
- Run blocking: Gordon 64.5, Ekeler 64.4, Jackson 59.6
Blue Thunder
Footballguy
I really expect to see Detrez Newsome worked into the rotation as well. He's got some lead-back type of qualities. Also, Jeremy Cox will probably see some short yardage and goal line work. I'd expect to see a split along these lines.
Ekeler 25 - 40%
Jackson 25 - 40%
Newsome 15 - 25%
Cox 5 - 10%
I think that this would work well IRL as it would keep everyone relatively fresh, but it wouldn't be that great for fantasy football though.
Ekeler 25 - 40%
Jackson 25 - 40%
Newsome 15 - 25%
Cox 5 - 10%
I think that this would work well IRL as it would keep everyone relatively fresh, but it wouldn't be that great for fantasy football though.
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tkrull
Footballguy
Blue Thunder
Footballguy
Fair point. I do think that you could still arrive at something close to these percentages if one or two of them ever gets dinged up during the year.
I think it also would depend on just how high they are on Jeremy Cox. I could just as easily see him on the practice squad as on the final 53.
The main point I'm trying to make is that there is more to the Chargers RB corp than just Ekeler and Jackson and that I could easily see the RB work being split more evenly than some people are expecting.
I think it also would depend on just how high they are on Jeremy Cox. I could just as easily see him on the practice squad as on the final 53.
The main point I'm trying to make is that there is more to the Chargers RB corp than just Ekeler and Jackson and that I could easily see the RB work being split more evenly than some people are expecting.
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Tau837
Footballguy
Agreed. Not only that, there is no guarantee the Chargers keep more than 4 RBs, including FB Watt, on their final roster. I expect Ekeler, Jackson, and Newsome would make it if Gordon is still holding out, but Cox is by no means a lock for the roster in that scenario.
Tau837
Footballguy
If all of these guys are healthy and Gordon is holding out, there is no way Ekeler gets just 25% of the RB touches and also no way that Ekeler and Jackson combine for just 50%.
I agree that Newsome would get some work if Gordon holds out. But if Ekeler, Jackson, and Newsome are all healthy and Gordon is out, I think it looks more like this:
- Ekeler - 60%
- Jackson - 35%
- Newsome - 5%
Blue Thunder
Footballguy
I agree. You took the low end of my ranges for both Ekeler and Jackson, which won't happen. I was trying to offer ranges that would add up to 100%. You're probably right about not counting on much from Cox.
I don't think we're too far apart, but I think 60% might be a little high for Ekeler. If I had to pick a specific number, barring any injuries, I would predict
Ekeler - 50%
Jackson - 35%
Newsome - 15%
I think that Newsome will get some decent work in the 4th quarter of any blowouts as well as taking a series from Jackson every once in a while.
Any carries that Cox would get would be in a week (or two) that one of the other three guys is not playing due to being dinged up. Hopefully they all stay healthy all year, but I'm not sure how realistic that is. Ankle sprains tend to happen every once in a while.
I can, however, see a scenario where Jackson out-touches Ekeler if even if both remain healthy... IF Jackson turns into a stud - which is certainly possible. I do think it more likely that Ekeler will out-touch Jackson, although I expect it to be closer than a lot of people think.
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ponchsox
Footballguy
https://mobile.twitter.com/gmanzano24/status/1168250895668170752?s=21
Added: "We're very happy with Austin (Ekeler) as an every down back." He'll split carries with Justin Jackson
Added: "We're very happy with Austin (Ekeler) as an every down back." He'll split carries with Justin Jackson
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VikingFrog
Footballguy
I own Ekeler everywhere, but due to short benches don’t own Jackson many places.
Im hopeful this while situation is clearer than mud after week 1.
Dinsy Ejotuz
Footballguy
Top-10 RB this year if he stays healthy.
VikingFrog
Footballguy
Bold statement. I owned him last year and I remember he had some good games but got shut down a few games as well (maybe the London game? where the whole offense was supposed to go through him)
I would love your statement if accurate. Own him everywhere.
Mindofigor
Footballguy
Melvin can still accept less $ and sign with Chargers so Ekler can be the man for a handful of games only.
rockaction
Footballguy
LA just informed Gordon publicly that they would no longer talk about a contract extension until after the season. Oof.
ShamrockPride
Footballguy
Would be nice but I have my doubts. Looks great as a COP, as Justwinbaby pointed out with the numbers. But seriously struggled when he got the frontman role last year. The crazy thing was most weeks last season, you could use the duo, him and Gordon together and truck thru most other teams in fantasy.
rockaction
Footballguy
I've rostered him two straight years. Doesn't seem to be the type of RB that can be The Man.
Dinsy Ejotuz
Footballguy
This starter/not split stuff is random nonsense IMO. YPC is a junk stat until basically forever in terms of # of carries.
Twenty-Four Eighty-Four
Footballguy
You can extend players during the season, except players in the franchise tag. The Chargers are choosing not to engage in contract talks with Melvin Gordon.
