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sho nuff
Footballguy
Definitely...was already questioning with the pinky though.
Hell...Ive gotten this far with the mash unit and trade/waiver wire team. Why not another week.
Ridley, Jones and Jacobs are the only guys I drafted that I still play. Rest of the team is the 2 acquired in a big trade (Rodgers and Chubb). My revolving door at TE (currently Goedert). Then the revolving door at WR2 and flex when I don't have Jones. (Cooks some, Curtis Samuel, Landry now...had Gaskin for a whole week before losing him for 2 weeks with Covid). Hell...even just picked up Kittle just in case I make it til next week and he is able to make it back.
Now...all that said...Im up against a stacked team (who is only less stacked because he is who I acquired Chubb from). He drafted well and made some nice trades...he didn't draft Chubb but made a move for him...but still...seeing Henry, Adams, and Mahomes on his team does not give me a warm fuzzy feeling for my chances.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
To elaborate, Fournette fell so out of favor with Ariens that he was a healthy scratch. Meanwhile McCoy cane in & looked nothing short of spectacular for a couple of touches. Good burst, and protected Brady.
I think Fournette will play. I also think there’s a chance McCoy might outscore him. Wild speculation, but McCoy looked damn good last game & Fournette ain’t looked good for weeks.
I could be wrong. Just reading the tea leaves.
I think Fournette will play. I also think there’s a chance McCoy might outscore him. Wild speculation, but McCoy looked damn good last game & Fournette ain’t looked good for weeks.
I could be wrong. Just reading the tea leaves.
Twenty-Four Eighty-Four
Footballguy
I don't have this guy on any of my rosters, I just needed to get out of the other thread asking me not to assume ownership of any of these players. Thanks for having me.
any new reporting? if he was a close contact he would have been activated by now so i guess i have to assume he has covid. this week he plays on saturday so saturday would be 10 days from when he was put on the list... but hard to imagine he is going to be active.
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Fear The Turtle
Footballguy
sho nuff
Footballguy
Yeah wondering about both he and Gaskin this week. Thought 2 weeks ago I was going into the playoffs with plenty of depth.
Picking up Pollard helped but Id much rather have Jones or Gaskin out there in those matchups (plus going against Fournette team and would love to have him have to decide on his flex)
Picking up Pollard helped but Id much rather have Jones or Gaskin out there in those matchups (plus going against Fournette team and would love to have him have to decide on his flex)
sho nuff
Footballguy
Looks like he may be sticking to the covid list through this game. Yippee...great matchup will be missed and giving my opponent Fournette another week.
And maybe enough uncertainty to keep me ftom dropping til late too as I dont want him picked up by my opponent and then getting him back
Ronald Jones II (reserve/COVID-19) unlikely to play Week 16 vs. Lions
And maybe enough uncertainty to keep me ftom dropping til late too as I dont want him picked up by my opponent and then getting him back
Ronald Jones II (reserve/COVID-19) unlikely to play Week 16 vs. Lions
Stompin' Tom Connors
Footballguy
Agree with this take.sho nuff said:
Is the earliest we'll know for sure Sat? Or if he tests negative on Friday could he be cleared to play?
This is a weird weekend with games Fri, Sat, and Sun so a lot of moving pieces -- would be good to know when we think we'll have perfect clarity on this.
Biabreakable
Footballguy
Interesting what Arians said about Fournette and Jones being their starters even after acquiring Bernard.
From what I recall Arians prefers veteran RB over rookies and he wants a RB to do everything rather than using specialists. Maybe that is not set in stone though. I remember Andre Ellington getting a chance to be that guy before being replaced by David Johnson. Ellington couldnt stay healthy though and Johnson just a better overall RB.
I think Brady has influence on their decision to pursue White and then Bernard and that he will have a role in the offense. I think he could be their feature RB if they gave him the opportunity to. Not sure they will though.
From what I recall Arians prefers veteran RB over rookies and he wants a RB to do everything rather than using specialists. Maybe that is not set in stone though. I remember Andre Ellington getting a chance to be that guy before being replaced by David Johnson. Ellington couldnt stay healthy though and Johnson just a better overall RB.
I think Brady has influence on their decision to pursue White and then Bernard and that he will have a role in the offense. I think he could be their feature RB if they gave him the opportunity to. Not sure they will though.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
I agree with the 1st half of this. he should have stand-alone flex or emergency RB viability as their receiving back. I don’t think either Fournette or Jones showed enough in the passing game for the Bucs to be confident using either in that role.
I agree with the 2nd half, but I believe that would be very unlikely. Both Jones & LF would have to get hurt. And even then they might be more likely to go with a Vaughn/Bernard RBBC.
I agree Bernard has the ability - we saw it in Cinci in brief flashes.
Biabreakable
Footballguy
Yeah Bernard is a player I really like but he just hasn't gotten the opportunity and now his career is closer to the end than its beginning.
It's not quite DeAngelo William's like annoying to me but I have experienced frustration with this and Hue Jackson.
nittanylion
Footballguy
Sorry to continue the hijack, but I'm right up there on the Board of Directors of the Giovani Bernard fan club.
A huge WFTskins fan, I prayed to all that is holy when Jay Gruden took the helm of the WFT, that Gio was going to be acquired and featured. Alas, no...
...I think there is very much a path to Gio being the nominal starter and committee leader in TB if things break right. I had no idea until recently that Gio and James White were apparently HS teammates and buddies, and that White advised Brady to have the Bucs acquire him when White apparently made the decision to stay in NE. He's going to bring the warrior mentality into Training Camp and force everyone in the RB room to work their butts of and compete.I can absolutely see Brady falling in love with the guy. Sure hope it works out before age catches up to him.
A huge WFTskins fan, I prayed to all that is holy when Jay Gruden took the helm of the WFT, that Gio was going to be acquired and featured. Alas, no...
...I think there is very much a path to Gio being the nominal starter and committee leader in TB if things break right. I had no idea until recently that Gio and James White were apparently HS teammates and buddies, and that White advised Brady to have the Bucs acquire him when White apparently made the decision to stay in NE. He's going to bring the warrior mentality into Training Camp and force everyone in the RB room to work their butts of and compete.I can absolutely see Brady falling in love with the guy. Sure hope it works out before age catches up to him.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
TB run/pass ratio last year was 37.1/62.9 - only PIT and JAX ran the ball less.
But they were 11th in RB receptions, 14th in rushing yards; 13th in TDs. Overall 16th in FF pts scored by RBs. It’s such an even split though - Jones was the better runner, Fournette the better receiver, Gio will eat into both - really hard to be excited about drafting any of them. It’s like New England lite down there. Patriots are always top ten in RB FF pts - top three when they don’t have a TD vulture playing QB - but good luck figuring out whose week it is.
But they were 11th in RB receptions, 14th in rushing yards; 13th in TDs. Overall 16th in FF pts scored by RBs. It’s such an even split though - Jones was the better runner, Fournette the better receiver, Gio will eat into both - really hard to be excited about drafting any of them. It’s like New England lite down there. Patriots are always top ten in RB FF pts - top three when they don’t have a TD vulture playing QB - but good luck figuring out whose week it is.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
I get the optimism. If I owned Gio I'd be hoping for this too.
But I am very skeptical that there's a path to Gio being the featured RB or time-share leader for a team that very specifically brought him in to be a receiver out of the backfield.
Ronald Jones, love him or hate him, is arguably the best RB on the team. He was fantastic last year, and his only issue came with receiving. Fournette, for as amazing as he was in the playoffs, was not great until the playoffs. He also struggled with receiving. But he, too, is more than likely going to get more touches than Bernard so long as he's healthy. If he wasn't, they would have signed Bernard & let Lenny walk.
I believe Gio can carve out Flex-worthy production if he's indeed the new James White for Brady. He could see 4-7 receptions/game, plus 3-7 COP/breather back carries if both RoJo & Lenny need a blow. With those 7-14 touches/game, Gio will be flex-worthy, especially with a random TD tossed in here and there.
But IMO the only path to featured back duties is if both RoJo & Lenny go down, and then maybe. Right now it's a full blown committee - one messy enough that as a RoJo owner I prioritized going out & dealing for Chase Edmonds & CEH this offseason. I'm much happier with RoJo as my RB4 than my RB2 behind Carson. And I'd have done the same were I a Fournette owner as well.
I really like Bernard, too. I've rostered him more years than I can count. Dude runs hard, works hard & he's a fun guy to root for. I just don't see him taking over the committee, and even if both RoJo & Lenny go down, I'd expect a split between Bernard & Vaughn.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
I'm moving Johnson way up my board after seeing what he Bucs PR team is saying about him in non-contact drills.
ffmail4me
Footballguy
I know you are being funny, but I do think we might be sleeping on him a bit. He did look like a different RB last year compared to the year prior. And didn't he get banged up that gave Fournette the shot to come on strong at the end of the season and playoffs?
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
The Frankman
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rockaction
Footballguy
Surprised there isn't more chatter. This guy nuked my dynasty 2 RB hole with Javonte Williams sitting there on the bench. I don't think I have the luxury of ever playing this guy again as long as he's on Tampa Bay. Maybe they'll trade him to Baltimore? One can always hope.
Hankmoody
Footballguy
Not sure why it's so surprising, it's been a staple of a Tom Brady offense for, like, 16 years?
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
There's a reason I spent the offseason rebuilding, and RoJo as my RB2 was a big part of that.
Now he's my RB4 and I was really just hoping for a fast start so I could deal him.
This was not the fast start I had in mind. He'll be in purgatory for a game or two & Arians will get back to him, but I agree - it's tough to trust him.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
